kids, there were only 9 "tickets" available...law of averages says majority won't "win" tickets...this was test for feedback and to work out any problems with the system...the prizes were simply to get as many people as possible to test the system
So do we know 100% that only (9) people got "ticket confirmations", and those (9) are the prize winners? Or do those of us who didn't get "tickets" still have a crack at the prize drawing?
10C - please confirm. Thanks!
Osaka, Japan (2/21/95), San Diego (7/10/98), Las Vegas (10/22/00), San Diego (10/25/00), Las Vegas (6/6/03), Las Vegas (7/6/06), Los Angeles (7/9/06), VH1 Rock Honors (7/12/08), Ed Solo (7/8/11), Ed Solo (11/1/12), Los Angeles (11/23/13)
So do we know 100% that only (9) people got "ticket confirmations", and those (9) are the prize winners? Or do those of us who didn't get "tickets" still have a crack at the prize drawing?
Da kid entered Da PJ interplanterry tour got da email back no dice.Know its just a test but come real tour time Yikes not looking foward to reading Da hateraid from pissed off fans locked out.
Let's Go Yanks!
96)Randalls Island I,II
98)NJ,MSG I,II
00) Virginia Beach Jones Beach I,II,III Saratoga Springs Seattle I
03)Nassau Camden I MSG I,II NJ
04)Boston I,II Reading
05)Montreal Ottawa Toronto Borgata I,II Philly
06) Irving plaza Albany Hartford Camden I,II NJ I,II LA I,II Gorge I,II
07)Lolla
08)Roo Camden I,II MSG I,II Hartford Beacon
09)Chicago I,II Philly II,III,IV
10)Hartford Newark MSG I,II
11)PJ20 I,II
13)Wrigley Brooklyn I,II Hartford
14)Moline,milwaukee
15)Central Park
16)MSG I,II
17)Wrigley I,II 18)Wrigley I,II 22)MSG,Camden 24)MSG I,II 25)Hard Rock I,II
So do we know 100% that only (9) people got "ticket confirmations", and those (9) are the prize winners? Or do those of us who didn't get "tickets" still have a crack at the prize drawing?
10C - please confirm. Thanks!
Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
No prize and no 10c tickets drawn for the shows. :(
I'm assuming they are considering the "10c tickets" are actually the 9 prizes available for drawing?
Bristow, VA - 5.13.10
East Troy, WI - 9.3.11
East Troy, WI - 9.4.11
Atlanta, GA - 9.22.12
Las Vegas, NV - 10.31.12 (EV)
Las Vegas, NV - 11.1.12 (EV)
Chicago, IL - 7.19.13
Dallas, TX - 11.15.13
Oklahoma City, OK - 11.16.13
Seattle, WA - 12.6.13
Lincoln, NE - 10.9.14
Moline, IL - 10.17.14
St. Paul, MN - 10.19.14
Milwaukee, WI - 10.20.14
New York, NY - 5.1.16
New York, NY - 5.2.16
Boston, MA - 8.5.16
Boston, MA - 8.7.16
Chicago, IL - 8.20.16
0 for 9 here...thank goodness this is a much larger drawing scale than what will be at a regular show. However,if there's another PJ20 weekend there's going I be a lot of people wishing they could "F5" for 14 hours.
Edit: Upon reading a few other threads it seems as though only 9 people actually won tickets and those thee the prize winners so that explains why so many people were shut out...
And all this time I thought I was a super huge loser! Hahaha
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
-95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2 -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3 -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2 -19, EV Brussels
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
Q: How does the show priority selection factor in to the drawing?
A: For each show we will randomly draw members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
As it is now, you would not increase your chances, and you would be out as both shows would sell out to those who chose it as their #1 option
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
As it is now, you would not increase your chances, and you would be out as both shows would sell out to those who chose it as their #1 option
at MSG thats for sure
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
As it is now, you would not increase your chances, and you would be out as both shows would sell out to those who chose it as their #1 option
at MSG thats for sure
And likely many others, Boston, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Toronto- lets not sugar coat it
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
And likely many others, Boston, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Toronto- lets not sugar coat it
you just mention alot of places i would love to see the band
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
There's no other way to do it fairly. Why should you be ahead of someone else at a different show just because you entered the first show too?
Something I haven't seen mentioned (it probably has been) is the fact you can only have one #1 (obviously) will surely mean it is easier to get tickets to at least one show? In the past there were a number of people, perhaps the majority, scoring tickets to each and every show. We know that because they have talked about it here.
How many unique ticket purchasers have there been for each tour I wonder? People will be a lot more cautious about which shows they pick as their #1 so I think things will be a lot different next time around.
So do we know 100% that only (9) people got "ticket confirmations", and those (9) are the prize winners? Or do those of us who didn't get "tickets" still have a crack at the prize drawing?
Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random.
Still doesn't answer my question - let me see if I can make it clearer...(or perhaps I am a dummy!)
"Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered."
This doesn't elaborate on whether the 8 names were drawn from a "winning ticket list" OR from the entire pool of entries. It doesn't say "one name for each of the 8 shows WON" it says each of the "8 shows ENTERED". It doesn't specify whether the "winner" is a "ticket winner" or "prize winner". Does being selected for a "ticket" also mean the winner of a "prize"? Just trying to figure out if ticket selection was one process, and the drawing an entirely different process from ALL entries.
The common understanding here seems to be that the "ticket winners" were also the "prize winners", which I'm fine with, but I'm just trying to get some very specific clarification and wording that says that so we can all be in full understanding of how this system works, and provide accurate feedback.
THANKS!
Osaka, Japan (2/21/95), San Diego (7/10/98), Las Vegas (10/22/00), San Diego (10/25/00), Las Vegas (6/6/03), Las Vegas (7/6/06), Los Angeles (7/9/06), VH1 Rock Honors (7/12/08), Ed Solo (7/8/11), Ed Solo (11/1/12), Los Angeles (11/23/13)
So do we know 100% that only (9) people got "ticket confirmations", and those (9) are the prize winners? Or do those of us who didn't get "tickets" still have a crack at the prize drawing?
Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random.
Still doesn't answer my question - let me see if I can make it clearer...(or perhaps I am a dummy!)
"Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered."
This doesn't elaborate on whether the 8 names were drawn from a "winning ticket list" OR from the entire pool of entries. It doesn't say "one name for each of the 8 shows WON" it says each of the "8 shows ENTERED". It doesn't specify whether the "winner" is a "ticket winner" or "prize winner". Does being selected for a "ticket" also mean the winner of a "prize"? Just trying to figure out if ticket selection was one process, and the drawing an entirely different process from ALL entries.
The common understanding here seems to be that the "ticket winners" were also the "prize winners", which I'm fine with, but I'm just trying to get some very specific clarification and wording that says that so we can all be in full understanding of how this system works, and provide accurate feedback.
THANKS!
the only thing i know is that only the winners get the congratulation mail,you won..
the rest got the Sorry, your name was not drawn for a pair of Ten Club tickets...etc
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sorry if this is asked before;
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
There's no other way to do it fairly. Why should you be ahead of someone else at a different show just because you entered the first show too?
Something I haven't seen mentioned (it probably has been) is the fact you can only have one #1 (obviously) will surely mean it is easier to get tickets to at least one show? In the past there were a number of people, perhaps the majority, scoring tickets to each and every show. We know that because they have talked about it here.
How many unique ticket purchasers have there been for each tour I wonder? People will be a lot more cautious about which shows they pick as their #1 so I think things will be a lot different next time around.
I suppose if they do bigger tours the tickets wouldnt be an issue ...... or on a 2:nd thought, after 100 shows in the US everybody do still do wanna se them in MSG.
-95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2 -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3 -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2 -19, EV Brussels
I don't think I've seen this suggested, but if they are going with the prioritized lottery system, what they have suggested is backward. The way it should be done:
1) Put everyone who's requested any tickets in a "hat" (hopefully, they aren't ACTUALLY doing this, but I have to be honest, I would not be surprised. )
2) Pick a name, give them their 1st pick, if that allotment's gone, give them their 2nd, so on and so forth until that person has been given a pair or has exhausted their requested shows. But only ONE pair and stop.
3) Once everyone has gone once, put anyone who has any of their priorities still left back in a hat and start picking again
4) Continue process until all tix are gone, or everyone's order has been gone through
The way they are suggesting now, if you pick NYC2 #1, you are unlikely to get NYC1 (or vice versa, just using NYC as an example), Boston, Hartford, or anywhere else with high demand. So, if you miss out on your #1, you are SoL because there are probably more folks than tix for each of those "popular" shows. They are putting all NYC1 Priority 1's in a hat, and if any are left over, those that missed their other first options and put this as #2 get put in a hat - well, that's not going to do you a whole lot of good if they're already gone to the folks that put it as their priority 1.
The way I've just suggested, if you get picked number 1,227, you still have a chance at your 2nd option b/c it doesn't matter if 50,000 people picked it as their 1st. It just matters that you got randomly selected before them. (But you don't get your 2nd priority if your 1st is available unless everyone's had a turn and it's still available - to those that didn't understand what I wrote and think I'm suggesting if you get picked first, you get all your shows. If that's you - read the suggestion again. If you still don't understand, please consult a 4th grader. It's basically a "draft" with random ordering. You only get 1 "pick" then everyone else gets a turn, then if anything's left, you get a 2nd draw).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I don't think I've seen this suggested, but if they are going with the prioritized lottery system, what they have suggested is backward. The way it should be done:
1) Put everyone who's requested any tickets in a "hat" (hopefully, they aren't ACTUALLY doing this, but I have to be honest, I would not be surprised. )
2) Pick a name, give them their 1st pick, if that allotment's gone, give them their 2nd, so on and so forth until that person has been given a pair or has exhausted their requested shows. But only ONE pair and stop.
3) Once everyone has gone once, put anyone who has any of their priorities still left back in a hat and start picking again
4) Continue process until all tix are gone, or everyone's order has been gone through
The way they are suggesting now, if you pick NYC2 #1, you are unlikely to get NYC1 (or vice versa, just using NYC as an example), Boston, Hartford, or anywhere else with high demand. So, if you miss out on your #1, you are SoL because there are probably more folks than tix for each of those "popular" shows. They are putting all NYC1 Priority 1's in a hat, and if any are left over, those that missed their other first options and put this as #2 get put in a hat - well, that's not going to do you a whole lot of good if they're already gone to the folks that put it as their priority 1.
The way I've just suggested, if you get picked number 1,227, you still have a chance at your 2nd option b/c it doesn't matter if 50,000 people picked it as their 1st. It just matters that you got randomly selected before them. (But you don't get your 2nd priority if your 1st is available unless everyone's had a turn and it's still available - to those that didn't understand what I wrote and think I'm suggesting if you get picked first, you get all your shows. If that's you - read the suggestion again. If you still don't understand, please consult a 4th grader. It's basically a "draft" with random ordering. You only get 1 "pick" then everyone else gets a turn, then if anything's left, you get a 2nd draw).
Sorry, 3rd grader here, what happens to people who can only afford to commit to one show? SOL in favor of those can afford multiples?
I don't think I've seen this suggested, but if they are going with the prioritized lottery system, what they have suggested is backward. The way it should be done:
1) Put everyone who's requested any tickets in a "hat" (hopefully, they aren't ACTUALLY doing this, but I have to be honest, I would not be surprised. )
2) Pick a name, give them their 1st pick, if that allotment's gone, give them their 2nd, so on and so forth until that person has been given a pair or has exhausted their requested shows. But only ONE pair and stop.
3) Once everyone has gone once, put anyone who has any of their priorities still left back in a hat and start picking again
4) Continue process until all tix are gone, or everyone's order has been gone through
The way they are suggesting now, if you pick NYC2 #1, you are unlikely to get NYC1 (or vice versa, just using NYC as an example), Boston, Hartford, or anywhere else with high demand. So, if you miss out on your #1, you are SoL because there are probably more folks than tix for each of those "popular" shows. They are putting all NYC1 Priority 1's in a hat, and if any are left over, those that missed their other first options and put this as #2 get put in a hat - well, that's not going to do you a whole lot of good if they're already gone to the folks that put it as their priority 1.
The way I've just suggested, if you get picked number 1,227, you still have a chance at your 2nd option b/c it doesn't matter if 50,000 people picked it as their 1st. It just matters that you got randomly selected before them. (But you don't get your 2nd priority if your 1st is available unless everyone's had a turn and it's still available - to those that didn't understand what I wrote and think I'm suggesting if you get picked first, you get all your shows. If that's you - read the suggestion again. If you still don't understand, please consult a 4th grader. It's basically a "draft" with random ordering. You only get 1 "pick" then everyone else gets a turn, then if anything's left, you get a 2nd draw).
Sorry, 3rd grader here, what happens to people who can only afford to commit to one show? SOL in favor of those can afford multiples?
Nope. You seem to understand perfectly. I didn't address that.
But, that's easy - I think that suggestions already been made by others. Just have a place where someone can say what the max number of shows they want and you are removed from the "pool" once you've maxed. That's why this works. It's an easy addition. Each go round, they can also verify if each person still wants another set before the proceed with the drawing.
No need to do complicated credits, if/then statements, etc. Easy is ALWAYS better.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
If that was the case, we would still be using ticket master with unique pre-sale passwords, but the goal is egalitarian ticket distribution, so it won't be easy.
What I meant was if I live in NYC and cannot afford to travel to show (pretend all my money goes to rent and skinny jeans or whatever they like up there now), then my option is NYC is nothing. In today's economy, limited travel is pretty common. Should someone who has NYC as their #5 be get tickets before someone who it as their only option?
If that was the case, we would still be using ticket master with unique pre-sale passwords, but the goal is egalitarian ticket distribution, so it won't be easy.
What I meant was if I live in NYC and cannot afford to travel to show (pretend all my money goes to rent and skinny jeans or whatever they like up there now), then my option is NYC is nothing. In today's economy, limited travel is pretty common. Should someone who has NYC as their #5 be get tickets before someone who it as their only option?
Only if they are chosen first out of the pool and their first 4 choices are taken.
I agree on the TM, but that's not happening. I also think tickets should be priced to market to solve ALL of this, but whatever. I'm just saying EASY based on the direction they already seem to be going.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Should someone who has NYC as their #5 be get tickets before someone who it as their only option?
Fuck no but you're assuming the 10club gives a shit about that kind of logic.
Why not? Read my response above. I don't see why if you make only 1 choice you should get precedence over someone who is fine with any of 5 choices. Yes, I agree someone should NOT get a SECOND set of tickets before someone else gets their first set. But, that's generic. That doesn't classify if you put 1 or 5 choices.
Random draw. I get picked first, I get first choice. If my first choice is gone, i get my 2nd, so on and so forth until I get my FIRST set of tickets. Then, someone else gets a chance.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
If that was the case, we would still be using ticket master with unique pre-sale passwords, but the goal is egalitarian ticket distribution, so it won't be easy.
What I meant was if I live in NYC and cannot afford to travel to show (pretend all my money goes to rent and skinny jeans or whatever they like up there now), then my option is NYC is nothing. In today's economy, limited travel is pretty common. Should someone who has NYC as their #5 be get tickets before someone who it as their only option?
Only if they are chosen first out of the pool and their first 4 choices are taken.
I agree on the TM, but that's not happening. I also think tickets should be priced to market to solve ALL of this, but whatever. I'm just saying EASY based on the direction they already seem to be going.
I agree on the TM as well. But since that is not happening again, I think the easiest would be a open lottery for all shows. You could even add a cap for people that only want to go to a certain amount of shows so they could get withdrawn should they hit that number. And only allow to put in for one night of two to certain venues.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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10C - please confirm. Thanks!
reading comprehension is your friend.
96)Randalls Island I,II
98)NJ,MSG I,II
00) Virginia Beach Jones Beach I,II,III Saratoga Springs Seattle I
03)Nassau Camden I MSG I,II NJ
04)Boston I,II Reading
05)Montreal Ottawa Toronto Borgata I,II Philly
06) Irving plaza Albany Hartford Camden I,II NJ I,II LA I,II Gorge I,II
07)Lolla
08)Roo Camden I,II MSG I,II Hartford Beacon
09)Chicago I,II Philly II,III,IV
10)Hartford Newark MSG I,II
11)PJ20 I,II
13)Wrigley Brooklyn I,II Hartford
14)Moline,milwaukee
15)Central Park
16)MSG I,II
17)Wrigley I,II
18)Wrigley I,II
22)MSG,Camden
24)MSG I,II
25)Hard Rock I,II
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
LOST
LOST
LOST
EV TOUR
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LOST
LOST
ATW TOUR
We are currently processing winners. You will be notified when the final drawing has been made.
I'm assuming they are considering the "10c tickets" are actually the 9 prizes available for drawing?
East Troy, WI - 9.3.11
East Troy, WI - 9.4.11
Atlanta, GA - 9.22.12
Las Vegas, NV - 10.31.12 (EV)
Las Vegas, NV - 11.1.12 (EV)
Chicago, IL - 7.19.13
Dallas, TX - 11.15.13
Oklahoma City, OK - 11.16.13
Seattle, WA - 12.6.13
Lincoln, NE - 10.9.14
Moline, IL - 10.17.14
St. Paul, MN - 10.19.14
Milwaukee, WI - 10.20.14
New York, NY - 5.1.16
New York, NY - 5.2.16
Boston, MA - 8.5.16
Boston, MA - 8.7.16
Chicago, IL - 8.20.16
Okay, a bit melodramatic but needless to say, I'm a big fat loser today. Waahhhh.
Edit: Upon reading a few other threads it seems as though only 9 people actually won tickets and those thee the prize winners so that explains why so many people were shut out...
And all this time I thought I was a super huge loser! Hahaha
If I enter the drawing for 2 PJ shows, lets say NY 1 & 2, I put show 1 as my no 1 and show 2 as my 2nd option. If i dont get a ticket to show 1, am I ahead of the others who has show 2 as their no 1 ( because I didnt get my first ticket) am I left out to the 2nd show also if only those why has show 2 as 1st option get a ticket?
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
A: For each show we will randomly draw members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
As it is now, you would not increase your chances, and you would be out as both shows would sell out to those who chose it as their #1 option
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And likely many others, Boston, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Toronto- lets not sugar coat it
Fixed that for you.
But, I remain optimistic as that is the only choice we have now. Please 10c, pull off a miracle here!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Something I haven't seen mentioned (it probably has been) is the fact you can only have one #1 (obviously) will surely mean it is easier to get tickets to at least one show? In the past there were a number of people, perhaps the majority, scoring tickets to each and every show. We know that because they have talked about it here.
How many unique ticket purchasers have there been for each tour I wonder? People will be a lot more cautious about which shows they pick as their #1 so I think things will be a lot different next time around.
Still doesn't answer my question - let me see if I can make it clearer...(or perhaps I am a dummy!)
"Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered."
This doesn't elaborate on whether the 8 names were drawn from a "winning ticket list" OR from the entire pool of entries. It doesn't say "one name for each of the 8 shows WON" it says each of the "8 shows ENTERED". It doesn't specify whether the "winner" is a "ticket winner" or "prize winner". Does being selected for a "ticket" also mean the winner of a "prize"? Just trying to figure out if ticket selection was one process, and the drawing an entirely different process from ALL entries.
The common understanding here seems to be that the "ticket winners" were also the "prize winners", which I'm fine with, but I'm just trying to get some very specific clarification and wording that says that so we can all be in full understanding of how this system works, and provide accurate feedback.
THANKS!
the rest got the Sorry, your name was not drawn for a pair of Ten Club tickets...etc
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I suppose if they do bigger tours the tickets wouldnt be an issue ...... or on a 2:nd thought, after 100 shows in the US everybody do still do wanna se them in MSG.
-00, Stockholm
-07, Copenhagen
-09, Berlin
-10, Berlin
-11, East Troy 1+2
-12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
-13, London, Chicago
-14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
-16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
-17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
-18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
-19, EV Brussels
1) Put everyone who's requested any tickets in a "hat" (hopefully, they aren't ACTUALLY doing this, but I have to be honest, I would not be surprised.
2) Pick a name, give them their 1st pick, if that allotment's gone, give them their 2nd, so on and so forth until that person has been given a pair or has exhausted their requested shows. But only ONE pair and stop.
3) Once everyone has gone once, put anyone who has any of their priorities still left back in a hat and start picking again
4) Continue process until all tix are gone, or everyone's order has been gone through
The way they are suggesting now, if you pick NYC2 #1, you are unlikely to get NYC1 (or vice versa, just using NYC as an example), Boston, Hartford, or anywhere else with high demand. So, if you miss out on your #1, you are SoL because there are probably more folks than tix for each of those "popular" shows. They are putting all NYC1 Priority 1's in a hat, and if any are left over, those that missed their other first options and put this as #2 get put in a hat - well, that's not going to do you a whole lot of good if they're already gone to the folks that put it as their priority 1.
The way I've just suggested, if you get picked number 1,227, you still have a chance at your 2nd option b/c it doesn't matter if 50,000 people picked it as their 1st. It just matters that you got randomly selected before them. (But you don't get your 2nd priority if your 1st is available unless everyone's had a turn and it's still available - to those that didn't understand what I wrote and think I'm suggesting if you get picked first, you get all your shows. If that's you - read the suggestion again. If you still don't understand, please consult a 4th grader. It's basically a "draft" with random ordering. You only get 1 "pick" then everyone else gets a turn, then if anything's left, you get a 2nd draw).
Sorry, 3rd grader here, what happens to people who can only afford to commit to one show? SOL in favor of those can afford multiples?
Please change that notification to "Better luck next time.....sucker"
But, that's easy - I think that suggestions already been made by others. Just have a place where someone can say what the max number of shows they want and you are removed from the "pool" once you've maxed. That's why this works. It's an easy addition. Each go round, they can also verify if each person still wants another set before the proceed with the drawing.
No need to do complicated credits, if/then statements, etc. Easy is ALWAYS better.
If that was the case, we would still be using ticket master with unique pre-sale passwords, but the goal is egalitarian ticket distribution, so it won't be easy.
What I meant was if I live in NYC and cannot afford to travel to show (pretend all my money goes to rent and skinny jeans or whatever they like up there now), then my option is NYC is nothing. In today's economy, limited travel is pretty common. Should someone who has NYC as their #5 be get tickets before someone who it as their only option?
Only if they are chosen first out of the pool and their first 4 choices are taken.
I agree on the TM, but that's not happening. I also think tickets should be priced to market to solve ALL of this, but whatever. I'm just saying EASY based on the direction they already seem to be going.
Fuck no but you're assuming the 10club gives a shit about that kind of logic.
Why not? Read my response above. I don't see why if you make only 1 choice you should get precedence over someone who is fine with any of 5 choices. Yes, I agree someone should NOT get a SECOND set of tickets before someone else gets their first set. But, that's generic. That doesn't classify if you put 1 or 5 choices.
Random draw. I get picked first, I get first choice. If my first choice is gone, i get my 2nd, so on and so forth until I get my FIRST set of tickets. Then, someone else gets a chance.
I agree on the TM as well. But since that is not happening again, I think the easiest would be a open lottery for all shows. You could even add a cap for people that only want to go to a certain amount of shows so they could get withdrawn should they hit that number. And only allow to put in for one night of two to certain venues.