Charlie Manson still alive....wow

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edited April 2012 in A Moving Train
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    "He looks a lot different," department of corrections spokeswoman Terry Thornton said.

    Well duh...dude's been in prison for what, 40+ years now?

    Still got those crazy eyes.

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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Weird he almost looks more like an emaciated Saddam Hussein than an old Manson.
  • tybird
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    Charlie don't surf
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Parole hearing! And Connecticut just outlawed the death penalty. :roll:
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  • Bronx Bombers
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    How many millions of dollars has it cost taxpayers to keep this piece of shit alive?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    How many millions of dollars has it cost taxpayers to keep this piece of shit alive?


    BINGO !!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER !
    I was wondering the same thing.


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  • Cosmo
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    Godfather. wrote:
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    How many millions of dollars has it cost taxpayers to keep this piece of shit alive?

    BINGO !!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER !
    I was wondering the same thing.

    Godfather.
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    There are two sides to each arguement.
    Decide for yourself (based upon realities, rather than gut feelings):
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    There are two sides to each arguement.
    Decide for yourself (based upon realities, rather than gut feelings):
    http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000

    Seems like most of the extra costs related to the death penalty are in the cases being tied up in appeals that have nothing to do with proving the innocence of the convicted; rather they are just looking for some technicality.

    Get rid of that and next thing you know we're Norway; 23 years for killing 80 people.
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  • Bronx Bombers
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Parole hearing! And Connecticut just outlawed the death penalty. :roll:

    The repeal won't affect the 11 inmates currently on death row which means those two fucking animals who raped and murdered the Petit family will get the justice they deserve. 
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Parole hearing! And Connecticut just outlawed the death penalty. :roll:

    The repeal won't affect the 11 inmates currently on death row which means those two fucking animals who raped and murdered the Petit family will get the justice they deserve. 

    We'll see...
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  • pandora
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...


    Get rid of that and next thing you know we're Norway; 23 years for killing 80 people.
    I questioned this and looked it up ... you are correct, I am shocked.

    I read an article about their laws and this quote was in closing ...

    None of this is likely to matter to Norwegians, or to most Europeans now. “Even if a lot of people think 21 years is too little, in Scandinavian countries it’s deeply ingrained that criminals should have a second chance in society,” says Geir Ruud, the Norwegian editor of Ekstra Bladet, a Danish newspaper. “These are the values all those kids who were killed believed in, and the values Breivik fought against. If we let his crime change our societies, then he will have won.”



    this the interesting article comparing countries
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... years.html
    hope the Daily Beast is acceptable

    and yes Charlie still has those same crazy ass eyes ... windows to the soul

    I am glad he did not walk free in 21 years :?
  • keeponrockin
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    pandora wrote:
    I questioned this and looked it up ... you are correct, I am shocked.

    I read an article about their laws and this quote was in closing ...

    None of this is likely to matter to Norwegians, or to most Europeans now. “Even if a lot of people think 21 years is too little, in Scandinavian countries it’s deeply ingrained that criminals should have a second chance in society,” says Geir Ruud, the Norwegian editor of Ekstra Bladet, a Danish newspaper. “These are the values all those kids who were killed believed in, and the values Breivik fought against. If we let his crime change our societies, then he will have won.”



    this the interesting article comparing countries
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... years.html
    hope the Daily Beast is acceptable

    and yes Charlie still has those same crazy ass eyes ... windows to the soul

    I am glad he did not walk free in 21 years :?
    Norway's handling of the entire situation is stunning. Strong country, holding onto their values in the face of what was (by % of population) a more deadly attack on the conutry than 9/11 was for the United States.
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  • pandora
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    keeponrockin wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I questioned this and looked it up ... you are correct, I am shocked.

    I read an article about their laws and this quote was in closing ...

    None of this is likely to matter to Norwegians, or to most Europeans now. “Even if a lot of people think 21 years is too little, in Scandinavian countries it’s deeply ingrained that criminals should have a second chance in society,” says Geir Ruud, the Norwegian editor of Ekstra Bladet, a Danish newspaper. “These are the values all those kids who were killed believed in, and the values Breivik fought against. If we let his crime change our societies, then he will have won.”



    this the interesting article comparing countries
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... years.html
    hope the Daily Beast is acceptable

    and yes Charlie still has those same crazy ass eyes ... windows to the soul

    I am glad he did not walk free in 21 years :?
    Norway's handling of the entire situation is stunning. Strong country, holding onto their values in the face of what was (by % of population) a more deadly attack on the conutry than 9/11 was for the United States.
    I agree

    you can't cure crazy ass though so I hope Anders Behring Breivik is all they will know of this
    for a very long time
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    pandora wrote:
    this the interesting article comparing countries
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... years.html
    hope the Daily Beast is acceptable

    Why wouldn't it be?

    21 years - I was too high.

    Banned the death penalty in 1902. Wow.
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  • Byrnzie
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    One of the best books I ever read was Charles Manson in his own words.

    Let's you see you through all the sensationalist media bullshit surrounding his case for what it really was. Oh, and in case you didn't know; he never killed anyone. And he isn't the devil.

    Anyway...
  • hedonist
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    I don't doubt the book was fascinating (and good on him that he had the freedom to write a book while in prison. Amazing).

    Yes, he didn't literally kill anyone.

    Poor guy.

    Sorry, Charlie!

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  • Newch91
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    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Parole hearing! And Connecticut just outlawed the death penalty. :roll:

    The repeal won't affect the 11 inmates currently on death row which means those two fucking animals who raped and murdered the Petit family will get the justice they deserve. 
    Those two need to fucking rot in hell. It has cost the state so much money keeping those two alive. They need to be put to death already.
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  • Newch91
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Parole hearing! And Connecticut just outlawed the death penalty. :roll:

    The repeal won't affect the 11 inmates currently on death row which means those two fucking animals who raped and murdered the Petit family will get the justice they deserve. 

    We'll see...
    It's not going to affect the people who are already on death row.
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  • Byrnzie
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    Newch91 wrote:
    Those two need to fucking rot in hell. It has cost the state so much money keeping those two alive. They need to be put to death already.

    Seeing as you mention 'hell', I take it you believe in the teachings of the Bible?

    I have a question for you: Do you think Jesus would support the death penalty? Do you think he'd support the snuffing out of two lives in order simply to satisfy the blood lust of a few brainless individuals?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Isn't the test of any society to not be swayed by even the sickest of crimes and to resist bloodlust?

    Or should society repeatedly sink to the level of the people it condemns, by killing them, thereby perpetuating the violence?

    Should society not function on a level of morality above that of murderers?

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