CIA director David Petraeus resigns

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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    Still trying to figure out how the head of a massive security agency couldn't have the sense not to send emails to his girlfriend.

    Sex makes otherwise intelligent people do fucked up things... Remember that story a couple of years ago about that astronaut who drove across country wearing a diaper so she could kidnap a rival homewrecker?
    :think:

    Good point.
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  • norm
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    :lol::lol: :fp: :lol:
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Obama's team was wise to wait until just after election before letting the top blow off this story.

    His hand chosen pick for CIA and his commanding officer in Afghanistan in steamy affairs. Possible security breaches that involved our top spy.

    I'm guessing Eric Cantor is getting a lot of inside grief for not pushing the tip on this story up the chain of command.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Remember when this guy was a darling of the GOP and the guy who was going to unseat Obama in 2012?
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  • Jason P
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    So the whole investigation began because a FBI Agent who apparently had the hots for Jill Kelley did her a personal favor to investigate a few catty emails?

    That is the first disturbing fact: it appears that the FBI not only devoted substantial resources, but also engaged in highly invasive surveillance, for no reason other than to do a personal favor for a friend of one of its agents, to find out who was very mildly harassing her by email. The emails Kelley received were, as the Daily Beast reports, quite banal and clearly not an event that warranted an FBI investigation:

    "The emails that Jill Kelley showed an FBI friend near the start of last summer were not jealous lover warnings like 'stay away from my man', a knowledgeable source tells The Daily Beast. . .

    "'More like, 'Who do you think you are? . . .You parade around the base . . . You need to take it down a notch,'" according to the source, who was until recently at the highest levels of the intelligence community and prefers not to be identified by name.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-abuse-of-the-surveillance-state-2012-11#ixzz2C81aReH2
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  • norm
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    1. Threatening emails: Early in the summer, Jill Kelley complains to an FBI friend about being sent harassing emails. The FBI later establishes they came from Paula Broadwell, who co-authored a biography of Gen David Petraeus.

    2. Affair: The FBI investigation also reveals emails between Mrs Broadwell - a married former military officer - and Gen Petraeus that indicate they were having an extra-marital affair.

    3. Family friends: Jill Kelley and her husband, Scott, are family friends of Gen Petraeus and his wife, Holly. Officials say Mrs Broadwell saw Mrs Kelley as a rival for Gen Petraeus's attentions. However, there is no suggestion Mrs Kelley and Gen Petraeus had an affair.

    4. "Inappropriate emails" investigated: The top US commander in Afghanistan, Gen John Allen, is now being investigated for allegedly sending "inappropriate emails" to Jill Kelley. The FBI has referred the matter to the Pentagon. A senior official says up to 30,000 pages of emails and other documents are under review.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Wait, what?

    This just keeps getting weirder. Both Gen. David Petraeus and Gen. John Allen intervened in a custody battle involving the sister of Jill Kelley, the New York Post revealed on Tuesday. Kelley has been linked to both Petraeus—she allegedly first reported the emails Petraeus’s mistress Paula Broadwell sent her as harassment—and Allen, who allegedly sent her between 20,000 to 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” emails. Both Petraeus and Allen wrote letters to family court in support of Kelley’s sister, Natalie Khawan, who was entangled with her ex-husband in a nasty custody battle for their 4-year-old son.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/11/13/allen-petraeus-helped-kelley-s-sister.html
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    norm wrote:
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    1. Threatening emails: Early in the summer, Jill Kelley complains to an FBI friend about being sent harassing emails. The FBI later establishes they came from Paula Broadwell, who co-authored a biography of Gen David Petraeus.

    2. Affair: The FBI investigation also reveals emails between Mrs Broadwell - a married former military officer - and Gen Petraeus that indicate they were having an extra-marital affair.

    3. Family friends: Jill Kelley and her husband, Scott, are family friends of Gen Petraeus and his wife, Holly. Officials say Mrs Broadwell saw Mrs Kelley as a rival for Gen Petraeus's attentions. However, there is no suggestion Mrs Kelley and Gen Petraeus had an affair.

    4. "Inappropriate emails" investigated: The top US commander in Afghanistan, Gen John Allen, is now being investigated for allegedly sending "inappropriate emails" to Jill Kelley. The FBI has referred the matter to the Pentagon. A senior official says up to 30,000 pages of emails and other documents are under review.

    30,000 pages?!?! Wow! Who has time to even write that much?
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    edited November 2012
    I think it's hilarious that Paula Broadwell supposedly had an affair with a guy she wrote a book about, calling the book "All In".

    Hello, innuendo.
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  • Cosmo
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    What makes people actually believe that former director Petraeus CANNOT be called to testify in a Congressional Hearing... just because he has resigned his position? The only way that can't directly question him and hear his responses is if he were dead.
    Haven't people heard about something called a 'subpoena'?
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    JimmyV wrote:

    30,000 pages?!?! Wow! Who has time to even write that much?

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  • JimmyV
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    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:

    30,000 pages?!?! Wow! Who has time to even write that much?

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  • hedonist
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    Cosmo wrote:
    What makes people actually believe that former director Petraeus CANNOT be called to testify in a Congressional Hearing... just because he has resigned his position? The only way that can't directly question him and hear his responses is if he were dead.
    Haven't people heard about something called a 'subpoena'?
    I said something similar at the start of this thread...makes no sense.

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  • dimitrispearljam
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    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    maybe that was the way to get out....or to cover up something bigger..
    ill say the same,i said the first day thread open
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    hedonist wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    What makes people actually believe that former director Petraeus CANNOT be called to testify in a Congressional Hearing... just because he has resigned his position? The only way that can't directly question him and hear his responses is if he were dead.
    Haven't people heard about something called a 'subpoena'?
    I said something similar at the start of this thread...makes no sense.

    Something's rotten in Denmark!
    ...
    I don't understand... do people believe that a bank president, for example, can avert any judicial hearing about descrepencies in banking practices... just by quitting his job?
    Former director Petraeus CAN be served a subpoena to testify before Congress. His resignation DOES NOT make him immune to testifying.
    Now... it is up to the Congressional Panel to decide whether or not to call on Petraeus before them or not.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    maybe that was the way to get out....or to cover up something bigger..
    ill say the same,i said the first day thread open

    I agree. I wonder what the CIA fucked up this time.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Cosmo wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    What makes people actually believe that former director Petraeus CANNOT be called to testify in a Congressional Hearing... just because he has resigned his position? The only way that can't directly question him and hear his responses is if he were dead.
    Haven't people heard about something called a 'subpoena'?
    I said something similar at the start of this thread...makes no sense.

    Something's rotten in Denmark!
    ...
    I don't understand... do people believe that a bank president, for example, can avert any judicial hearing about descrepencies in banking practices... just by quitting his job?
    Former director Petraeus CAN be served a subpoena to testify before Congress. His resignation DOES NOT make him immune to testifying.
    Now... it is up to the Congressional Panel to decide whether or not to call on Petraeus before them or not.

    True... honestly, he could just be buying time.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    I understand where everyone is coming from but I do think it is very premature to assume there is any sort of cover-up underway. It is very possible that this is just a case of a guy who gave into temptation and had an affair, a woman who got jealous and didn't handle it very well, another guy who wrote 30,000 pages of love letters while serving as the supreme military commander in Afghanistan, and an FBI agent who jumped in on the action by sending topless pictures of himself. Jesus...we really do need a head shake smilie.

    Anyway, I'm not convinced that this is anything other than people behaving badly. Let's hope that is really all it is.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    JimmyV wrote:
    I understand where everyone is coming from but I do think it is very premature to assume there is any sort of cover-up underway. It is very possible that this is just a case of a guy who gave into temptation and had an affair, a woman who got jealous and didn't handle it very well, another guy who wrote 30,000 pages of love letters while serving as the supreme military commander in Afghanistan, and an FBI agent who jumped in on the action by sending topless pictures of himself. Jesus...we really do need a head shake smilie.

    Anyway, I'm not convinced that this is anything other than people behaving badly. Let's hope that is really all it is.

    Through my distrust of the CIA, I always assume the worst...
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    the cia kidnapped and detained Libyan militia, the attack on the consulate was retaliation or attempt to free the prisoners, 3 people died

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    Sec. 4. Prohibition of Certain Detention Facilities, and Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals.

    (a) CIA Detention. The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future.

    (b) International Committee of the Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals. All departments and agencies of the Federal Government shall provide the International Committee of the Red Cross with notification of, and timely access to, any individual detained in any armed conflict in the custody or under the effective control of an officer, employee, or other agent of the United States Government or detained within a facility owned, operated, or controlled by a department or agency of the United States Government, consistent with Department of Defense regulations and policies.

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