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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    IamMine wrote:
    Per 10c at http://forums.pearljam.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=3503686:

    Reselling Ten Club tickets for above face value will result in the revocation of all future ticket privileges.





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    you dont think i knew this when i joined the 10c
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Truth Machine
    Truth Machine Posts: 113
    For the record I should say that I have never sold tickets on eBay or any place else. I am a long standing 10C member with killer seats every night.
    "I'd like to thank all you mother fuckers. All you mother fuckers..." EV-10/03/05
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Truth Machine wrote:
    No, I can read just fine. I'm simply saying that you have yet to give me a reason that I would care if someone sells tickets on eBay. Try again.

    haha
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Getting seats in the 1st, 1st, 5th, 5th and 2nd rows this tour is a treat for $20.......it amounts to $2 extra per ticket, and I don't have to worry about getting the tix thru ticketmaster.

    In this case, we need to show concern over other's actions......a few bad apples can spoil it for the masses.

    No one is saying they are perfect...they are merely pointing out that someone is acting contrary to club policy, which obviously isn't a life/death situation, however, it is something that could effect 10C ticketing in the future.

    There is nothing wrong with worrying about other's actions if you are effected by said actions.

    Worrying about peoples private lives and invading other's privacy is what is fucked up with society, but self-policing is needed by society at times!

    It's not a treat, it's a service, no matter what the cost.

    Pearl Jam does not pay me, nor do they provde some service in trade for me being their police force.

    Theres much more important things to worry about than who sells tickets where.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Truth Machine wrote:
    For the record I should say that I have never sold tickets on eBay or any place else. I am a long standing 10C member with killer seats every night.


    I second that.

    But I could care less with what someone else does with their tickets in their supposed home town.
  • StateOfLoveBoatCptn.
    StateOfLoveBoatCptn. Posts: 904
    SonicReducr wrote:
    Why might we lose it? I thought the 10 clubbers had a say?

    Oh, that's right... you don't... you are paying for a service... they set the rules

    lol
    well put.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    SonicReducr wrote:
    Why might we lose it? I thought the 10 clubbers had a say?

    Oh, that's right... you don't... you are paying for a service... they set the rules

    lol
    You two just don't get it. You're either joking or seriously imparied. No use arguing with you either way.
  • Truth Machine
    Truth Machine Posts: 113
    Another Internet victory. Al Gore would be proud of this.
    "I'd like to thank all you mother fuckers. All you mother fuckers..." EV-10/03/05
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    SonicReducr wrote:
    Theres much more important things to worry about than who sells tickets where.
    Yeah, like defending scalpers and arguing with those of us who want to keep 10c as clean and pure as possible, right?
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    don't gimme no wrote:
    You two just don't get it. You're either joking or seriously imparied. No use arguing with you either way.


    I "get" what you are saying. I just don't live in a la la dream world where a group of 5 rich guys give a shit about me.

    I pay for music. They provide music. That's a business deal. They make money off of us, so I could care less if someone makes money off them. I buy my tickets and go to the shows... that's the end of my concern.

    If they truely lived by their punk ethos, maybe I would have a different opinion. But punk ethos don't allow for AOL Sessions, Storytellers, etc.... lasers, over priced tickets, over priced merch, over priced bootlegs.

    Even Jeff said he wanted to make money. (like he is poor... oh poor Jeff, boo hoo)

    My beef isn't with them making money... I am fine with that. I just think it's funny that you all don't see it.

    Susan Silver said Pearl Jam's gimmick trying not to have a gimmick... and you all bought in to it.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    SonicReducr wrote:
    I "get" what you are saying. I just don't live in a la la dream world where a group of 5 rich guys give a shit about me.

    I pay for music. They provide music. That's a business deal. They make money off of us, so I could care less if someone makes money off them. I buy my tickets and go to the shows... that's the end of my concern.

    If they truely lived by their punk ethos, maybe I would have a different opinion. But punk ethos don't allow for AOL Sessions, Storytellers, etc.... lasers, over priced tickets, over priced merch, over priced bootlegs.

    Even Jeff said he wanted to make money. (like he is poor... oh poor Jeff, boo hoo)

    My beef isn't with them making money... I am fine with that. I just think it's funny that you all don't see it.

    Susan Silver said Pearl Jam's gimmick trying not to have a gimmick... and you all bought in to it.
    best post ever
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Yefa
    Yefa Posts: 1,134
    Truth Machine wrote:
    For the record I should say that I have never sold tickets on eBay or any place else. I am a long standing 10C member with killer seats every night.

    You are in a great position yet you still don't see how you could be negatively affected by 10c members who scalp their tickets? Let me spell it out for you.

    10c members scalp more and more of their tickets.
    10c staff notices this and informs the band.
    The band gets pissed off.
    10c no longer sells tickets to Pearl Jam shows.
    You are back online with every other fan trying to get tickets through Ticketmaster.

    Now do you understand the issue as it can affect honest 10c members?
    You see me empty, Sir, do not pause and inquire, simply assume and refill.
    - Al Swearengen

    http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Yefa wrote:
    You are in a great position yet you still don't see how you could be negatively affected by 10c members who scalp their tickets? Let me spell it out for you.

    10c members scalp more and more of their tickets.
    10c staff notices this and informs the band.
    The band gets pissed off.
    10c no longer sells tickets to Pearl Jam shows.
    You are back online with every other fan trying to get tickets through Ticketmaster.

    Now do you understand the issue as it can affect honest 10c members?

    "The band gets pissed off"

    First off, the band isn't going to stop TC seats. That's where they make their money with people who go to many shows.

    They would be back to playing theaters if it weren't for the 10C.

    The 10C tickets aren't going anywhere.
  • Truth Machine
    Truth Machine Posts: 113
    Yefa wrote:
    You are in a great position yet you still don't see how you could be negatively affected by 10c members who scalp their tickets? Let me spell it out for you.

    10c members scalp more and more of their tickets.
    10c staff notices this and informs the band.
    The band gets pissed off.
    10c no longer sells tickets to Pearl Jam shows.
    You are back online with every other fan trying to get tickets through Ticketmaster.

    Now do you understand the issue as it can affect honest 10c members?

    Again, you have failed to supply a reason as to WHY I WOULD CARE if someone sells tickets. Thanks for playing.
    "I'd like to thank all you mother fuckers. All you mother fuckers..." EV-10/03/05
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    SonicReducr wrote:
    I "get" what you are saying. I just don't live in a la la dream world where a group of 5 rich guys give a shit about me.

    I pay for music. They provide music. That's a business deal. They make money off of us, so I could care less if someone makes money off them. I buy my tickets and go to the shows... that's the end of my concern.

    If they truely lived by their punk ethos, maybe I would have a different opinion. But punk ethos don't allow for AOL Sessions, Storytellers, etc.... lasers, over priced tickets, over priced merch, over priced bootlegs.

    Even Jeff said he wanted to make money. (like he is poor... oh poor Jeff, boo hoo)

    My beef isn't with them making money... I am fine with that. I just think it's funny that you all don't see it.

    Susan Silver said Pearl Jam's gimmick trying not to have a gimmick... and you all bought in to it.

    You'd do well to read this thread http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=205721&highlight=fugazi+eddie It's a blurb by Ian McKaye of Fugazi, who Ed has praised as one of his heroes. If you don't think this band cares about us then we need to call in an exorcist because you're way too lost for any of us to help you.
  • StateOfLoveBoatCptn.
    StateOfLoveBoatCptn. Posts: 904
    what about pro sports season ticket holders selling their tickets for higher prices. happens all the time. don't really think that it will end all season ticket sales, just as one guy selling his 10c tickets won't stop 10c ticket sales. Most people in the 10c I'm sure go to the shows, so this isn't a problem. I know that if I couldn't get 10c tix, and someone was selling them for a price I'd pay, I'd be happy they were available. I'm a fan. I want to see the band. Plain and simple.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    don't gimme no wrote:
    You'd do well to read this thread http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=205721&highlight=fugazi+eddie It's a blurb by Ian McKaye of Fugazi, who Ed has praised as one of his heroes. If you don't think this band cares about us then we need to call in an exorcist because you're way too lost for any of us to help you.


    I am more than aware of who Ian is, since he is a local fixture in this town. That doesn't change the fact that Pearl Jam nor Ed give a shit about me.

    Ian, the other older school punk guys... they get it. They live it. Ian lives in a small house in Mt Pleasant, and still uses his mothers address for the Dischord label... He gets it.

    I saw Ian at the Pearl Jam show, he and his girlfriend Amy Farina (who is in the Evens with Ian, and was in a band called the Warmers, also on Dischord) were there and were side stage. Doesn't mean Ed gives a fuck about me.

    His sister runs http://www.fortreno.com, which are a local series of free shows. They get it.

    Pearl Jam.. are a corporate rock band, plain and simple. Ed and goo and gaa over Ian and all the other punks as much as he likes... but gooing and gaaing about punk ethos, are not the same as living punk ethos.

    When PJ get off the private jet, when they lower ticket prices (which is easy to do, take less of a cut Mr. Millionare Vedder), when they lower merch, when they take advantage of technology to distribute bootlegs instead of selling them (or at least sell them for a decent rate, a double disc Fugazi record is 10 bucks, postage paid)... then I will listen to him rant about punk ethos and take him seriously.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    SonicReducr wrote:
    "The band gets pissed off"

    First off, the band isn't going to stop TC seats. That's where they make their money with people who go to many shows.

    They would be back to playing theaters if it weren't for the 10C.

    The 10C tickets aren't going anywhere.
    Easily the most idiotic post I've ever seen in my life. Pearl Jam can sell out damn near anywhere they choose. I for one would see just as many shows as I do now even if 10C didn't exist. It's sad that you can't realize this is about music. Sure, I love my 10C seats and I'm very grateful for them. I do see it as generosity from the band. But to be honest, once the show starts I don't care where I am as long as I'm in the building. I'm certainly not seeing more shows based on my seats. I love this band and I love their music and even if you refuse to believe it, they love us too. I fucking met them two years ago and had long converstations with some of them. They care about us and want to do what they can for us. It is absolutely NOT about money.
  • Yefa
    Yefa Posts: 1,134
    Truth Machine wrote:
    Again, you have failed to supply a reason as to WHY I WOULD CARE if someone sells tickets. Thanks for playing.

    You really wouldn't care having to fight for halfway decent tickets for any Pearl Jam show on Ticketmaster? Well you are a strange 10c member indeed. Most of us would care very much, I can guarantee you that.
    You see me empty, Sir, do not pause and inquire, simply assume and refill.
    - Al Swearengen

    http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
  • Mickey1794
    Mickey1794 Posts: 104
    You know what is so interesting about Sonic Reducr's posts is that he never went to a PJ concert until 2000 so he doesn't even know what we true PJ fans had to go through to get tickets back in the early days. Too say that PJ is a corporate band is so cynical and ignorant that its actually funny. This last album has had the most commercialization since the band came out-and I believe its because they want more exposure to spread some knowledge about the political situation of our country today-not to make money. If you ever been to Eddie's town its not like if your in Beverly Hills. Granted I'm sure he lives a nice life but he should reap the benefits of his success. I know that he deserves to be where he's at because of hard work and all the help he's given to his fans by always being there for them with all the great music he keeps coming out with. Besides the benefits we get from 10C are amazing. You could never get those benefits frm the U2 or RHCP club especially for 20 bucks!
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