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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,337
    mickeyrat wrote:
    "Red Mosquito" always comes to mind ("If I had known then, what I know now....").

    this is one of my biggest hurdles as well. it's such a big part of my life. I can't imagine NOT:

    -having a cold beer on a hot day
    -enjoying a Crown on a friday evening after work
    -enjoying a glass of wine with a nice steak out with my wife

    you get the picture.
    something key about these statements. The letter a. As in a single beer. a single Crown. A single glass of wine.

    The question you could ask yourself is, have I really stopped at one of anything?

    yes, actually, and quite often. that's what keeps taking me back to the "I don't have a problem, I just have a good time sometimes" line of thinking. Because I don't have a problem ALL THE TIME, which is what people think when they think of alcoholics. They don't think of the sober guy that just always has a drink in his hands. They aren't thinking of the person that depends on that one drink after work once a day, but still, they DEPEND on it, so it's an issue.

    I'm fighting constantly telling myself that I'm fine.

    Sipping from a Crown and coke as I type this. No joke.[/quote]
    As I read the way you describe your drinking, it would seem to me that you would be a "hard drinker" as described in the book Alcoholics Anonymous. But its not for me to say one way or the other. This is about the only "disease" thats self diagnosed , so only you can make that determination.

    I would like to make a suggestion. Go to www.aa.org . There you can read our literature. Particularly the Big Book paying close attention to Chapters 2 and 3. It's in those chapters that describe , accurately I might add(at least for me), what it means to be alcoholic.

    Whatever you decide for yourself, its a pleasure to have you here. Keep coming back!!!
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  • phillyfan
    phillyfan Posts: 831
    Hey All,
    Im new to this thread.Just got out of detox from pain pills 2 days ago and I still feels like shit.My body is so weak,every step,every movement is a chore.Today is a tuff one just thinking about take 1 little pill to feel better.I know Im not going to,but its a tuff one today.
    If you hate something dont you do it too
    world fucking champs!!!
  • oona left
    oona left Posts: 1,677
    phillyfan wrote:
    Hey All,
    Im new to this thread.Just got out of detox from pain pills 2 days ago and I still feels like shit.My body is so weak,every step,every movement is a chore.Today is a tuff one just thinking about take 1 little pill to feel better.I know Im not going to,but its a tuff one today.

    Welcome!

    Hang in there. It does get easier :)
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Hey all new to this thread; I just quit drinking two months ago.. It's been really hard but I've been going to a Christian based 12 step program, which is really no different from the regular program other than we all have the same "higher power", which is God. Anyhow I have just been reading this thread off and on all day today, and thought this was soo totally cool, that I thought I'd come say hello. It's really, really, nice knowing that we're not alone in our fight against the addictions that bind us in our lives. I struggle with not drinking everyday, and while I fail some days, I have been doing really well; considering I used to wake up only to drink the beer on my nightstand that was left over from the night before. Anyhow just wanted to say hello and thanks for starting this thread, I can really use the support!
  • Hey all new to this thread; I just quit drinking two months ago.. It's been really hard but I've been going to a Christian based 12 step program, which is really no different from the regular program other than we all have the same "higher power", which is God. Anyhow I have just been reading this thread off and on all day today, and thought this was soo totally cool, that I thought I'd come say hello. It's really, really, nice knowing that we're not alone in our fight against the addictions that bind us in our lives. I struggle with not drinking everyday, and while I fail some days, I have been doing really well; considering I used to wake up only to drink the beer on my nightstand that was left over from the night before. Anyhow just wanted to say hello and thanks for starting this thread, I can really use the support!

    Hang in there, it'll be alright. It's often said that alcoholism is a disease of loneliness and I really felt that - I could feel alone in a crowd like a lot of addicts. This thread is a constant reminder that there are others out there and it does bind us.

    I just wanted to say thanks for posting and thanks to everyone else for the recent activity here over the last few weeks. I'm alone across the world with just one meeting a week, so just a few words on this thread from any of you picks me up and pulls me through the day sometimes. I'm sure I don't just speak for myself in saying that. If any of you have the time to just write a few words now and again to keep this ball rolling, it is really appreciated. I know that this thread was the one thing that got me in to AA nearly 2 years ago and it is one of the things that has kept me here.
    we're all going to the same place...
  • ShimmyMommy
    ShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    It's often said that alcoholism is a disease of loneliness and I really felt that - I could feel alone in a crowd like a lot of addicts.

    Thank you for posting this specifically. Gave me another perspective about someone I love dearly. One I never considered, because they never said it...probably because they don't even realized it themselves. Thank you.
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    It's often said that alcoholism is a disease of loneliness and I really felt that - I could feel alone in a crowd like a lot of addicts.

    Thank you for posting this specifically. Gave me another perspective about someone I love dearly. One I never considered, because they never said it...probably because they don't even realized it themselves. Thank you.
    It truly truly is a disease of loneliness, I know that one for sure. and thank you for your kind words. It really helps to have all the encouragement from others whom are facing the same same thing.And it's really cool that this thread has been going for so long.
  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    joke for the day:

    in 2015 scientists discover a cure for alcoholism that is contained in a single pill.
    when they approach the first alcoholic in the trial run, the explain to him that if he swallows that one pill he will be cured of his alcoholism forever!

    so the alcoholic responds," really? what happens if I take two?!"

    ;)
    "This here's a REQUEST!"
    EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
    10/25/13 Hartford
  • locked wrote:
    joke for the day:

    in 2015 scientists discover a cure for alcoholism that is contained in a single pill.
    when they approach the first alcoholic in the trial run, the explain to him that if he swallows that one pill he will be cured of his alcoholism forever!

    so the alcoholic responds," really? what happens if I take two?!"

    ;)

    I had a conversation yesterday. One of my students told me that he'd heard about a drug that was being released some time which cures addiction.

    My first thought was, no kidding, "Great, I could take it, then I could drink every day".

    It was a good reminder of how my mind works.
    we're all going to the same place...
  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    I tell people my favorite flavor is "more"!
    "This here's a REQUEST!"
    EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
    10/25/13 Hartford
  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    bump to page one?
    "This here's a REQUEST!"
    EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
    10/25/13 Hartford
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    oona left Posts: 1,677
    locked wrote:
    joke for the day:

    in 2015 scientists discover a cure for alcoholism that is contained in a single pill.
    when they approach the first alcoholic in the trial run, the explain to him that if he swallows that one pill he will be cured of his alcoholism forever!

    so the alcoholic responds," really? what happens if I take two?!"

    ;)

    I had a conversation yesterday. One of my students told me that he'd heard about a drug that was being released some time which cures addiction.

    My first thought was, no kidding, "Great, I could take it, then I could drink every day".

    It was a good reminder of how my mind works.

    That right there is the best "test" I've ever heard of to determine if you ARE an alcoholic.

    If you were told something could be done to cure the alcoholism, if your first thought is something to the effect of, "Great! Now I can go get drunk!," you're alcoholic.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,337
    I'm an incredibly fortunate man. Just had a complete physical done with blood workup and an EKG.

    Blood work is all within normal ranges except for low bilirubin(liver enzyme)
    EKG showed normal except for a heart attack :shock: :o I had at some point in my past. WHO KNEW?? Believe I've narrowed down a night that it likely happened. I can recall a night of heavy crack use that was particularly strong. Ears pounding and heart pounding more so than usual with how I used. Thanfully thats in my past. At least for today.


    HAve a sober day!!! Remember NOTHING is so bad that it should cause us to pick up again.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • ShimmyMommy
    ShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I'm an incredibly fortunate man. Just had a complete physical done with blood workup and an EKG.

    Blood work is all within normal ranges except for low bilirubin(liver enzyme)
    EKG showed normal except for a heart attack :shock: :o I had at some point in my past. WHO KNEW?? Believe I've narrowed down a night that it likely happened. I can recall a night of heavy crack use that was particularly strong. Ears pounding and heart pounding more so than usual with how I used. Thanfully thats in my past. At least for today.


    HAve a sober day!!! Remember NOTHING is so bad that it should cause us to pick up again.

    WOW! Congratulations mickeyrat! Glad you're still alive. :D
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Just checking in.. I quit smoking on July4th, and it really sucks double not smoking or drinking right at the same time!!LOL Thank God for POT!! Although I am thinking of quitting that too.
  • of.the.girl
    of.the.girl Posts: 10,026
    Just checking in.. I quit smoking on July4th, and it really sucks double not smoking or drinking right at the same time!!LOL Thank God for POT!! Although I am thinking of quitting that too.

    It's only as bad as you make it seem to be. The mind is a powerful thing.
    It works if you work it. :)
  • ChadsStillAlive
    ChadsStillAlive Indianapolis Posts: 452
    Grateful and humbled to be celebrating 11 years clean today. :)
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side.
    I am right by your side.
  • Grateful and humbled to be celebrating 11 years clean today. :)


    Congratulations. That is absolutely great!
    I still remember your countdowns froma couple of years ago, that was a labour of love :)
    we're all going to the same place...
  • ChadsStillAlive
    ChadsStillAlive Indianapolis Posts: 452
    Grateful and humbled to be celebrating 11 years clean today. :)


    Congratulations. That is absolutely great!
    I still remember your countdowns froma couple of years ago, that was a labour of love :)


    Thanks! Yeah, maybe I need to do something like that again some time, eh?
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side.
    I am right by your side.
  • teegan31
    teegan31 Southwestern ON Posts: 126
    Grateful and humbled to be celebrating 11 years clean today. :)

    Good for you!