Nothing in Breaking Bad is by accident. I think the most telling thing in the entire episode was when Lydia asked Walt to "swear on his children's lives that he wouldn't harm her". He didn't swear , but I'm starting to buy into thte theories that Holly might be the "unspeakable act" that Gilligan has mentioned.
This was the first episode in the entire series though where I had a problem with one of the details. Walt is always overly picky about "contamination" in his lab. Wouldn't all the dirt that poured into the container during the heist contaminate the methlamyne?
so that episode was the perfect example of why this is the best show on televsion. Vince had said this would be a pivital episode. And he delivered. Incredble use of tension and suspense, only to come out of NOWHERE with the kid in the end.
3 more to go, and i couldnt be happier with this season
I was certain that Walt was going to kill the kid...I thought this was the episode where Vince Gilligan said Walt would do something that we could never forgive. He did vote to kill Lydia though, so maybe that was it? Either way, as soon as we saw the kid and heard the train in the background I knew he was dead..the only shock was that Walt wasn't the one to do it.
why would you listen to what Vince says about upcoming episodes. i too knew this was an episode he said was going to be an Oh My god type episode, but i dont get why people watch previews for upcoming episodes, read tweets by the actors, or listen to podcasts with vince. This show is best when we have no idea whats coming, the end of this episode is a perfect example. I want to be surprised. Leading up to the episode, i dont check google news, i dont read tweets by anyone involved ever, i dont watch upcoming previews, and i dont visit threads like this or elsewhere. I dont want to know about upcoming info. I even refuse to look at the Comcast info that comes up when you click or highlight next weeks episode. Until I see the weeks episode i dont put myself in situations where i could find out what happened. And visiting this board and others like it prior to seeing an episode is a big no no
I think Breaking bad might even be on the cover of Rolling Stone and Paste this week. I refuse to read either. I dont want to even know.
Nothing in Breaking Bad is by accident. I think the most telling thing in the entire episode was when Lydia asked Walt to "swear on his children's lives that he wouldn't harm her". He didn't swear , but I'm starting to buy into thte theories that Holly might be the "unspeakable act" that Gilligan has mentioned.
This was the first episode in the entire series though where I had a problem with one of the details. Walt is always overly picky about "contamination" in his lab. Wouldn't all the dirt that poured into the container during the heist contaminate the methlamyne?
Yeah, I noticed that too about not swearing on the kids. Like you said, Vince doesn't do anything by accident, so it's likely that that conversation serves a purpose. Also, the continued emphasis by Skylar that the kids are not safe and in "danger" (keeping in mind that Heisenberg is the danger) suggests that something is going to happen to the kids (namely Holly).
The only thing that I can think of in regards to the "contamination" is that it supports the transistion from Walt to Heisenberg...Walt represents the chemist side....having everything exact and precise...loving the perfection of each chemical reaction versus Heisenberg is about greed and building an "empire"...he's much more excited about the crazy robbery they just pulled off...just a guess.
Wow. What an episode. The whole heist storyline was so good that I completely forgot about the kid on the dirtbike in the beginning until he appeared again at the end.
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Wow. best show ever, maybe best episode ever. I think the key to last night's episode will be Walt's response to Skyler's "Out burying bodies" query? Walt will regret answering "Robbing a train". The media coverage of the missing boy will be massive, and eventually it will be reported his favorite thing to do is ride his motorbike out by the train tracks. Skyler will suspect Walt's involvement, and I believe that may be what drives Walt to flee to Vermont. Though I guess that's about a year away, since he is there for his 52nd birthday. who knows
Wow. What an episode. The whole heist storyline was so good that I completely forgot about the kid on the dirtbike in the beginning until he appeared again at the end.
i think that was the main point of the opening scene. After all that had happened in episode 4, i found it odd seeing that kid ride his bike, and find a tarantula. Made no sense when i first saw it, and was scratching my head when i saw it. At first i thought he was going to find evidence of the meth lab, or a body or something. The fact he found a tarantula didnt make sense to me. And I believe the majority of the episode, while brilliant, i think it was a ruse, by Vince to get us, the viewers, to forget the opening scene, and then out of nowhere comes this boy again.
Id say its one of the best episodes of the entire series
That opening scene usually sets the tone for the entire episode. Remember in the first or second season when Walt blew up Tuco's headquarters. They showed the place blowing up in the first scene...but you didn't know what it was.
The one thing that puzzled me though: Will the DEA not notice the USB bug on Hank's computer? The picture frame...maybe, but an out-of-place USB cord seems like it would stand out.
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That opening scene usually sets the tone for the entire episode. Remember in the first or second season when Walt blew up Tuco's headquarters. They showed the place blowing up in the first scene...but you didn't know what it was.
The one thing that puzzled me though: Will the DEA not notice the USB bug on Hank's computer? The picture frame...maybe, but an out-of-place USB cord seems like it would stand out.
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good point about the opening scene, but this was something else, something they havent done before, i dont think. If you see a scene of something blowing up, i think that obviously alerts you something is going to happen, that something well...blew up or will. This opening scene though, was just a kid riding on his bike, and finding a tarnantula. Thats why i initially was puzzled about it. We had just had skyler trying to kill herself and the complete dissolution of the walt and skyler marriage, an intense and heated scene where skyler threatens walt and walt threatens her back. And then we start out with a scene that has NOTHING to do with anything. That was the brilliance of it.
I'm not positive...and at the moment can't point out an example...but I think they've done that sort of cold open before. Something that doesn't seem to relate to the rest of the show. Kind of like the eye in the pool after the plane crash in season one.
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I'm not positive...and at the moment can't point out an example...but I think they've done that sort of cold open before. Something that doesn't seem to relate to the rest of the show. Kind of like the eye in the pool after the plane crash in season one.
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The one where the illegals are crossing the border and find Tuco's grill encased in glass was my favorite cold open.
Wow, a freaking train robbery, that was awesome! And I love that it was Jesse's idea. I'm already sad though that I just realized there are only 3 more episodes left this year I can't wait until the Walt & Skylar conflict comes to a breaking point.
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Wow. What an episode. The whole heist storyline was so good that I completely forgot about the kid on the dirtbike in the beginning until he appeared again at the end.
i think that was the main point of the opening scene. After all that had happened in episode 4, i found it odd seeing that kid ride his bike, and find a tarantula. Made no sense when i first saw it, and was scratching my head when i saw it. At first i thought he was going to find evidence of the meth lab, or a body or something. The fact he found a tarantula didnt make sense to me. And I believe the majority of the episode, while brilliant, i think it was a ruse, by Vince to get us, the viewers, to forget the opening scene, and then out of nowhere comes this boy again.
Id say its one of the best episodes of the entire series
They did a damn good job of making you forget that opening scene. Absolutely one of the best episodes of the series. This one won't be coming off the DVR for awhile.
Wow. What an episode. The whole heist storyline was so good that I completely forgot about the kid on the dirtbike in the beginning until he appeared again at the end.
i think that was the main point of the opening scene. After all that had happened in episode 4, i found it odd seeing that kid ride his bike, and find a tarantula. Made no sense when i first saw it, and was scratching my head when i saw it. At first i thought he was going to find evidence of the meth lab, or a body or something. The fact he found a tarantula didnt make sense to me. And I believe the majority of the episode, while brilliant, i think it was a ruse, by Vince to get us, the viewers, to forget the opening scene, and then out of nowhere comes this boy again.
Id say its one of the best episodes of the entire series
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
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Wow. What an episode. The whole heist storyline was so good that I completely forgot about the kid on the dirtbike in the beginning until he appeared again at the end.
i think that was the main point of the opening scene. After all that had happened in episode 4, i found it odd seeing that kid ride his bike, and find a tarantula. Made no sense when i first saw it, and was scratching my head when i saw it. At first i thought he was going to find evidence of the meth lab, or a body or something. The fact he found a tarantula didnt make sense to me. And I believe the majority of the episode, while brilliant, i think it was a ruse, by Vince to get us, the viewers, to forget the opening scene, and then out of nowhere comes this boy again.
Id say its one of the best episodes of the entire series
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
To each their own, and i completley understand the desire to find out what happens next, im chomping at the bit for next week. But it seems crazy to watch the previews. I avoid them like the plague, and plan on doing so for the next 3 episodes and beyond into next year. I try to even avoid AMC's website. And i refuse to go to threads like this too late in the day on Sunday, The power of the episode, and the final scene, was crucial to the fact that you didnt know how the thing would end. I personally breathed a huge sigh of relief as the train passed over jessie, and they were all high fiving and cheering. The idea that a kid would be watching then wasnt even on the radar for me, and of course their reaction to seeing the kid, and what Todd did to the kid, was just absolutely shocking and insane. Knowing what was going to happen, i think, for me, would have killed alot of the enjoyment of it. This show, maybe more than any other show on tv right now, thrives on the idea of a thrill a minute, edge of your seat, jaw dropping scenes and events happening. All i knew about the episode prior to seeing it, was that someone had mentioned Vince's podcast prior to the episode, where he said this would be a Holy Crap type episode. I got goosebumps as that final scene happened, and jumped out of my seat.
But yeah, I know people on here and elsewhere post interviews with the crew, and vince and tweets from Aaron about the show. Vince and everyone else has talked about , in some manner, sort of where this season was headed, but I really have tried to avoid it.
That final scene to me was a combination of jaw drop plus cringe. I had a feeling that helper guy was going to cause some trouble. Didn't know what, but I felt that a new guy was going to get killed, screw up, kill someone he shouldn't, get caught....something.
Trouble is brewing...
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
This is why you should never watch the trailer for next week's episode
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
This is why you should never watch the trailer for next week's episode
But it's so hard not to...I'm going to try to be good the rest of the season... :shifty:
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
This is why you should never watch the trailer for next week's episode
But it's so hard not to...I'm going to try to be good the rest of the season... :shifty:
I never watch the "on the next episode..." teaser for any of the shows I watch
how often do you guys think, that in real life, a situation like the one that ended episode 5, happens? I think, sadly it happens way too often, but just is never reported or people just dont know. I think probably people do happen on drug deals, or illegal activity, and are killed as a result. And there really is no way to tell that they died as a result of that, of knowing too much. Obviously the police are going to probably come to conclusions, in real life cases, that either the person was murdered, but they'd never pick up on that they were killed for knowing too much, or the body is never found, and the person stays missing for decades.
I think people are killed for knowing too much way too often.
probably happens all the time.
not to mention, you'll hear about a body turning up, or someone dying, but then they never follow up on the story in the local news... if its not a big deal running in the national headlines, it sometimes just fades away.
I wonder why Walt just doesnt move out. Go back to the condo if he didnt sell it already or just find another place. They cant just let the kids stay with Hank forever... especially if they are together trying to work things out. It just looks weird and they're gonna start to wonder whats going on.
Its gonna feel like such a long time in between episodes once this first part of the season is over. Im thinking I'll re-watch the entire series during the break.
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Its gonna feel like such a long time in between episodes once this first part of the season is over. Im thinking I'll re-watch the entire series during the break.
I don't think it's coming back until next June/July. A pretty long break.
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I wonder why Walt just doesnt move out. Go back to the condo if he didnt sell it already or just find another place. They cant just let the kids stay with Hank forever... especially if they are together trying to work things out. It just looks weird and they're gonna start to wonder whats going on.
I think he doesn't move out because he is Heisenberg. He was a quiet guy and dominated by his wife and family for most of his marriage, and now he's taken charge (albeit in a pretty horrendous way) and he likes the feeling. He's staying because he CAN stay.
Its gonna feel like such a long time in between episodes once this first part of the season is over. Im thinking I'll re-watch the entire series during the break.
I read (maybe in the Rolling Stone article) that they won't start filming the second half until November or December.
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I think he doesn't move out because he is Heisenberg. He was a quiet guy and dominated by his wife and family for most of his marriage, and now he's taken charge (albeit in a pretty horrendous way) and he likes the feeling. He's staying because he CAN stay.
Exactly. He's staying because there is nothing Skylar can do about it since she is pretty involved with this whole thing too with the money laundering. If she tries to take him down, then she's going down too.
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This was the first episode in the entire series though where I had a problem with one of the details. Walt is always overly picky about "contamination" in his lab. Wouldn't all the dirt that poured into the container during the heist contaminate the methlamyne?
3 more to go, and i couldnt be happier with this season
why would you listen to what Vince says about upcoming episodes. i too knew this was an episode he said was going to be an Oh My god type episode, but i dont get why people watch previews for upcoming episodes, read tweets by the actors, or listen to podcasts with vince. This show is best when we have no idea whats coming, the end of this episode is a perfect example. I want to be surprised. Leading up to the episode, i dont check google news, i dont read tweets by anyone involved ever, i dont watch upcoming previews, and i dont visit threads like this or elsewhere. I dont want to know about upcoming info. I even refuse to look at the Comcast info that comes up when you click or highlight next weeks episode. Until I see the weeks episode i dont put myself in situations where i could find out what happened. And visiting this board and others like it prior to seeing an episode is a big no no
I think Breaking bad might even be on the cover of Rolling Stone and Paste this week. I refuse to read either. I dont want to even know.
Yeah, I noticed that too about not swearing on the kids. Like you said, Vince doesn't do anything by accident, so it's likely that that conversation serves a purpose. Also, the continued emphasis by Skylar that the kids are not safe and in "danger" (keeping in mind that Heisenberg is the danger) suggests that something is going to happen to the kids (namely Holly).
The only thing that I can think of in regards to the "contamination" is that it supports the transistion from Walt to Heisenberg...Walt represents the chemist side....having everything exact and precise...loving the perfection of each chemical reaction versus Heisenberg is about greed and building an "empire"...he's much more excited about the crazy robbery they just pulled off...just a guess.
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i think that was the main point of the opening scene. After all that had happened in episode 4, i found it odd seeing that kid ride his bike, and find a tarantula. Made no sense when i first saw it, and was scratching my head when i saw it. At first i thought he was going to find evidence of the meth lab, or a body or something. The fact he found a tarantula didnt make sense to me. And I believe the majority of the episode, while brilliant, i think it was a ruse, by Vince to get us, the viewers, to forget the opening scene, and then out of nowhere comes this boy again.
Id say its one of the best episodes of the entire series
The one thing that puzzled me though: Will the DEA not notice the USB bug on Hank's computer? The picture frame...maybe, but an out-of-place USB cord seems like it would stand out.
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good point about the opening scene, but this was something else, something they havent done before, i dont think. If you see a scene of something blowing up, i think that obviously alerts you something is going to happen, that something well...blew up or will. This opening scene though, was just a kid riding on his bike, and finding a tarnantula. Thats why i initially was puzzled about it. We had just had skyler trying to kill herself and the complete dissolution of the walt and skyler marriage, an intense and heated scene where skyler threatens walt and walt threatens her back. And then we start out with a scene that has NOTHING to do with anything. That was the brilliance of it.
wow, i missed that he put a bug on a usb cord.
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The one where the illegals are crossing the border and find Tuco's grill encased in glass was my favorite cold open.
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They did a damn good job of making you forget that opening scene. Absolutely one of the best episodes of the series. This one won't be coming off the DVR for awhile.
It was very different for me. I saw the preview for this week's episode that aired last week so I knew this episode would include some kind of heist. I didn't know what was going on when it started, but at the end of the teaser, when the kid heard the train I knew it was going to end with him being killed for seeing something he should not have.
To each their own, and i completley understand the desire to find out what happens next, im chomping at the bit for next week. But it seems crazy to watch the previews. I avoid them like the plague, and plan on doing so for the next 3 episodes and beyond into next year. I try to even avoid AMC's website. And i refuse to go to threads like this too late in the day on Sunday, The power of the episode, and the final scene, was crucial to the fact that you didnt know how the thing would end. I personally breathed a huge sigh of relief as the train passed over jessie, and they were all high fiving and cheering. The idea that a kid would be watching then wasnt even on the radar for me, and of course their reaction to seeing the kid, and what Todd did to the kid, was just absolutely shocking and insane. Knowing what was going to happen, i think, for me, would have killed alot of the enjoyment of it. This show, maybe more than any other show on tv right now, thrives on the idea of a thrill a minute, edge of your seat, jaw dropping scenes and events happening. All i knew about the episode prior to seeing it, was that someone had mentioned Vince's podcast prior to the episode, where he said this would be a Holy Crap type episode. I got goosebumps as that final scene happened, and jumped out of my seat.
But yeah, I know people on here and elsewhere post interviews with the crew, and vince and tweets from Aaron about the show. Vince and everyone else has talked about , in some manner, sort of where this season was headed, but I really have tried to avoid it.
Trouble is brewing...
This is why you should never watch the trailer for next week's episode
But it's so hard not to...I'm going to try to be good the rest of the season... :shifty:
I never watch the "on the next episode..." teaser for any of the shows I watch
I think people are killed for knowing too much way too often.
not to mention, you'll hear about a body turning up, or someone dying, but then they never follow up on the story in the local news... if its not a big deal running in the national headlines, it sometimes just fades away.
I wonder why Walt just doesnt move out. Go back to the condo if he didnt sell it already or just find another place. They cant just let the kids stay with Hank forever... especially if they are together trying to work things out. It just looks weird and they're gonna start to wonder whats going on.
Its gonna feel like such a long time in between episodes once this first part of the season is over. Im thinking I'll re-watch the entire series during the break.
I don't think it's coming back until next June/July. A pretty long break.
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I think he doesn't move out because he is Heisenberg. He was a quiet guy and dominated by his wife and family for most of his marriage, and now he's taken charge (albeit in a pretty horrendous way) and he likes the feeling. He's staying because he CAN stay.
I read (maybe in the Rolling Stone article) that they won't start filming the second half until November or December.
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Exactly. He's staying because there is nothing Skylar can do about it since she is pretty involved with this whole thing too with the money laundering. If she tries to take him down, then she's going down too.
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