This will be his answer. "We did the best we could with getting as much as we could for the fans of South America. It is what it is".
We all know how much Tim loves a good sob story.
Does somebody pay you to act like this? It seems you enjoy bothering the others...like a teen that thinks he knows it all...
Please, smoke a joint and live more positively!
I'm just disappointed. The most important thing about PJ for me is that their music meant something, they had a message and an attitude, for me, the way things are going, well, just makes me think they're not that anymore.
I will go to the show, but the pride I had, of being a fan of this band, just died. They will pass now to the section of the "cool sounding bands", leaving the GREATESTS BANDS OF ALL section. SAD, just SAD.
btw, it's not the just early access thing (although giving that, would show they at least still value their fans), but the prices, premium sections, etc.
How many PJ concerts did you have the chance to go to? This is their 2nd time in Brazil, I'm one of the fortunate people who got the chance to travel to see them in Australia, but many can't even consider this possibility.
f*ckyeah, anna. "thanks god PJ thought about us and gave the glory to come to Brazil"..
cause if it depends of some fans.. there will not be "sharing" about it..
we're together on this. we'll fight about fans interests.
if was with you, you'll gonna be ok, simply like that, redmoskito22??
♪ we all believe it
...
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 28, 2005) Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2011) Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2015) Rio de Janeiro, Brasil (March 21, 2018)
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I have never seen so much complaining with every single big news event that happens with this band. It's hysterical. They are going to a part of the world they don't have to go to and when they announce a tour all it is is complaining about no early entry.
PJ20 complaining all over the place about where, when, why and how much.
Bottom line is if you don't like what they are doing, don't support it. It's that simple. If it's too expensive, don't buy it. Very easy.
Just expand it to ... "If you don't like to read complaints, then don't come in these threads, it's that simple. Very easy."
No one is forcing you to be in this thread ... it it annoys you, then don't respond.
It's my feeling you're getting off on being the contrarian though. Just let the Latin Americans have their say and don't feel the need to stifle it. You're not the 10c and nothing you can say will ease the concerns of these members.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
yes, but that was different: tom and zak asked the organizers to remove the VIP section (cause artists CAN DO THAT, you know?), and they did it in buenos aires. when RATM received a negative answer from chile, tom asked via twitter to tear down the fences.
it doesn't seem to be the same situtation here... unfortunately!
I'm just disappointed. The most important thing about PJ for me is that their music meant something, they had a message and an attitude, for me, the way things are going, well, just makes me think they're not that anymore.
I will go to the show, but the pride I had, of being a fan of this band, just died. They will pass now to the section of the "cool sounding bands", leaving the GREATESTS BANDS OF ALL section. SAD, just SAD.
btw, it's not the just early access thing (although giving that, would show they at least still value their fans), but the prices, premium sections, etc.
yeah, guz.. i'm really thinking about it..
dedication without recognition.
sad.
♪ we all believe it
...
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 28, 2005) Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2011) Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2015) Rio de Janeiro, Brasil (March 21, 2018)
This will be his answer. "We did the best we could with getting as much as we could for the fans of South America. It is what it is".
We all know how much Tim loves a good sob story.
Does somebody pay you to act like this? It seems you enjoy bothering the others...like a teen that thinks he knows it all...
Please, smoke a joint and live more positively!
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yes, but that was different: tom and zak asked the organizers to remove the VIP section (cause artists CAN DO THAT, you know?), and they did it in buenos aires. when RATM received a negative answer from chile, tom asked via twitter to tear down the fences.
it doesn't seem to be the same situtation here... unfortunately!
This is to stand by what you believe! It's not just words in a song. It's a way of leaving.
It's a way to show that GREED has no place here.
I´m very disappointed with this ticket system and with the fact there won´t be any wristbands...
I´m even thinking of not renewing my membership next year...
In 2005 everything was perfect... we bought the tickets and we arrived earlier in the venues to collect our wristbands...
Can anyone explain (and duly justify) why this time will be different?
Honestly, I was thinking of going to 6 shows (all in Brazil and 1 in Argetina)... now I just don´t know...
I just don´t think it´s fair with all 10C members from South America... You guys have no idea how people act before entering the venues here... Unfortunately there are a lot of people who doesn´t respect the lines, sometimes even the police can´t make them respect the lines...
I know I´m just one... and I know probably you won´t do anything about it... (who cares anyway? it´s all about money, huh?)
Pre-sale and no wristband? That´s not a big deal for us brazilian members...
Hopefully the no wristband problem will be addressed by the Ten Club. I feel for you guys and I think it's bullshit to be honest. In my heart though I believe there is a reason other than money the band and/or Ten Club couldn't take care of it yet...and notice I said yet because hopefully they can and will change this policy for you guys.
I´m very disappointed with this ticket system and with the fact there won´t be any wristbands...
I´m even thinking of not renewing my membership next year...
In 2005 everything was perfect... we bought the tickets and we arrived earlier in the venues to collect our wristbands...
Can anyone explain (and duly justify) why this time will be different?
Honestly, I was thinking of going to 6 shows (all in Brazil and 1 in Argetina)... now I just don´t know...
I just don´t think it´s fair with all 10C members from South America... You guys have no idea how people act before entering the venues here... Unfortunately there are a lot of people who doesn´t respect the lines, sometimes even the police can´t make them respect the lines...
I know I´m just one... and I know probably you won´t do anything about it... (who cares anyway? it´s all about money, huh?)
Pre-sale and no wristband? That´s not a big deal for us brazilian members...
Very sad... very sad...
I was planning on taking vacation from work to do the very same.
I am also having second thoughts.
Maybe I should start downloading free stuff off the internet, stop buying official merchandise and CDs and such. Maybe I should stop being an idiot that purchased both Deluxe boxes... all DVDs and such... and invest my money on dead people work.
im losing my hope, i receive the same email from 10c, a ironic copy and paste on our messages
"Hi Erika,
There will not be early entry wristbands on this tour, however by purchasing through the fan cub pre-sale you will have access to purchase any level of tickets you want.
You can choose.
I´m very disappointed with this ticket system and with the fact there won´t be any wristbands...
I´m even thinking of not renewing my membership next year...
In 2005 everything was perfect... we bought the tickets and we arrived earlier in the venues to collect our wristbands...
Can anyone explain (and duly justify) why this time will be different?
Honestly, I was thinking of going to 6 shows (all in Brazil and 1 in Argetina)... now I just don´t know...
I just don´t think it´s fair with all 10C members from South America... You guys have no idea how people act before entering the venues here... Unfortunately there are a lot of people who doesn´t respect the lines, sometimes even the police can´t make them respect the lines...
I know I´m just one... and I know probably you won´t do anything about it... (who cares anyway? it´s all about money, huh?)
Pre-sale and no wristband? That´s not a big deal for us brazilian members...
Very sad... very sad...
Hey Ju, you´re not alone.
We are here to suport everyone that doesn´t think this system works. I was six year ago with you and our Brazilian Fan Club. Like you I don´t undertand why they are doing this. Unfortunetly we don´t have a lot of chances do see the band like then in USA or Europe, so they don´t understand how is dificulty to us.
Alfredo Lucas
2005 (Porto Alegre, Curitiba, São Paulo e Rio)
2011 (Porto Alegre, Curitiba, São Paulo e Rio)
Hopefully the no wristband problem will be addressed by the Ten Club. I feel for you guys and I think it's bullshit to be honest. In my heart though I believe there is a reason other than money the band and/or Ten Club couldn't take care of it yet...and notice I said yet because hopefully they can and will change this policy for you guys.
Deep in my heart I still believe they will give us wristbands to get in the venues before the general crowd... but if they don´t... well... I can only tell PJ will have 1 fan less...
I´m very disappointed with this ticket system and with the fact there won´t be any wristbands...
I´m even thinking of not renewing my membership next year...
In 2005 everything was perfect... we bought the tickets and we arrived earlier in the venues to collect our wristbands...
Can anyone explain (and duly justify) why this time will be different?
Honestly, I was thinking of going to 6 shows (all in Brazil and 1 in Argetina)... now I just don´t know...
I just don´t think it´s fair with all 10C members from South America... You guys have no idea how people act before entering the venues here... Unfortunately there are a lot of people who doesn´t respect the lines, sometimes even the police can´t make them respect the lines...
I know I´m just one... and I know probably you won´t do anything about it... (who cares anyway? it´s all about money, huh?)
Pre-sale and no wristband? That´s not a big deal for us brazilian members...
Very sad... very sad...
Hey Ju, you´re not alone.
We are here to suport everyone that doesn´t think this system works. I was six year ago with you and our Brazilian Fan Club. Like you I don´t undertand why they are doing this. Unfortunetly we don´t have a lot of chances do see the band like then in USA or Europe, so they don´t understand how is dificulty to us.
The same for me, i could go to the 6 six shows in Brazil, but without the wristband for us, its could be more tiring than i can bear...
i m here alot...but this is the most respectfull to the band and 10c "complaining" thread i ever read..
those latinos attitude is just great..i have no words guys..hope all work in the end and you get what you deserve..10c please give it a shot..try for this great fans..its so pitty things stay the way is now..i know 10c dont want fans feel this way....and they dont feel mad..they feel sad...you can make them happy..lets think positive
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
For Chilean fans the benefit is not such, the 10C membership is not too Big, so added to the big venue, there shouldn’t be a problem getting our tickets.
Although is great to be able to buy thicket with anticipation, this time is not so attractive, since a mobile phone company is selling tickets 3 days latter with a 20% discount...
So... the way I see it, we are getting NO EARLY ENTRANCE and tickets at higher prices.... god I'm I glad I pay for my membership during the last 6 years.....
If we´re talking right now is just because we know exactly how things will happen... our reality here is totally different from US...
I can see 3 problems here:
1 - Risk of Pre-Sale code leak...
2 - 10C members unable to buy the ticket (if you don´t know, T4F site collapsed during U2 ticket sell and LOTS of people couldn´t buy the tickets...)
3 - 10C members wristbands...
As far as I know, we´re are used to the first 2 problems and we can handle it well... but we can´t accept the fact we won´t get wristbands!!!
i m here alot...but this is the most respectfull to the band and 10c "complaining" thread i ever read..
those latinos attitude is just great..i have no words guys..hope all work in the end and you get what you deserve..10c please give it a shot..try for this great fans..its so pitty things stay the way is now..i know 10c dont want fans feel this way....and they dont feel mad..they feel sad...you can make them happy..lets think positive
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Does somebody pay you to act like this? It seems you enjoy bothering the others...like a teen that thinks he knows it all...
Please, smoke a joint and live more positively!
That's easier said than done.
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More to Come....
I will go to the show, but the pride I had, of being a fan of this band, just died. They will pass now to the section of the "cool sounding bands", leaving the GREATESTS BANDS OF ALL section. SAD, just SAD.
btw, it's not the just early access thing (although giving that, would show they at least still value their fans), but the prices, premium sections, etc.
f*ckyeah, anna. "thanks god PJ thought about us and gave the glory to come to Brazil"..
cause if it depends of some fans.. there will not be "sharing" about it..
we're together on this. we'll fight about fans interests.
if was with you, you'll gonna be ok, simply like that, redmoskito22??
...
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2011)
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2015)
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil (March 21, 2018)
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Maybe you should follow your own advice ...
Just expand it to ... "If you don't like to read complaints, then don't come in these threads, it's that simple. Very easy."
No one is forcing you to be in this thread ... it it annoys you, then don't respond.
It's my feeling you're getting off on being the contrarian though. Just let the Latin Americans have their say and don't feel the need to stifle it. You're not the 10c and nothing you can say will ease the concerns of these members.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
yes, but that was different: tom and zak asked the organizers to remove the VIP section (cause artists CAN DO THAT, you know?), and they did it in buenos aires. when RATM received a negative answer from chile, tom asked via twitter to tear down the fences.
it doesn't seem to be the same situtation here... unfortunately!
hating indie crap since 1978
yeah, guz.. i'm really thinking about it..
dedication without recognition.
sad.
...
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2011)
Porto Alegre, Brazil (November 11, 2015)
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil (March 21, 2018)
I'm high on life.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
OH MY God!! I hope this does not happen! :(
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
Great! That´s the best new i´ve read on years!
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This is to stand by what you believe! It's not just words in a song. It's a way of leaving.
It's a way to show that GREED has no place here.
Wish PJ would do the same.
I´m even thinking of not renewing my membership next year...
In 2005 everything was perfect... we bought the tickets and we arrived earlier in the venues to collect our wristbands...
Can anyone explain (and duly justify) why this time will be different?
Honestly, I was thinking of going to 6 shows (all in Brazil and 1 in Argetina)... now I just don´t know...
I just don´t think it´s fair with all 10C members from South America... You guys have no idea how people act before entering the venues here... Unfortunately there are a lot of people who doesn´t respect the lines, sometimes even the police can´t make them respect the lines...
I know I´m just one... and I know probably you won´t do anything about it... (who cares anyway? it´s all about money, huh?)
Pre-sale and no wristband? That´s not a big deal for us brazilian members...
Very sad... very sad...
I truly hope somethign gets done and we receive a fair treatment.
I was planning on taking vacation from work to do the very same.
I am also having second thoughts.
Maybe I should start downloading free stuff off the internet, stop buying official merchandise and CDs and such. Maybe I should stop being an idiot that purchased both Deluxe boxes... all DVDs and such... and invest my money on dead people work.
"Hi Erika,
There will not be early entry wristbands on this tour, however by purchasing through the fan cub pre-sale you will have access to purchase any level of tickets you want.
You can choose.
...
"
=(
Hey Ju, you´re not alone.
We are here to suport everyone that doesn´t think this system works. I was six year ago with you and our Brazilian Fan Club. Like you I don´t undertand why they are doing this. Unfortunetly we don´t have a lot of chances do see the band like then in USA or Europe, so they don´t understand how is dificulty to us.
Alfredo Lucas
2005 (Porto Alegre, Curitiba, São Paulo e Rio)
2011 (Porto Alegre, Curitiba, São Paulo e Rio)
Deep in my heart I still believe they will give us wristbands to get in the venues before the general crowd... but if they don´t... well... I can only tell PJ will have 1 fan less...
The same for me, i could go to the 6 six shows in Brazil, but without the wristband for us, its could be more tiring than i can bear...
More concerts, more organized, more rights to 10C members, marked seats...
You will have one more competitor for the lotery seats soon redmosquito22!!! HAHAHA
10c don't care for Latin American fans...it's a shame!
50 bucks every year for nothing...
The site of t4f is terrible. It will collapse and many 10c members will not buy the ticket at the pre-sale day.
those latinos attitude is just great..i have no words guys..hope all work in the end and you get what you deserve..10c please give it a shot..try for this great fans..its so pitty things stay the way is now..i know 10c dont want fans feel this way....and they dont feel mad..they feel sad...you can make them happy..lets think positive
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Although is great to be able to buy thicket with anticipation, this time is not so attractive, since a mobile phone company is selling tickets 3 days latter with a 20% discount...
So... the way I see it, we are getting NO EARLY ENTRANCE and tickets at higher prices.... god I'm I glad I pay for my membership during the last 6 years.....
Thank 10c
I can see 3 problems here:
1 - Risk of Pre-Sale code leak...
2 - 10C members unable to buy the ticket (if you don´t know, T4F site collapsed during U2 ticket sell and LOTS of people couldn´t buy the tickets...)
3 - 10C members wristbands...
As far as I know, we´re are used to the first 2 problems and we can handle it well... but we can´t accept the fact we won´t get wristbands!!!
Thanks for you support!!!
and what about the wristbands? it is not fair that we don't get same benefits as US and Europe members...
please? pleasy please?