It begs to question that we know as much as we do. Our government has thrown three women and their private lives to the media wolves.
Petraeus's wife is an innocent victim in all this and my heart goes out to her. Same for the family friend assuming there is nothing more to her story. But the mistress broke into a computer used by the Director of the CIA. That is a serious bit of bad business.
the cia kidnapped and detained Libyan militia, the attack on the consulate was retaliation or attempt to free the prisoners, 3 people died
exe order 13491
Sec. 4. Prohibition of Certain Detention Facilities, and Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals.
(a) CIA Detention. The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future.
(b) International Committee of the Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals. All departments and agencies of the Federal Government shall provide the International Committee of the Red Cross with notification of, and timely access to, any individual detained in any armed conflict in the custody or under the effective control of an officer, employee, or other agent of the United States Government or detained within a facility owned, operated, or controlled by a department or agency of the United States Government, consistent with Department of Defense regulations and policies.
I tend to think the CIA kidnaps and detains a lot of people without notifying the Red Cross.
the cia kidnapped and detained Libyan militia, the attack on the consulate was retaliation or attempt to free the prisoners, 3 people died
exe order 13491
Sec. 4. Prohibition of Certain Detention Facilities, and Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals.
(a) CIA Detention. The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future.
(b) International Committee of the Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals. All departments and agencies of the Federal Government shall provide the International Committee of the Red Cross with notification of, and timely access to, any individual detained in any armed conflict in the custody or under the effective control of an officer, employee, or other agent of the United States Government or detained within a facility owned, operated, or controlled by a department or agency of the United States Government, consistent with Department of Defense regulations and policies.
I tend to think the CIA kidnaps and detains a lot of people without notifying the Red Cross.
i tend to agree, we ignore most of the geneva conventions...but what about the president? do you think the cia notified the president about the captured libyans (if true)? do you think the president knew the attacks were retaliation or an attempt to free the captured? ill ignore that fact that the president ordered a stop to all cia detentions for now
the cia kidnapped and detained Libyan militia, the attack on the consulate was retaliation or attempt to free the prisoners, 3 people died
exe order 13491
Sec. 4. Prohibition of Certain Detention Facilities, and Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals.
(a) CIA Detention. The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future.
(b) International Committee of the Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals. All departments and agencies of the Federal Government shall provide the International Committee of the Red Cross with notification of, and timely access to, any individual detained in any armed conflict in the custody or under the effective control of an officer, employee, or other agent of the United States Government or detained within a facility owned, operated, or controlled by a department or agency of the United States Government, consistent with Department of Defense regulations and policies.
I tend to think the CIA kidnaps and detains a lot of people without notifying the Red Cross.
i tend to agree, we ignore most of the geneva conventions...but what about the president? do you think the cia notified the president about the captured libyans (if true)? do you think the president knew the attacks were retaliation or an attempt to free the captured? ill ignore that fact that the president ordered a stop to all cia detentions for now
I don't know. Not sure what the President knew. But truth be told it wouldn't bother me either way.
Also, I do think it is a stretch at this point to assume Benghazy had anything to do with Petraeus resignation.
but it's not really all that interesting or unusual for men of power to misbehave.
I thought for sure the 'friend' was getting harassing emails cause she was the new mistress
a little younger prettier same type.
As far as smoke and mirrors, bigger fish to fry
or play hide the real dirt maybe so, right? we should be used to that.
What makes people actually believe that former director Petraeus CANNOT be called to testify in a Congressional Hearing... just because he has resigned his position? The only way that can't directly question him and hear his responses is if he were dead.
Haven't people heard about something called a 'subpoena'?
I said something similar at the start of this thread...makes no sense.
Something's rotten in Denmark!
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I don't understand... do people believe that a bank president, for example, can avert any judicial hearing about descrepencies in banking practices... just by quitting his job?
Former director Petraeus CAN be served a subpoena to testify before Congress. His resignation DOES NOT make him immune to testifying.
Now... it is up to the Congressional Panel to decide whether or not to call on Petraeus before them or not.
The hope is that they do subpoena him to testify. This is what was initially reported and I haven't heard anything about a subpoena as of yet:
[Updated at 4:52 p.m.] Acting CIA Director Michael Morrell will testify next week before the Senate Intelligence Committee about the fatal attack in Benghazi instead of David Petraeus, according to the office of that committee's chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
I am just trying to figure about why any of this is the public's business??? Who gives a fuck if the military guy sends emails to the chick the FBI guy is banging?? Seriously. :fp: Not that we shouldn't be paying attention to the news - this is some juicy soap opera shit that we can't ignore... but why has the media and the government agencies turned it into a scandal that makes people lose their jobs and shit? Why did it ever become public in the first place?? Brutal.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I am just trying to figure about why any of this is the public's business??? Who gives a fuck if the military guy sends emails to the chick the FBI guy is banging?? Seriously. :fp: Not that we shouldn't be paying attention to the news - this is some juicy soap opera shit that we can't ignore... but why has the media and the government agencies turned it into a scandal that makes people lose their jobs and shit? Why did it ever become public in the first place?? Brutal.
I agree....this administration thinks Americans are idiots. You would think they could come up with a better distraction than this. My God! Four Americans are dead and they don't want us to know why! or is it they are so incompetent they can't get the job done and figure out what the hell happened!? It's disgraceful!
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
I am just trying to figure about why any of this is the public's business??? Who gives a fuck if the military guy sends emails to the chick the FBI guy is banging?? Seriously. :fp: Not that we shouldn't be paying attention to the news - this is some juicy soap opera shit that we can't ignore... but why has the media and the government agencies turned it into a scandal that makes people lose their jobs and shit? Why did it ever become public in the first place?? Brutal.
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I think what matters is Petraeus' position as Director of the CIA. He is supposed to know better than a subortinate officer or special agent. As Director, he is privy to intelligence data that should not go beyond the ears of only those with 'need to know' clearances.
It is just a weakness of character... and we all know weaknesses are easily exploited. You never attack an opponent's strengths, you expliot his weakness. As Director of the CIA and former General... he is supposed to know better because he is held to a higher standard, due to his rank/office.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I am just trying to figure about why any of this is the public's business??? Who gives a fuck if the military guy sends emails to the chick the FBI guy is banging?? Seriously. :fp: Not that we shouldn't be paying attention to the news - this is some juicy soap opera shit that we can't ignore... but why has the media and the government agencies turned it into a scandal that makes people lose their jobs and shit? Why did it ever become public in the first place?? Brutal.
I agree....this administration thinks Americans are idiots. You would think they could come up with a better distraction than this. My God! Four Americans are dead and they don't want us to know why! or is it they are so incompetent they can't get the job done and figure out what the hell happened!? It's disgraceful!
Oh, well, I'm not going for the "this is to distract us from Benghazi" theory at all. Something seems strange, but I don't think that's it.
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I am just trying to figure about why any of this is the public's business??? Who gives a fuck if the military guy sends emails to the chick the FBI guy is banging?? Seriously. :fp: Not that we shouldn't be paying attention to the news - this is some juicy soap opera shit that we can't ignore... but why has the media and the government agencies turned it into a scandal that makes people lose their jobs and shit? Why did it ever become public in the first place?? Brutal.
I agree....this administration thinks Americans are idiots. You would think they could come up with a better distraction than this. My God! Four Americans are dead and they don't want us to know why! or is it they are so incompetent they can't get the job done and figure out what the hell happened!? It's disgraceful!
Yes, this administration made a 4 star general cheat on his wife with a psychotic women, whom they then forced to threaten another women who may have been sleeping with another general, and influenced an FBI agent to become infatuated with one of the women he was investigating. Then after all that was accomplished, they convinced the media to cover this sex scandal of high ranking military/political people. All to get the focus off of something that no one except Fox News was talking about in the first place.
Well done Obama administration, well done.
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of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
Has it been confirmed that he gave her the classified material? I thought there were initial reports that she had compromised his computer and accessed info herself? That was the distinction in my mind. Is that incorrect?
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
Has it been confirmed that he gave her the classified material? I thought there were initial reports that she had compromised his computer and accessed info herself? That was the distinction in my mind. Is that incorrect?
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Either way... classified documents are not where they are supposed to be. That is a problem... especially when the documents are CIA related.
People are going to be in trouble for this.
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Hail, Hail!!!
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Either way... classified documents are not where they are supposed to be. That is a problem... especially when the documents are CIA related.
People are going to be in trouble for this.
Agreed. I do think there is a difference between him giving and her taking, but neither is acceptable and both are a big deal. This is much more important to me than who he was sleeping with.
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Either way... classified documents are not where they are supposed to be. That is a problem... especially when the documents are CIA related.
People are going to be in trouble for this.
Agreed. I do think there is a difference between him giving and her taking, but neither is acceptable and both are a big deal. This is much more important to me than who he was sleeping with.
Sure... if it's really true. Plus, God knows what they might consider "classified documents". It could have been the menu for a CIA christmas party for all we know. Best to wait and see how it unfolds!
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
They learned that Ms. Broadwell and Mr. Petraeus had set up private Gmail accounts to use for their communications, which included explicit details of a sexual nature, according to U.S. officials. But because Mr. Petraeus used a pseudonym, agents doing the monitoring didn't immediately uncover that he was the one communicating with Ms. Broadwell.
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During Ms. Broadwell's first interview in September, she admitted to the affair and turned over her computer, the officials said.
On her computer, investigators found classified documents, the U.S. officials said, a discovery that raised new concerns.
Has it been confirmed that he gave her the classified material? I thought there were initial reports that she had compromised his computer and accessed info herself? That was the distinction in my mind. Is that incorrect?
what distinction? he gave her access to classified material
i don't know about you, but i don't want the head of the cia giving any chick that would suck his viagra-aided dick access to anything classified
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Petraeus's wife is an innocent victim in all this and my heart goes out to her. Same for the family friend assuming there is nothing more to her story. But the mistress broke into a computer used by the Director of the CIA. That is a serious bit of bad business.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I tend to think the CIA kidnaps and detains a lot of people without notifying the Red Cross.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
i tend to agree, we ignore most of the geneva conventions...but what about the president? do you think the cia notified the president about the captured libyans (if true)? do you think the president knew the attacks were retaliation or an attempt to free the captured? ill ignore that fact that the president ordered a stop to all cia detentions for now
I don't know. Not sure what the President knew. But truth be told it wouldn't bother me either way.
Also, I do think it is a stretch at this point to assume Benghazy had anything to do with Petraeus resignation.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
dating myself
but it's not really all that interesting or unusual for men of power to misbehave.
I thought for sure the 'friend' was getting harassing emails cause she was the new mistress
a little younger prettier same type.
As far as smoke and mirrors, bigger fish to fry
or play hide the real dirt maybe so, right? we should be used to that.
The hope is that they do subpoena him to testify. This is what was initially reported and I haven't heard anything about a subpoena as of yet:
[Updated at 4:52 p.m.] Acting CIA Director Michael Morrell will testify next week before the Senate Intelligence Committee about the fatal attack in Benghazi instead of David Petraeus, according to the office of that committee's chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
I agree....this administration thinks Americans are idiots. You would think they could come up with a better distraction than this. My God! Four Americans are dead and they don't want us to know why! or is it they are so incompetent they can't get the job done and figure out what the hell happened!? It's disgraceful!
I think what matters is Petraeus' position as Director of the CIA. He is supposed to know better than a subortinate officer or special agent. As Director, he is privy to intelligence data that should not go beyond the ears of only those with 'need to know' clearances.
It is just a weakness of character... and we all know weaknesses are easily exploited. You never attack an opponent's strengths, you expliot his weakness. As Director of the CIA and former General... he is supposed to know better because he is held to a higher standard, due to his rank/office.
Hail, Hail!!!
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One of things that cracks me up, since they keep talking about Broadwell being the author of Petraeus' biography, is that she had a ghost writer:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle ... story.html
He describes himself as "clueless." :roll:
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yes, this administration made a 4 star general cheat on his wife with a psychotic women, whom they then forced to threaten another women who may have been sleeping with another general, and influenced an FBI agent to become infatuated with one of the women he was investigating. Then after all that was accomplished, they convinced the media to cover this sex scandal of high ranking military/political people. All to get the focus off of something that no one except Fox News was talking about in the first place.
Well done Obama administration, well done.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
11 months of:
23 hours solitary confinement
forced to sleep naked
cavity searched every night before bed
not permitted to lie down from 0500-2200
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
This becomes America's business... when classified documents are illegally removed from secure facilities.
Hail, Hail!!!
Has it been confirmed that he gave her the classified material? I thought there were initial reports that she had compromised his computer and accessed info herself? That was the distinction in my mind. Is that incorrect?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Either way... classified documents are not where they are supposed to be. That is a problem... especially when the documents are CIA related.
People are going to be in trouble for this.
Hail, Hail!!!
Agreed. I do think there is a difference between him giving and her taking, but neither is acceptable and both are a big deal. This is much more important to me than who he was sleeping with.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
what distinction? he gave her access to classified material
i don't know about you, but i don't want the head of the cia giving any chick that would suck his viagra-aided dick access to anything classified