THE WALKING DEAD...and all things zombie

I'm starting to like not knowing.

The characters don't know either _ we're all in the dark together.

Except of course, we have the advantage of a view from a boom, so we can see that herd heading right for Rick and Carl.

rrivers wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

first off..the acting is great

We will just have to agree to disagree there.

Uh-oh.

This is how Rick and Shane started off, agreeing to disagree with smilies.

Next thing you know, neilybabes and rrivers will be giving each other long, baleful stares.

Then they'll be duking it out in a parking lot.

And then finally... one of them becomes a zombie.

unlost dogs wrote:

rrivers wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

first off..the acting is great

We will just have to agree to disagree there.

Uh-oh.

This is how Rick and Shane started off, agreeing to disagree with smilies.

Next thing you know, neilybabes and rrivers will be giving each other long, baleful stares.

Then they'll be duking it out in a parking lot.

And then finally... one of them becomes a zombie.

That just begs the question, which one of them is going to knock-up the other's wife/girlfriend?

Hmmmm. Neily has that scrappy NYC thing going for him.

But there's no discounting rrivers' persistance and courage of conviction.

I'm thinking Neily does the knocking up, and rrivers ends up on the right side of the knife.

unlost dogs wrote:

rrivers wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

first off..the acting is great

We will just have to agree to disagree there.

Uh-oh.

This is how Rick and Shane started off, agreeing to disagree with smilies.

Next thing you know, neilybabes and rrivers will be giving each other long, baleful stares.

Then they'll be duking it out in a parking lot.

And then finally... one of them becomes a zombie.

Neily just has to realize I am in charge and follow my lead...and stay away from my wife and son!!!!

SatansFuton wrote:

unlost dogs wrote:

Hmmmm. Neily has that scrappy NYC thing going for him.

But there's no discounting rrivers' persistance and courage of conviction.

I'm thinking Neily does the knocking up, and rrivers ends up on the right side of the knife.

Can I be Carl?

No one is supervising you, so yeah!

rrivers wrote:

Glad you like it. I think those of us who are down on this season aren't asking for 60 minutes of zombies, but the show is called The Walking Dead so we would like more of it. I wouldn't even mind going away from the zombies if the humans were more interesting, the writing was better, or the acting was better. Since it's not, give me more zombies!

This is not a dig at you, but this defense of "the show is not about <blank>, it's about <blank>" happens quite a bit as a defense of a show when others think it has gone downhill. I remember the Lost creators used that when people complained at the end saying "the show is not about the mysteries and the questions (they continued to throw out there and never really answered), it's about the characters". Ok, well make the characters more interesting. But in reality most people were watching for the mysteries.

I don't disagree with you that the show is about human survival, but make the storylines and the writing better when you go away from the zombies. They also need to make things clearer, especially things that are essential to the show like how one becomes a zombie. I have had and heard (one on Howard Stern this morning) a few conversations this week about why Shane became a zombie. Something this essential to the show should not be so vague. And with all the plot holes others have pointed out in this thread, it's hard for me to take it seriously as a character-driven show. But again, that's fine, just give me a zombie show!

I'm glad you're enjoying it and hope it does get better next season because I'm sure I will still be watching!

I actually think the title isn't what you think it is. I think The Walking Dead refers to the characters, not the zombies.

I can't agree more about Lost. I was more annoyed with that show than anything, but it was a "must finish this" type of scenario. I hated when there were more questions than answers, and it stayed that way even after the series was over. I think what's in my corner on this is that I'm not a big fan of the zombie genre, so I'm ok with not a lot of zombie stuff. And I think not knowing how one becomes a zombie is a huge plot twist that's going to come up. I think they've done a great job hinting at it, and now showing how it happens. I think we're going to find out for sure at the finale.

I also don't get the complaints about the acting. What's wrong with the acting?

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

rrivers wrote:

Glad you like it. I think those of us who are down on this season aren't asking for 60 minutes of zombies, but the show is called The Walking Dead so we would like more of it. I wouldn't even mind going away from the zombies if the humans were more interesting, the writing was better, or the acting was better. Since it's not, give me more zombies!

This is not a dig at you, but this defense of "the show is not about <blank>, it's about <blank>" happens quite a bit as a defense of a show when others think it has gone downhill. I remember the Lost creators used that when people complained at the end saying "the show is not about the mysteries and the questions (they continued to throw out there and never really answered), it's about the characters". Ok, well make the characters more interesting. But in reality most people were watching for the mysteries.

I don't disagree with you that the show is about human survival, but make the storylines and the writing better when you go away from the zombies. They also need to make things clearer, especially things that are essential to the show like how one becomes a zombie. I have had and heard (one on Howard Stern this morning) a few conversations this week about why Shane became a zombie. Something this essential to the show should not be so vague. And with all the plot holes others have pointed out in this thread, it's hard for me to take it seriously as a character-driven show. But again, that's fine, just give me a zombie show!

I'm glad you're enjoying it and hope it does get better next season because I'm sure I will still be watching!

I actually think the title isn't what you think it is. I think The Walking Dead refers to the characters, not the zombies.

I can't agree more about Lost. I was more annoyed with that show than anything, but it was a "must finish this" type of scenario. I hated when there were more questions than answers, and it stayed that way even after the series was over. I think what's in my corner on this is that I'm not a big fan of the zombie genre, so I'm ok with not a lot of zombie stuff. And I think not knowing how one becomes a zombie is a huge plot twist that's going to come up. I think they've done a great job hinting at it, and now showing how it happens. I think we're going to find out for sure at the finale.

I also don't get the complaints about the acting. What's wrong with the acting?

Fair enough. I don't think the title refers to the characters, but if you do that's fine. Based on my thoughts about the rest of the show, I don't think it was thought about that deeply. I haven't read the comic, but I don't imagine the title was meant to refer to the still alive characters. To me, it just seems like a show about zombies, nothing too deep. And as I keep saying, go ahead! Make the show about zombies! That's why I started watching in the first place! (Actually, that's not completely true and I am pretty much over the whole zombie genre. The main reason I started watching it was because Darabont was running it and the first season gave me a high quality show that I have come to expect from him ( ie Shawshank, The Mist, etc.)

Glad to hear we at least agree on "Lost". That show ruined me for any show where they even hint at a mystery. Nope, not getting involved after that train wreck.

You might be right about how you actually become a zombie being a big plot twist or something that will be explained later. I thought someone else made a good point about us as viewers are following along with the characters because they don't know and we don't know. To me, this and other plot problems people in this thread have pointed out don't come off to me like there is a grand plan where things will be explained later but that they are just plot holes that weren't worked out by the writers. I feel by this time in the show we should know definitively if everyone who dies becomes a zombie or if you need to be biten. I talked with a friend about this and he read the comic. He told me he "assumes any recently dead person becomes a zombie and Dale didn't because they shot him in the head". Makes sense, but they didn't shoot Dale in the head to stop him from becoming a zombie, I took it that they shot him to put him out of his misery. But I have come across enough people who are questioning how one becomes a zombie that it seems to be a problem for more than me.

The Shane-turning-into-a-zombie felt like they wanted to surprise us and have Carl (Satansfuton) shoot him for the drama of it. It felt cheap to me, like it wasn't earned because we (maybe I should just say I) didn't know Shane was going to turn. Neither did the sherif, who I can't even remember his name.

Basically what this all boils down to for me, is I don't want to be watching the show and have something come up that takes me out of the story where I am questioning whether it makes sense. I understand we have to suspend disbelief (it's a zombie show for crying out loud!), but I'm talking about making sense within the confines of the universe they have created. This is my problem with the acting. I don't need the Royal Shakespeare company just some competent actors who, again, don't take me out of watching the show with how poorly I deem their acting. I find Shane, the sheriff, and Lori (the sheriff's wife) to be especially bad.

Thanks for the debate!

I'm pretty sure on one of the Talking Dead episodes, a producer or director said the title refers to the people still alive.