OWS represents anger Barack Hussein Obama has caused

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    class warfare?

    what do you call reaganomics and the economic policy we have had in this country the last 30 years?

    you want to cut spending, medicaid, medicare, welfare, planned parenthood, all of which punishes the poor, and cut taxes on the rich, which rewards them...

    class warfare is exactly what that is.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    The GOP doesn't give all the money to the too 1%.
    They earned it.
    The democrats however want to take away their personal property and "redistribute"
    ok hannity.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875

    and ows is REALLY going to escalate when the republicans allow the payroll tax to expire, thus raising taxes on the middle class by $1000....


    Get your story straight. If the payroll tax "expired" there would be no payroll tax.
    Duh. And, you said thus. :-)

    If I'm not mistaken, I think the dems and BO want to "pay" for a continued reduction of the payrol tax by putting a 1 or 2 percent tax on people who make over a million a year...
    Last I checked, they already pay for pretty much everything. Look it up.
    Also, goes to my post above, BO thinks all the ills will be solved by taxing the rich.
    Dumbass, BO
    The wealthy and those "evil" corporations just have their money on the sidelines, waiting for a conducive environment to risk their capital. If BO were given 4 more years, I bet he would tax savings if he could. What a loser.

    Woot for successful people and those who esteem to be by working, risking, sacrificing!

    Boo for people who want successfull people to pay for everything...
    no you get YOUR story straight.
    the gop is fine with a $1000-2000 tax increase on the middle and lower classes, those hurting the most, and are dead set against raising a penny in taxes on the rich. they are hypocrites.

    please defend the gop thinking and positioning on this.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The GOP doesn't give all the money to the too 1%.
    They earned it.
    The democrats however want to take away their personal property and "redistribute"
    Then who does the GOP give the money to?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    I still don't see how the title of this thread makes any sense. I'm sure Obama has added to many peoples anger, but I can't see how any one would really believe that in of itself is all that OWS represents.

    Still scratching my head.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    Congress Poised to Consider Obama Push to Extend Payroll Tax Cut

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-1 ... x-cut.html

    Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Fresh off the deficit-cutting supercommittee’s impasse, leaders in both chambers of Congress said they are prepared to consider extending the payroll tax cut that is set to expire on Dec. 31.

    The U.S. Senate may vote on an extension as soon as next week, Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said yesterday. House Speaker John Boehner said he is open to discussing the expiring payroll cut with the Obama administration.

    “We told the president in September that we stand ready to have an honest and fruitful discussion with him regarding the payroll tax extension, and that invitation stands,” Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said in a statement yesterday.

    Lawmakers returning to Washington next week after a Thanksgiving break will spend the rest of the year debating crucial tax issues that have divided the political parties. In addition to the payroll tax cut, they must decide whether to extend expanded unemployment benefits and a package of miscellaneous tax breaks that expire Dec. 31.

    President Barack Obama spoke at a Manchester, New Hampshire, high school yesterday about the payroll tax cut and said there would be economic consequences if it isn’t extended.

    If Congress refuses to act, then middle-class families are going to get hit with a tax increase at the worst possible time,” he said. “It would be bad for the economy. It would be bad for employment.”

    Democratic Leaders

    Democratic leaders in the House, including Nancy Pelosi of California, Steny Hoyer of Maryland and James Clyburn of South Carolina, sent a letter to Boehner yesterday pressing him to allow a vote on a payroll tax cut extension.

    Tom Porcelli, the chief U.S. market economist at RBC Capital Markets, told Bloomberg Television yesterday that if the break isn’t extended into 2012, “you are literally removing 1.2 percentage points” from U.S. gross domestic product.

    The Social Security portion of payroll taxes, which will be levied on the first $110,100 of income in 2012, is split between employees and employers. Each side pays 6.2 percent of wages.

    For 2011, the Social Security payroll tax for employees was lowered to 4.2 percent. A worker earning $50,000 a year who is paid biweekly has been saving $38.46 in each paycheck.

    This year’s tax break cost the government $111.7 billion in forgone revenue, according to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation. The U.S. transferred money from the general fund to cover the reduced funding for Social Security.

    Employees’ Tax

    At a minimum, Obama wants to see the current tax cut for employees extended for 2012. He also has called on Congress to reduce the payroll levy to 3.1 percent for employees and employers. That proposal has languished in Congress.

    Republicans including House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp of Michigan, who typically support tax cuts, have raised concerns about the cost of extending the payroll provision. Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin have said the tax holiday is a bad idea.

    Lawmakers haven’t said whether or how they could offset the cost of an extension. Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has said he might support extending the cuts with an offset.

    Boehner also urged Obama to press the Democratic-controlled Senate to vote on House-passed jobs bills. Among the measures are those that would reduce regulation and prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency from issuing rules on greenhouse gas emissions.




    so they wonder how they will offset these tax cuts for the middle class but refuse to budge on tax increases on the rich....HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Thus. :lol:
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    The GOP doesn't give all the money to the too 1%.
    They earned it.
    The democrats however want to take away their personal property and "redistribute"
    ok hannity.

    Name calling is not ok. Please read posting guidelines. I don't want to report you because if yuo get banned from Posting I think you might get VERY angry.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    here is one from fox news saying exactly what i said about tax increases on the middle class...


    Obama Urges Congress to Prevent Payroll Tax Hike After Deficit Panel Failure

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11 ... yroll-tax/


    President Obama, after watching the deficit Super Committee collapse under the weight of partisan discord, on Tuesday urged Congress to prevent that failure from resulting in a payroll tax increase at the end of the year.

    Some on the so-called Super Committee were hoping to include the payroll tax extension, along with an extension of unemployment aid, in a final agreement to cut the deficit by $1.2 trillion. The provision, passed last year, was one of Obama's signature policies and something he has pushed for as part of a larger jobs package that has yet to attract widespread support in Congress. Without a deficit deal, the future of the cut and numerous other provisions is unclear.


    Obama, on a visit to Manchester, N.H., warned that taxes would go up by about $1,000 for the average family if Congress does not act.

    "This payroll tax is set to expire at the end of next month. ... If we allow that to happen, if Congress refuses to act, then middle-class families are going to get hit with a tax increase at the worst possible time," Obama said. "We can't let that happen, not right now."

    Obama wants to extend the payroll tax cut -- and then expand it to cut taxes by another $500 for the average working family. He said a vote on the measure is coming up next week in the Senate.

    House Speaker John Boehner said in a written statement Tuesday afternoon that Republicans are ready to discuss the payroll provision.

    "We told the president in September that we stand ready to have an honest and fruitful discussion with him regarding the payroll tax extension, and that invitation stands," Boehner said, while urging Obama to get behind other Republican-authored jobs bills which have passed in his chamber.

    But without a deficit-cutting deal, it's unclear how the government would pay for the payroll tax cuts, which would eat away at the Social Security coffers. And ahead of his visit Tuesday to New Hampshire, home of the first-in-the-nation primary, the former New England governor who wants to challenge Obama in 2012 effectively blamed the president's policies for suffocating business in the first place.

    "Your policies have failed," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney wrote in a letter running in three New Hampshire newspapers. "Far from bringing the crisis to an end, your policies have actively hindered economic recovery."

    The president's trip comes one day after the official collapse of the special congressional deficit-reduction panel, which failed to reach a deal on $1.2 trillion in cuts.

    Making the payroll tax cut the top post-Super Committee priority, the White House says a middle-class family making $50,000 a year would see its taxes rise by $1,000 if the payroll tax cuts are not extended.

    Republicans aren't wholly opposed to the extension. In fact, party members sent the White House a letter in September stating that extension of the payroll tax cut is one element of Obama's $447 billion jobs bill where the two sides may be able to find common ground.

    But some Republicans worry that the tax cut extension would undermine the solvency of Social Security, and others are opposed to any effort to pay for the renewal by taxing the wealthiest Americans.

    Last year's cut in the 6.2 percent payroll tax, which raises money for Social Security, was accomplished with borrowed money. Obama said Tuesday that he wants Washington to extend the cuts "responsibly," by asking the wealthiest Americans to pay a "little bit more."

    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday it would be "inconceivable" for Republicans in Congress to allow payroll taxes to rise next year.

    A senior administration official said the president would not insist on the cuts being paid for immediately.

    The 2 percent payroll tax cut expiring in December gave 121 million families a tax cut averaging $934 last year at a total cost of about $120 billion, according to the Tax Policy Center. Obama wants to cut the payroll tax by another percentage point for workers, at a total cost of $179 billion, and cut the employer share of the tax in half as well for most companies, which carries a $69 billion price tag.

    The visit is marked by deep political overtones. The president won the state by 9 percentage points in the 2008 election, but recent Bloomberg polling shows Romney beating Obama by 10 percentage points in a hypothetical match-up. Romney has built his early GOP primary strategy in large part around New Hampshire.

    Romney's print ads, in the form of an open letter, say the evidence on Obama's economic stewardship is "unequivocal" -- his policies have "fallen short even by the standards your own administration set for itself."

    Romney claimed the 2009 stimulus bill was packed with special interests and went toward projects that "were far from 'shovel ready' or had absolutely nothing to do with creating jobs."

    As a result, Romney wrote, "You placed a burden of debt on America that will take generations to repay and we got almost nothing in return." Romney also faulted the president for pursuing new regulations that created uncertainty in the business community and "snuffed out investment."

    The payroll tax cut issue, though, could appeal to independent voters in low-tax New Hampshire.

    With Republican candidates blanketing the state with an anti-Obama message ahead of the Jan. 10 primary, the president and his surrogates, including Vice President Joe Biden, are seeking to steal some of the spotlight for their economic message.

    Carney on Tuesday also criticized Romney for a separate TV ad now running in New Hampshire. The ad includes a clip from the 2008 campaign in which Obama said, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." However, Obama was quoting somebody from Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign -- something Romney's campaign acknowledged in its release on the ad.

    Carney described the ad as an "unfortunate" way for Romney to kick off his campaign's TV ads.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    The GOP doesn't give all the money to the too 1%.
    They earned it.
    The democrats however want to take away their personal property and "redistribute"
    ok hannity.

    Name calling is not ok. Please read posting guidelines. I don't want to report you because if yuo get banned from Posting I think you might get VERY angry.
    i am on topic.

    now can you please get on topic and please defend your positon? or please admit that you can not defend it and that the republicans are hypocrites on this issue...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Already defended my position, thus.
    Stop trolling
    I won't feed you.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    Already defended my position, thus.
    Stop trolling
    so you are fine with the middle class getting hit with a $1000 tax increase then?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I want taxes and spending to be lower for everyone.

    Woot

    Night night. Baby just woke up. :D
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    I want taxes and spending to be lower for everyone.

    Woot

    Night night. Baby just woke up. :D
    but they would not be lower for the middle class if the payroll tax expires....

    :? :? :?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The GOP doesn't give all the money to the too 1%.
    They earned it.
    The democrats however want to take away their personal property and "redistribute"
    ok hannity.

    Name calling is not ok. Please read posting guidelines. I don't want to report you because if yuo get banned from Posting I think you might get VERY angry.
    Funny you talk about name calling:
    Dumbass, BO
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    chris christie knows his way around a cheesesteak, and he will probably know a heart attack in the next 10 years. i think that is one of the reasons he is not running, as the presidency is stressful and stress and obesity is a recipe for disaster in the form of sudden death....

    ows does represent anger not just at obama, but at congress, the senate, and the banks and those on wall street. it represents anger at the congress and the senate being unable to agree or compromise on anything to actually fucking help this country... also lack of jobs at home while the wars continue, corporate profits through the roof while they ship jobs overseas, banks get bailed out and none of them get charged with anything while consumers get fucked. to me it represents the anger at the failure of capitalism in that it is predatory in nature.

    and ows is REALLY going to escalate when the republicans allow the payroll tax to expire, thus raising taxes on the middle class by $1000...they are ok with raising taxes on the middle class, the people hurting the most, while they protect the wealthy from any tax increases. unfuckingbelievable!!! :twisted: :twisted:

    us in the middle class, the republican party does not care about us. they hate us. they see us as an inconvenience and a burden on the system and a roadblock for what they really want to do. they view ows as the peasants rising up against them. like when the slave owners would not let slaves learn to read and write for fear of them communicating with each other to overthrow the slaveholder. if you don't believe me that the gop hates you, then vote for them. vote for all of them and watch this country sink even further into the crapper.

    What I find funny is people are always telling republicans to stop voting with their wallets. And then the democrats are running specifically on those wallets and the people voting for the democrats have always done nothing but vote for their own wallets.

    Nobody hates you. Quit being so dramatic. Oh, and nice touch with the personal attack on Christie, you are high class.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    The dirty truth is the Democrats are not willing to reduce spending to where it needs to be for the country to be healthy and the Republicans are not willing to increase taxes in areas where it is needed in order for the country to be healthy.

    Each have some good points and some bad points, but the republican "leadership" in Congress unwillingness to compromise and Barrack Obama's class warefare cry has created an environment where nothing happens and the people start turning on each other.

    Well done idiots. I will not vote for a single incumbent. I've decide I'm going to give Mitt a try. I hope he doesn't let the far right in his own party ruin what could be a good presidency.
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  • Newch91 wrote:
    Bho just wants to tax the wealthy.
    That's because taxing the wealthy has worked before. Cutting their taxes hasn't worked.


    I would like to know when redistribution of wealth has EVER worked, ANYWHERE?

    Can't wait to hear this...
  • MayDay Malone
    MayDay Malone Posts: 641
    edited December 2011
    7RayZ wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    If he knows his stuff, how come he's not running?
    Because they didn't want to reinstall Teddy Roosevelt's bathtub at the White House.


    I think you are referring to TAFT.... not Teddy...
    Post edited by MayDay Malone on
  • Newch91 wrote:
    Also, goes to my post above, BO thinks all the ills will be solved by taxing the rich.
    Can you enlighten us as to when a tax cut for the rich solved anything?


    No. You said "taxing the rich has worked."

    I still want to know where and when.
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