So is Eli better than Peyton?

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:
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  • 81
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    The Juggler wrote:
    81 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    let's be honest, if welker catches that ball, the pats win last night...

    i don't know that. it's not like it was a dropped TD. they would have been in better shape

    it would have given them a first down, in field goal range, already up 2 with 4 minutes to go.

    hmm..i was thinking a drop on teh last drive....but yeah...make a catch...run some clock...kick a fg...win.

    either way...glad he dropped it. :lol:
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited February 2012
    Newch91 wrote:
    Can the same question be asked if he's better than Brees and Rodgers?

    :lol: If you're saying he's that close to Peyton, then it doesn't need to be asked.
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    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:

    agreed. he was a fine qb, but he had a killer D and a run game. he's like a trent dilfer with multiple blessings.
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    DewieCox wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Can the same question be asked if he's better than Brees and Rodgers?

    :lol: If you're saying he's that close to Peyton, then it doesn't need to be asked.
    Ring wise, yes. ;)
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  • Horos
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    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:
    Had to slip that in there. ;)
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    81 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:

    agreed. he was a fine qb, but he had a killer D and a run game. he's like a trent dilfer with multiple blessings.

    the trent dilfer thing is spot on. its like trent dilfer qb'ing that ravens team before the free agency age. :lol:

    ...well not quite, but i think we're on the same page
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  • mickeyrat
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    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:
    four , count em FOUR fucking SB rings. in FOUR count em FOUR appearances.
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  • The Juggler
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    mickeyrat wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:
    four , count em FOUR fucking SB rings. in FOUR count em FOUR appearances.




    how many?
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  • mickeyrat
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    The Juggler wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:
    four , count em FOUR fucking SB rings. in FOUR count em FOUR appearances.




    how many?
    umm, i think its four. Terry Bradshaw and company had 4 shots at a title and came away with 4 count em FOUR rings. But it was a team sport then. You know , with both an offense of 11 guys on the field and a defense of 11 guys.


    I'd like to see Brady play as quarterack in the same league that Rothlesberger plays in. Tou know, the one that allows cheap ass shots taken at the QB?
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  • BinFrog
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    DewieCox wrote:
    The first SB win is definitely a farce. Without the coaching and d that he's had he's probably ringless.


    Let's not forget he won all 3 without a big name receiver.
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  • BinFrog
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    Newch91 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    Peyton lost two?
    Peyton lost 1. Went to the Super Bowl twice.



    Yes, that was an incorrect post on my part.
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  • maj4e
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    JK_Livin wrote:
    It's all subjective. Is Eli better because Welker dropped a pass yesterday and Asante Samuel dropped an INT 4 years ago? If it's titles then Eli is better. If not, I say Peyton.

    It is all subjective, Brady's 3 Superbowls are by a combined 7 or 8 points, mainly due to Vinateri being a clutch kicker. They won which is all that mattered but they didn't steam roll over anyone.
  • 81
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    The Juggler wrote:
    81 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    by the way, why is bradshaw even in this discussion?
    :lol:

    agreed. he was a fine qb, but he had a killer D and a run game. he's like a trent dilfer with multiple blessings.

    the trent dilfer thing is spot on. its like trent dilfer qb'ing that ravens team before the free agency age. :lol:

    ...well not quite, but i think we're on the same page


    just looked back at the box score for the ravens/giants game....oh my god...had to be one of the worst games ever.
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  • DewieCox
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    BinFrog wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    The first SB win is definitely a farce. Without the coaching and d that he's had he's probably ringless.


    Let's not forget he won all 3 without a big name receiver.

    Don't forget to remember that he hasn't won any since his receiving corp has been the better of the 2.
  • mickeyrat
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    DewieCox wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    The first SB win is definitely a farce. Without the coaching and d that he's had he's probably ringless.


    Let's not forget he won all 3 without a big name receiver.

    Don't forget to remember that he hasn't won any since his receiving corp has been the better of the 2.
    OR since they got busted for spygate? So maybe it hasnt been about how good they acually are at playing the game straight up. Maybe it was about stolen signals/formations.
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  • BinFrog
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    mickeyrat wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    Let's not forget he won all 3 without a big name receiver.

    Don't forget to remember that he hasn't won any since his receiving corp has been the better of the 2.
    OR since they got busted for spygate? So maybe it hasnt been about how good they acually are at playing the game straight up. Maybe it was about stolen signals/formations.


    Again, since Spygate they have been in 2 Superbowls. That's pretty %$^&ing impressive.

    (I am a Giants fan...don't lose sight of that)
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  • Jason P
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    Peyton's biggest accomplishment is turning Indiana from a basketball-crazed state into a football-crazed state. Awards and stats pushed aside, if the Colt's drafted Ryan Leaf, they would be playing in L.A. right now ... and I would be surrounded by Bears fans. :o

    I'll take having a NFL team over a failed post-season run any day of the week. :D Hopefully, I still get to see him suit up for the Colts next year, but if not, it's been a privilege to watch him play.
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  • BinFrog
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    Jason P wrote:
    Peyton's biggest accomplishment is turning Indiana from a basketball-crazed state into a football-crazed state. Awards and stats pushed aside, if the Colt's drafted Ryan Leaf, they would be playing in L.A. right now ... and I would be surrounded by Bears fans. :o

    I'll take having a NFL team over a failed post-season run any day of the week. :D Hopefully, I still get to see him suit up for the Colts next year, but if not, it's been a privilege to watch him play.


    As a big football fan, and someone who had him as his starting FF QB more than once, yes.....he has been amazing to watch.
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  • Newch91
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    81 wrote:
    just looked back at the box score for the ravens/giants game....oh my god...had to be one of the worst games ever.
    Yes it was.
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