U.S. embassy in Cairo apologizes

PJ_Soul wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

imagine if obama wins again. it was bad enough to some of these backwoods racist "conservatives" the first time. if he wins again a million heads are gonna explode.

these things go in cycles. it is a numbers game. romney's message is not resonating with voters so he is unlikely to win.

if obama wins are we gonna have rioting in the streets or just another 4 years of bitching, whining, and false accusations?

i agree with mickeyrat. i would rather have someone in the oval office who is pragmatic and able to see all sides, not someone hotheaded like romney who will rush to judgement and attack without having all of the facts like he did in this libya situation :fp:

It may actually be really way more positive if Obama wins this time around. For his first term, the number one goal for Republicans was to stonewall Obama at any cost in order to keep him from being reelected. But since he can't be reelected this around, perhaps they'd actually stop stonewalling and think about what's best for the country again, while just finding their next candidate.... on the other hand, maybe they'll just keep trying to sabotage the presidency in an effort to ensure that their next candidate doesn't lose again. :? Yeah, that sound more right somehow.

IF that woul dbe the line of thinking and course of action, they would surely lose again. Its already been seen that they are sitting on their hands while engaging in political theater. Approval ratings for Congress are lower than for the President right now.

It serves their political interest to find a means to work with this Pres should he be re-elected. I beleive he will be re-elected.

by the way, you guys see the new romney campaign poster??

Godfather. wrote:

g under p wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

just copied this from facebook,seems to be agreed on by a lot of facebook 'ers.
I was wondering will this hurt Obama's chance for reelection ?

Godfather.



Last Night....
Islamist rioters went insane in Lebanon
Islamist Anti American Protestors in Jordan went crazy
Islamist riots continued in Egypt
Tunisian police fired tear gas at US embassy Islamist rioters
The German embassy in Sudan smoldered by Islamists
Investigations continued in Libya over Islamists killing the US ambassador
Islamists burned American flags in London
Islamists invaded the US embassy in Tunisia
Islamist crowds began to form in Malaysia, Bangladesh, and Iraq

Hussein Obama did nothing about it because he is in fact, an Islamist, masquerading as an African American

Godfather...this sounds like frustration, confusion and some serious desperation.

All will be well if The President gets re-elected there's no need to give up on this country.....if the President gets re-elected I believe you already know he will. This country just isn't sold on a candidate named Mitt Romney to become the leader of this nation. The polls are saying so already and the debates are jet to come.

Peace

you may be right who knows at this point,like I said who knows what romney will do ? but I still believe given Obama's track record so far I can't support him and truley hope that he is not reelected.

quick thouught for the people saying that we can't lump all muslims togeather....isn't that what muslims all over the world are doing to Americans ? I can almost bet my bike that if the berkinstock group here on the train went to cairo and the other places they riot (like the shit bags they are) to tell those muslims that we don't blame all muslims for their actions...they would end up dead with out a doubt.
some of the folks on the train need to wake up.

Godfather.

:fp: :fp: I don't even know what to say.

aerial wrote:

Godfather you have a point.......


Drownedout

If they are not lumping all Americans together why did they kill the Ambassador and the other three people?

You two just don't get it, do you? By 'they', you mean 'muslims'. 'Muslims' did not kill those people. Individuals did. You love to use the ol' "guns don't kill people, people kill people" line, but fail to see how much more applicable that line is to religion than gun control.
No, godfather doesn't have a point. And I explained why...but why bother to debate my opinion when you can just ignore the other side, right?
I asked you pointed questions at the top of page 16 and you ignored that as well. Why should I humour you with a response then? I will anyway. I asked where you were getting information about the murders. The news reports I've read state that the ambassador's death was more like murder in the third degree (unplanned), than the first. But you might as well ignore that too.
As for motive, you'd have to assume intent...doing so, my response to PJ Soul at the bottom of page 15 addressed that. I will add that, viewed from the 'other side', a US ambassador is not some benevolent bystander. He is an architect of NATO's mission in Libya - pretty obviously a target to people who view their presence as imperialist in nature. I doubt he'd have made it out alive, even if he didn't die of asphyxiation...but with the amount of conflicting information being circulated, it's impossible to know exactly why this happened. My point is that you don't know that it was a religiously motivated attack.

aerial wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

quick thouught for the people saying that we can't lump all muslims togeather....isn't that what muslims all over the world are doing to Americans ? I can almost bet my bike that if the berkinstock group here on the train went to cairo and the other places they riot (like the shit bags they are) to tell those muslims that we don't blame all muslims for their actions...they would end up dead with out a doubt.
some of the folks on the train need to wake up.

Godfather.

We'd have to lump all muslims together in order to answer your question. No, muslims are not doing that to americans all over the world. How do you figure?
Without a doubt, huh? I have a friend who just returned from an around-the-world trip, during which he toured extensively throughout the middle east and (to a lesser extent) north africa...he visited Cairo and particpated in protests in Ramallah (west bank).....and he was greeted with open arms and made a lot of friends doing it.
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It's kinda sad how, whenever you're backed into a corner, you admit that you don't really know what you're talking about, and make some little joke with a smilie, then start it all over again in the next thread....I guess it's better than some who will never admit when they're wrong...but still...you admit that you know you are misinformed by the media, and know nothing about the middle east, yet you have no problem making blanket, hateful comments in regards to it's inhabitants.

And I have a friend at work from Sudan and he is Muslum and we have worked together for 8 years. No Americans have hurt him and we laugh together daily.....what was your point?

that generalizing 1.5 billion people, as godfather did in the post I quoted, is stupid. Your reply above reinforces that. Do you consider your Sudanese friend 'one of them'?