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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    We can not trust liars. Some hearts are just unable to be truthful.
    Sad but true. It's ok, we accept some must lie ...

    Comes down to the heart. Thankfully most people don't have to lie...
    they are real and proud of it. Make decisions that don't require a cover up.
    Live a life that is true of heart. Motives pure.

    That is where true colors live is in the true heart.
    Positively lovely those true colors can be ... like a rainbow spectrum of light!

    I have found some lovely people in my life, I have learned much from.
    This is living! :D
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    brianlux wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    quite entertaining
    thank you

    It is, indeed, Chadwick!

    How about this for a simple take on truth and god and such: More can be learned from asking the right questions than ever will be found in believing one has all the answers.
    I have found the most meaningful answers when I didn't even realize I was asking ...
    there are no wrong questions by the way only wrong answers in my opinion,

    sometimes one can even hear that buzzer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhh0IjcroA :lol:
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    I think that, yonks ago, there was a thead about 'true colours'..... (or rather 'colors'!). Think it may have also gone down a certain path....

    Though, as you say, interesting topic. Another thread perhaps? Are we who we really say we are? Might mess with my mind! :lol:
    Yes ! I agree!

    I have found from listening that some don't want to know who they are ...
    like there is something they avoid. I can feel the fear when the subject is close.
    If they would only know feeling is the answer, even if painful. Straight up, heart first
    if only they would dive in. Then they would know.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Cosmo wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    quite entertaining
    thank you

    It is, indeed, Chadwick!

    How about this for a simple take on truth and god and such: More can be learned from asking the right questions than ever will be found in believing one has all the answers.
    ...
    That is true... I have learned more about people than God. Whether it is Christianity or Judaism or the spiritual beliefs of an individual, the true aspects of who the person is, comes to the surface. It tends to bring out the true character of the person I am speaking to, rather than the person they wish to portray themselves as.
    This so true some are not at all what I thought from how they have portrayed themselves
    in the past. Even our last conversation with your baiting, I realized much more about you
    and your beliefs and criticism of others.
    I knew you used rude tendencies to get your point across and to show off
    but I really felt you would be far more open to possibilities
    that are changing people everyday. I was sad to see you are not.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Cosmo wrote:
    Lemme guess. I didn't make the list, did I?
    ...
    Testing... testing... check.... check...
    In my opinion... Knowing God would result in words of acceptance and respect of my unanswered questions. It would be tempered with empathy and understanding of my personal dilemma in struggling with this question. It would not be met with judgement of my character, misconception of my motives, condesending arrogance and general not-very-niceishness.
    ...
    End test.
    Not when you consistently call someone bullshit :lol:
    really?

    can you be honest?
    It is baiting and a challenging to say no one can know God.
    Stop pretending please.It's embarrassing for you.
    If you wanted to try to know God you would be open to possibilities
    not contrary.

    Why do you think you deserve to be treated with respect when you don't
    treat others as so?

    My words are sincere, my trying to help you from the heart.
    Can you say your words and actions come from the same place?

    If so lets try again ;)

    we are all a work in progress yes?
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    Cosmo wrote:
    .....And when it is our time to die... we will at least, pick up another truth... is there life after death... or is there not? Afterlife? Void? We will know for sure.

    If there's not an afterlife.......we will have nothing to know with
  • vomikus39
    vomikus39 Posts: 250
    If there's not an afterlife.......we will have nothing to know with[/quote]

    Very well said. You should write

    :clap::clap: :corn:
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited December 2012
    rollings wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    .....And when it is our time to die... we will at least, pick up another truth... is there life after death... or is there not? Afterlife? Void? We will know for sure.

    If there's not an afterlife.......we will have nothing to know with
    ...
    Yes. But, it will still be a truth... we will no longer exist, therefore, afterlife does not exist.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Hmm, interesting thought, Cosmo. This could lead to a conversation about being forthright which is sort of a subset of truthfulness which is a subset of truth.
    ...
    It is.
    I have had people exalt the greatness of their love for all of God's creations... then, condemn a massive portion of humans because of their belief system being not the same as their own.
    Which had lead me to the perception that Religion isn't bad... it's the truths in the people who believe that create the problems. Like, the Rev. Phelps clan... it is their message, not the Christian Religion they claim to represent, that is the basis of their shitheadedness.

    i believe we call that hypocrisy cosmo.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    so it would appear my truth for today was spoken by my #2... she informed me i wont be able to listen to the triple j hottest 100 on australia day(cause ill be cruisingthe south pacific).. i said dont tell me that. she replied, TRUTH. so there you have it.. truth is relative.. and sometimes its a bit of a bummer. ;)8-)
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    catefrances wrote:
    so it would appear my truth for today was spoken by my #2... she informed me i wont be able to listen to the triple j hottest 100 on australia day(cause ill be cruisingthe south pacific).. i said dont tell me that. she replied, TRUTH. so there you have it.. truth is relative.. and sometimes its a bit of a bummer. ;)8-)
    ...
    Wait a minute... is it a truth if it has not happened, yet?
    ...
    Truth is... Cruising The South Pacific sounds like it ain't all that bad.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    so it would appear my truth for today was spoken by my #2... she informed me i wont be able to listen to the triple j hottest 100 on australia day(cause ill be cruisingthe south pacific).. i said dont tell me that. she replied, TRUTH. so there you have it.. truth is relative.. and sometimes its a bit of a bummer. ;)8-)
    ...
    Wait a minute... is it a truth if it has not happened, yet?
    ...
    Truth is... Cruising The South Pacific sounds like it ain't all that bad.

    im taking the monsters so hold that truth about cruising the sth pacific aint all that bad for now cosmo. :lol:
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    catefrances wrote:
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    So true. That is not a pipe! ;)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    magritte_pipe2.jpg

    So true. That is not a pipe! ;)


    looks like one tho, doesnt it??? ;)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    magritte_pipe2.jpg

    So true. That is not a pipe! ;)


    looks like one tho, doesnt it??? ;)

    Indeed it does!

    (The first time I stepped in front of a Magritte in real life I knew I'd stepped into... well, at least what looked like... another universe.)
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    Indeed it does!

    (The first time I stepped in front of a Magritte in real life I knew I'd stepped into... well, at least what looked like... another universe.)


    you know i want to say i saw ceci n'est pas une pipe when i was at the worcester art museum last year but without access to my pics from that visit i cant be certain.. my memory is fairly shitty at times. ill have to get back to you on that.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Indeed it does!

    (The first time I stepped in front of a Magritte in real life I knew I'd stepped into... well, at least what looked like... another universe.)


    you know i want to say i saw ceci n'est pas une pipe when i was at the worcester art museum last year but without access to my pics from that visit i cant be certain.. my memory is fairly shitty at times. ill have to get back to you on that.

    Oh my, problems with memory could certainly play a role in the discussion of truth. As I get older I'm more and more wary of saying, "I swear (this or that) happened." Is it true? Did I dream it or read about it or just make it up? :|
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Indeed it does!

    (The first time I stepped in front of a Magritte in real life I knew I'd stepped into... well, at least what looked like... another universe.)


    you know i want to say i saw ceci n'est pas une pipe when i was at the worcester art museum last year but without access to my pics from that visit i cant be certain.. my memory is fairly shitty at times. ill have to get back to you on that.

    Oh my, problems with memory could certainly play a role in the discussion of truth. As I get older I'm more and more wary of saying, "I swear (this or that) happened." Is it true? Did I dream it or read about it or just make it up? :|

    age does deteriorate memory to varying degrees.. but in this instance the sheer volume of splendid artworks ive seen since last october is playing a major part... i swear. ;)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    catefrances wrote:


    you know i want to say i saw ceci n'est pas une pipe when i was at the worcester art museum last year but without access to my pics from that visit i cant be certain.. my memory is fairly shitty at times. ill have to get back to you on that.

    Oh my, problems with memory could certainly play a role in the discussion of truth. As I get older I'm more and more wary of saying, "I swear (this or that) happened." Is it true? Did I dream it or read about it or just make it up? :|

    age does deteriorate memory to varying degrees.. but in this instance the sheer volume of splendid artworks ive seen since last october is playing a major part... i swear. ;)

    And in my case, it's just age... I swear! :oops: :lol:
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