Finally after 28 posts someone mature had a good open minded response....the band would prob think its a neat idea...I hope they get word of this.
Not sure how the post I made was close minded or immature. I dont think you deserve to be smacked for making this post -- we all have our beliefs and opinions and are certainly entitled to them.
That being the case, I shared my belief (in Pastafarianism - if you read the link it makes just as much sense as any other reglion) and said that PJ would rock anything they played.
Good luck to you - I hope that my post did not offend you, that was not the intent. I do think PJ would sound great playing most anything - but if you listen to what they have put out there as personal beliefs (as many people pointed out, albeit a bit roughly) the idea that they would do a gospel album is extremely far fetched.
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As someone who survived a childhood of southern religious oppression I get why many are all "WTF" but aren't Love Reign on Me, Long Road, and Come Back essentially gospel? It doesn't have to be religious to be gospel...
Actually I think to be Gospel it is a must that the lyrics be in some way religious. Otherwise how would they be connected to the Gospel or be called Gospel?
As someone who survived a childhood of southern religious oppression I get why many are all "WTF" but aren't Love Reign on Me, Long Road, and Come Back essentially gospel? It doesn't have to be religious to be gospel...
You have a valid point and I'm sorry you had to endure that. I've seen that happen to people firsthand so I get what you're saying. I also agree with you about some of those songs and I'm truly glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way. As long as peace and love is the central message... there can surely be found an element of gospel.
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While yes I don't think it would actually happen, its nice to see the close mindedness here on the board. It would be an interesting thing for Pearl Jam to do, and could be really cool.
Also for all those that sit and say 'Pearl Jam isn't that kind of band' I have a hard time believing that Given To Fly is about anyone BUT Jesus. I mean seriously, look up the lyrics.
I'll admit that PJ doing a gospel album is a pretty far-fetched idea. Still, I never would have thought it (the idea) would have gotten so many awful responses. Ed's voice can have a soulful sound and PJ's music in general can come across as pretty spiritual sounding. For me, their music can be very spiritual. I do believe in God and I am a Christian and I know that can be viewed unfavorably here in these circles. This may seem odd to many people, but the messages I find in much of their music help me think of things I would/could easily otherwise blissfully overlook such as social inequality, hypocrisy in religion, the flaws of human nature, etc. Listening to the music actually helps me be a better person. But I digress...
I think the important thing to remember is that people shouldn't be so quick to judge other people's ideas and beliefs. The OP obviously has a Christian background and went out on a limb with it and posted it on here.
As someone pointed out, PJ could rock nursery rhymes if that's what they decided to play. Indeed, Gospel, done Pearl Jam style would undeniably sound righteous.
because religion has no business being in good music. i think it's too busy starting wars anyways
man starts wars, they just use religion as an excuse.
this is the same thing as the whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people". you're not wrong, but millions have killed in the name of god. yes they're using it as an excuse, but they're still killing because they possess extreme beliefs.
i don't intend to offend anyone with my post(s), i just view religion in a negative light. i don't view individuals who have beliefs (except extremists) in a bad way.
Also for all those that sit and say 'Pearl Jam isn't that kind of band' I have a hard time believing that Given To Fly is about anyone BUT Jesus. I mean seriously, look up the lyrics.
I've always thought the same thing until I found out Ed was an athiest. But I guess that doesn't mean an athiest can't write a song about what is, in the lyricist's opinion, the myth of Jesus.
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While yes I don't think it would actually happen, its nice to see the close mindedness here on the board. It would be an interesting thing for Pearl Jam to do, and could be really cool.
Also for all those that sit and say 'Pearl Jam isn't that kind of band' I have a hard time believing that Given To Fly is about anyone BUT Jesus. I mean seriously, look up the lyrics.
What's all this talk about closed mindedness? Anyone who knows anything about Pearl Jam knows it would be fucking ridiculous and completely out of character for them to do something like this. Now, on the other hand, if this were posted in a Ben Harper forum I would understand. It has less to do with the actual post itself as to where it was posted.
Oh and yes Given to Fly has "Jesus" references. But I don't think it's meant the way you see it. More along the lines of, "Jesus greets me, looks just like me..."
i don't intend to offend anyone with my post(s), i just view religion in a negative light.
You can't have it both ways. Denouncing someone else's spiritual viewpoint because it's not your own is pretty open for taking offense to.
To get back on topic. I'd say The Into the Wild Soundtrack is Eddie's 'gospel' album as it celebrates nature and the human spirit.
well then those people need to get over it. yes, you can have it both ways. i'm sure the religious understand that not everyone is going to share their beliefs. just like people who aren't religious understand that there are individuals who don't share theirs. do i get offended when someone tries to talk to me about faith? nope. so why should someone get offended when another individual denounces religion?
What's all this talk about closed mindedness? Anyone who knows anything about Pearl Jam knows it would be fucking ridiculous and completely out of character for them to do something like this.
I believe that statement right there is an example of the closed mindedness of people on the boards.
Are you not willing to be open minded enough to consider that there could be some musical merit to the idea?
Why would it be ridiculous? Out of character maybe, but it's only an opinion that says it's ridiculous. Personally, I love gospel music. I'm not religious in the slightest, but I love gospel music because it sounds amazing. Not sure how Pearl Jam would sound doing a gospel album - Ed's voice might sound completely awesome with a gospel choir behind it. Just because people don't expect it, or think it's out of character is not a reason to say it is a ridiculous idea.
What's all this talk about closed mindedness? Anyone who knows anything about Pearl Jam knows it would be fucking ridiculous and completely out of character for them to do something like this.
I believe that statement right there is an example of the closed mindedness of people on the boards.
Are you not willing to be open minded enough to consider that there could be some musical merit to the idea?
Why would it be ridiculous? Out of character maybe, but it's only an opinion that says it's ridiculous. Personally, I love gospel music. I'm not religious in the slightest, but I love gospel music because it sounds amazing. Not sure how Pearl Jam would sound doing a gospel album - Ed's voice might sound completely awesome with a gospel choir behind it. Just because people don't expect it, or think it's out of character is not a reason to say it is a ridiculous idea.
it would be ridiculous. pearl jam is not a band that can pull of gospel music. i'm open for pearl jam experimenting... it's only been almost ten years since they've done that... but i'd pee my pants laughing if i ever saw ed singing about god with stone, mike, jeff, and matt clapping and singing behind him.
there have been a few people on here stating that pearl jam has written songs about spirituality, and they have. but gospel music and songs about spirituality are two different things.
What's all this talk about closed mindedness? Anyone who knows anything about Pearl Jam knows it would be fucking ridiculous and completely out of character for them to do something like this.
I believe that statement right there is an example of the closed mindedness of people on the boards.
Are you not willing to be open minded enough to consider that there could be some musical merit to the idea?
Why would it be ridiculous? Out of character maybe, but it's only an opinion that says it's ridiculous. Personally, I love gospel music. I'm not religious in the slightest, but I love gospel music because it sounds amazing. Not sure how Pearl Jam would sound doing a gospel album - Ed's voice might sound completely awesome with a gospel choir behind it. Just because people don't expect it, or think it's out of character is not a reason to say it is a ridiculous idea.
it would be ridiculous. pearl jam is not a band that can pull of gospel music. i'm open for pearl jam experimenting... it's only been almost ten years since they've done that... but i'd pee my pants laughing if i ever saw ed singing about god with stone, mike, jeff, and matt clapping and singing behind him.
there have been a few people on here stating that pearl jam has written songs about spirituality, and they have. but gospel music and songs about spirituality are two different things.
So my point is made again. That's what makes this board closed minded. Are you the be all and end all of music? Just because you don't think it would sound good, and just because you would laugh, and just because you don't think they can pull off gospel doesn't make it fact. That is opinion. And the definition of closed mindedness is not being open to the idea of something that you might not agree with, or think would work. You say you are open to them experimenting, but you aren't open to them experimenting with gospel? That's a bit of a double standard don't you think? Just because YOU don't think it would sound good, does not make it fact. Stating your opinion as fact is very closed minded.
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Not sure how the post I made was close minded or immature. I dont think you deserve to be smacked for making this post -- we all have our beliefs and opinions and are certainly entitled to them.
That being the case, I shared my belief (in Pastafarianism - if you read the link it makes just as much sense as any other reglion) and said that PJ would rock anything they played.
Good luck to you - I hope that my post did not offend you, that was not the intent. I do think PJ would sound great playing most anything - but if you listen to what they have put out there as personal beliefs (as many people pointed out, albeit a bit roughly) the idea that they would do a gospel album is extremely far fetched.
Actually I think to be Gospel it is a must that the lyrics be in some way religious. Otherwise how would they be connected to the Gospel or be called Gospel?
You have a valid point and I'm sorry you had to endure that. I've seen that happen to people firsthand so I get what you're saying. I also agree with you about some of those songs and I'm truly glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way. As long as peace and love is the central message... there can surely be found an element of gospel.
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no offense but, doubtful....bet they haven't said/heard "NEAT" in awhile either
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I am agnostic, but seriously, WOW.
While yes I don't think it would actually happen, its nice to see the close mindedness here on the board. It would be an interesting thing for Pearl Jam to do, and could be really cool.
Also for all those that sit and say 'Pearl Jam isn't that kind of band' I have a hard time believing that Given To Fly is about anyone BUT Jesus. I mean seriously, look up the lyrics.
man starts wars, they just use religion as an excuse.
great post!
this is the same thing as the whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people". you're not wrong, but millions have killed in the name of god. yes they're using it as an excuse, but they're still killing because they possess extreme beliefs.
i don't intend to offend anyone with my post(s), i just view religion in a negative light. i don't view individuals who have beliefs (except extremists) in a bad way.
You can't have it both ways. Denouncing someone else's spiritual viewpoint because it's not your own is pretty open for taking offense to.
To get back on topic. I'd say The Into the Wild Soundtrack is Eddie's 'gospel' album as it celebrates nature and the human spirit.
I've always thought the same thing until I found out Ed was an athiest. But I guess that doesn't mean an athiest can't write a song about what is, in the lyricist's opinion, the myth of Jesus.
Oh and yes Given to Fly has "Jesus" references. But I don't think it's meant the way you see it. More along the lines of, "Jesus greets me, looks just like me..."
well then those people need to get over it. yes, you can have it both ways. i'm sure the religious understand that not everyone is going to share their beliefs. just like people who aren't religious understand that there are individuals who don't share theirs. do i get offended when someone tries to talk to me about faith? nope. so why should someone get offended when another individual denounces religion?
lol okay. double standard.
Most of you guys would be shitting your pants with excitement if Pearl Jam incorporated something like that into one of their songs.
I believe that statement right there is an example of the closed mindedness of people on the boards.
Are you not willing to be open minded enough to consider that there could be some musical merit to the idea?
Why would it be ridiculous? Out of character maybe, but it's only an opinion that says it's ridiculous. Personally, I love gospel music. I'm not religious in the slightest, but I love gospel music because it sounds amazing. Not sure how Pearl Jam would sound doing a gospel album - Ed's voice might sound completely awesome with a gospel choir behind it. Just because people don't expect it, or think it's out of character is not a reason to say it is a ridiculous idea.
it would be ridiculous. pearl jam is not a band that can pull of gospel music. i'm open for pearl jam experimenting... it's only been almost ten years since they've done that... but i'd pee my pants laughing if i ever saw ed singing about god with stone, mike, jeff, and matt clapping and singing behind him.
there have been a few people on here stating that pearl jam has written songs about spirituality, and they have. but gospel music and songs about spirituality are two different things.
but what do i know. pearl jam might sound amazing covering this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hEiGEfm2uE
So my point is made again. That's what makes this board closed minded. Are you the be all and end all of music? Just because you don't think it would sound good, and just because you would laugh, and just because you don't think they can pull off gospel doesn't make it fact. That is opinion. And the definition of closed mindedness is not being open to the idea of something that you might not agree with, or think would work. You say you are open to them experimenting, but you aren't open to them experimenting with gospel? That's a bit of a double standard don't you think? Just because YOU don't think it would sound good, does not make it fact. Stating your opinion as fact is very closed minded.