Why doesnt pearl jam do a Gospel Album
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abhijeet wrote:stardust1976 wrote:Because you are refusing to accept the notion that there might be something of merit in something you don't believe in. And I'll say again, that is the epitome of closed mindedness.
DO you accept that fact that many people believe that religious ideas are mass delusion? If not, you're close minded by your own definition.
For goodness sake. This is not an argument over whether religion is legitimate, despite so many people wanting to turn it into one. I am not religious. I am happy for people to believe whatever they want to believe. I understand that for some religion is simply mass delusion yes. But I also understand for many others, it's everything they have faith in. There is no right or wrong view. I am not closed minded by my own definition. I happily accept others faith and beliefs even when they differ from mine. Each to his own. It is closed minded to not accept that other's beliefs can be as valid as your own.
And again, this is not an argument about religion. I am not religious, and I am happy for others to have whatever belief they want. I am simply saying in this context, in this thread, it is very closed minded for people to not be willing to accept the idea that a band could make an album in a particular musical genre, simply because they themselves don't like the idea. It's fine to have an opinion. But be prepared for people to say it's closed minded when you are not willing to admit that any other view, other than your own, could possibly be acceptable.0 -
stardust1976 wrote:But be prepared for people to say it's closed minded when you are not willing to admit that any other view, other than your own, could possibly be acceptable.
Precisely the attitude I get from most extreme religious types ...
Sure, if the band wants to go do something, they should go ahead and do it. There's a strong possibility that I will hate whatever they produce, simply because in my mind, gospel music is too reflective of the people with the attitude you mention above.
U2 is another interesting example. They pretty much wear their religion on their sleeve in their early work. I still love the music, because their attitude and actions reflect respect and tolerance, above all else. If they were preachy and pushed their religion into the music and the songs at every opportunity, then I might not be into their music as much as I am.Seattle 2009-09-21
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Wow you'll really do anything to prove a point, huh? Two of my favorite artists were devoutly religious and known for their take on gospel.stardust1976 wrote:nuclear ukuleles wrote:Yeah, and saying it's never gonna happen isn't being closed minded. It's being realistic. Pearl Jam is not a religious band and never has been.
And just for the record, because people seem to have a hard time understanding things on here. The reason I said you were closed minded for saying it's ridiculous is because you don't know the band personally. I assume you've never met them, and if you have, you certainly haven't sat down and had an indepth conversation with them about their personal religious beliefs. You are basing your OPINION that it's a ridiculous idea on the information you have read and learned about this band through their music. Fair enough. But you cannot be so presumptuous as to think that you know what they believe about God and religion to such a point that you can state categorically that it's a ridiculous idea. A silly idea in your opinion? Fine, but you cannot know that it's ridiculous to them, which is what you were presuming. That's why I said it's narrow and closed minded. Because you are refusing to accept the notion that there might be something of merit in something you don't believe in. And I'll say again, that is the epitome of closed mindedness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq2hStRPSVQ&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUP8oc9Bgs
So let me reiterate to YOU. There's a difference between not believing in gospel, and not believing that Pearl Jam will ever do gospel. Eddie once said religion "is like a movie that was way too popular" -- but they're going to promote it by doing a religious album? So no, frankly, it doesn't make sense to me as to why they'd do one. Please stop trying to make me look like a fool for using my brain.0 -
Whether or not you are religious: PJ doing a gospel album is the worst idea I have ever heard of. It's also the least likely thing to ever happen. If it does, the Mayans were right and the world will end next year.
You'd be more likely to see them put out a fusion jazz hardcore hip-hop indie sludge core trip hop psychadelic transgender epic rock opera. (and it would sound better to my ears)
In all seriousness: this is just silly. This thread shouldn't have turned into a battle about why or why not they should, and why or why not you may be close minded if you feel strongly either way. It's just silly to think this is even a worthwhile topic (yet I can't help but read the posts). PJ - gospel? Stop. You'll be lucky to get an intro snippet like in the Stones' "You Can't Always Get What You Want"...and even that's a stretch.Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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:thumbup:BinFrog wrote:Whether or not you are religious: PJ doing a gospel album is the worst idea I have ever heard of. It's also the least likely thing to ever happen. If it does, the Mayans were right and the world will end next year.
You'd be more likely to see them put out a fusion jazz hardcore hip-hop indie sludge core trip hop psychadelic transgender epic rock opera. (and it would sound better to my ears)
In all seriousness: this is just silly. This thread shouldn't have turned into a battle about why or why not they should, and why or why not you may be close minded if you feel strongly either way. It's just silly to think this is even a worthwhile topic (yet I can't help but read the posts). PJ - gospel? Stop. You'll be lucky to get an intro snippet like in the Stones' "You Can't Always Get What You Want"...and even that's a stretch.0 -
Is it a far fetched Idea? Sure...will they do one..Probably not.
BUT....And I hope this doesn't get me kicked out of 10c LOL
I bet all the "hardcore" Jewish fans of Barbra Streisand NEVER thought she would do a Christian Christmas Album either.
NOW don't get all stupid and idiotic and say I am comparing Pearl Jam to Barbra Streisand, I'm not
I'm just saying I am sure her fans would have though it was equally as a far fetched idea."...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."0 -
Bob Dylan played electric guitar and then became a born-again. Go figure.Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"0 -
Fine... No Gospel.. I would rather have a Christmas Album anyway. With Traditional Non Religious Songs. (Yes, I know there is another thread for this... lol)0
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How can you be a born again, if he was born jewish?BinFrog wrote:Bob Dylan played electric guitar and then became a born-again. Go figure.
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nutbarz wrote:Fine... No Gospel.. I would rather have a Christmas Album anyway. With Traditional Non Religious Songs. (Yes, I know there is another thread for this... lol)
How about no gospel or holiday albums? Works for me.Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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nuclear ukuleles wrote:Please stop trying to make me look like a fool for using my brain.
How about you do the same and we'll call it even?0 -
stardust1976 wrote:If you can show me where I said that I was religious and this was about wanting to hear Pearl Jam sing about God, then show me.
never once referred to you. if you can show me where i wrote "stardust" then show me.Thorns2010 wrote:Ummm.... can you please tell me where I said I was religious? Or that I believed in Christ?
never referred to you, either.
but okay, you two win. i'm closed minded to the asinine idea of pearl jam doing a gospel album. so be it.0 -
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81 wrote:sea bass to the rescue
I'm wondering how this thread made it to 9 pages!WI '98, WI '99 (EV), WI '00, Chgo '00, MO '00, Champaign '03, Chgo '03, WI '03, IN '03, MI '04, Chgo '06:N1 & 2, WI '06, Chgo '07, Chgo '08 (EV:N1), Chgo '09:N1 & 2, Chgo '11 (EV:N1), WI '11:N1 & 2, Philly '12, Wrigley '13, Pitt '13, Buff '13, Detroit '14, MKE '14, Wrigley '16: N1 & N2, Seattle '18 N2, Wrigley '18: N1 & N2, Fenway '18 N1, STL '22, St Paul '23 N2, Chgo '23: N1 & N2, Wrigley '24 N1 & 20 -
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Mamasan23 wrote:81 wrote:sea bass to the rescue
I'm wondering how this thread made it to 9 pages!
Are you kidding, this is the best thread I have ever seen on this forum.9/13/1998 - 9/15/1998 - 8/29/2000 - 7/2/2003 - 7/3/2003 - 7/11/2003 - 9/28/2004 - 9/28/2005 - 5/13/2006 - 5/27/2006 - 6/1/2006 - 6/28/2008 - 6/30/2008 - 5/17/2010 - 10/25/20130 -
Fuck outta here... :roll:I Know All The Rules But The Rules Do Not Know Me.0
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Because that would be absolutely horrendous.
Christianity+rock music= NEVER good. NEVER... its horrible5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
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Holy crap, WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSUME IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION?????
Didn't U2 record I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking for with a gospel chorus?
It's just a style of music, typically used for religious purposes, but still a style.
I'd be interested to hear a Pearl Jam song with an African American gospel back-up. Not necessarily a whole album, but I would be open to the idea.
I'm Agnostic by the way, but Pearl Jam is one of my many religions. It would only make sense they do gospel. 8-)0
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