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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    ESPN is reporting that $200M - $250M in bets shifted based on the hail mary call. The spread was 3.5 favoring the Packers.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Can the replacement refs critique Lang's blocking for his QB? Why didn't the Packers DB just knock the ball out of bounds. What exactly is the NFL ruleon possession of the ball in the air? I thought there wasn't possession until the ball is down. It's not after the DB pulls the ball away, it's at the exact moment the ball is down. Anyone know if this is correct?
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Jason P wrote:
    ESPN is reporting that $200M - $250M in bets shifted based on the hail mary call. The spread was 3.5 favoring the Packers.
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    JK_Livin wrote:
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.

    it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...

    what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I understand where the guy is coming from...
    I understand he is pissed off beyond belief....
    I understand he is livid....

    But the guy should just shut his mouth....Right?
    He is now looking at a BIG FINE and possible suspension....Wouldnt you think?

    And I am not saying I disagree with the guy....
    But he should just keep his mouth shut......

    Or not...


    I highly doubt they will suspend a guy for criticizing officials. This whole thing has gotten so out of hand that players just don't care anymore. It's a complete fucking joke. Roger Goodell is officially the worst commissioner in all of sports.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    DS1119 wrote:
    Adam Schefter is doing an interview and says he received a text from an NFl Executive that he says stated that "The NFL needs to go to the NHL rule where all the goals are reviewed at league headquarters. It needs to be the same with all scoring plays".


    Not a bad idea.

    They could probably even get the NHL to do make the calls right...since they won't be busy for a while ;)
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  • dougfloyd
    dougfloyd Fishers, IN Posts: 2,585
    Indifference71 wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    I understand where the guy is coming from...
    I understand he is pissed off beyond belief....
    I understand he is livid....

    But the guy should just shut his mouth....Right?
    He is now looking at a BIG FINE and possible suspension....Wouldnt you think?

    And I am not saying I disagree with the guy....
    But he should just keep his mouth shut......

    Or not...


    I highly doubt they will suspend a guy for criticizing officials. This whole thing has gotten so out of hand that players just don't care anymore. It's a complete fucking joke. Roger Goodell is officially the worst commissioner in all of sports.

    I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The worst part of the call for the pack is, in todays NFL is you can't afford to have games given away, I guess fortunately for them the Lions gave away Sundays game (but Lions was by there own stupidity), the pack had this one stolen.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    dougfloyd wrote:
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    I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.


    The NFL is going to have some motivation to resolve this now that a huge fuck-up like last night cost the Packers a game.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    polaris_x wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.

    it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...

    what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...

    You can't review possesion so if they called a td on the field it stands.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    ESPN is reporting that $200M - $250M in bets shifted based on the hail mary call. The spread was 3.5 favoring the Packers.
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
    Point fixing???

    Temp job. Low pay. Chance to make some real money before going back to officiating D3 and Arena League games?

    :think:
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  • dougfloyd
    dougfloyd Fishers, IN Posts: 2,585
    Indifference71 wrote:
    dougfloyd wrote:
    [
    I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.


    The NFL is going to have some motivation to resolve this now that a huge fuck-up like last night cost the Packers a game.

    I would hope so too but with Goodell you never know. I'd be shocked if the real refs weren't back by week 5.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    JK_Livin wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.

    it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...

    what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...

    You can't review possesion so if they called a td on the field it stands.

    Thats what I understood from the announcers...what I didn't understand is what were they reviewing? Were they just making sure the ball didn't hit the ground?
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  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    score one for those socialist refs demanding that they get paid what they are worth? what a bunch of lazy, greedy, SOBs...they should take their shit pay for a shit job and be happy with it like those teachers in Chicago.
  • 81
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    jimed14 wrote:
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    that is full of win :lol:
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Jason P wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    ESPN is reporting that $200M - $250M in bets shifted based on the hail mary call. The spread was 3.5 favoring the Packers.
    That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
    Point fixing???

    Temp job. Low pay. Chance to make some real money before going back to officiating D3 and Arena League games?

    :think:

    Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    RW81233 wrote:
    score one for those socialist refs demanding that they get paid what they are worth? what a bunch of lazy, greedy, SOBs...they should take their shit pay for a shit job and be happy with it like those teachers in Chicago.

    :lol::lol::lol:
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,910
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.

    Well those part-time employees are obviously a pretty vital part of this league.
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    is there crying in football?

    :lol: :corn:

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    That was an awful call, even worse that it cost the Packers the game, but I don't think it's quite as bad as it's being made out to be. If possession isn't established til the db comes down, especially. He did have it tucked to his chest, but I think people are underestimating how much Tate had ahold of it. Jennings should've batted it down or done a better job at ripping it away.

    It was bad, but I think ESPN hyped it up a ton to give them something to talk about for the rest of the week. I've seen worse so far this season and that call was a helluva lot less annoying than the several 3rd and long pass interferences I've seen or the obvious balls breaking the plains that they miss with or without reviews.

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