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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 75785.stor
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."

    State-sanctioned murder is not an act of a civilized society.
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    "Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Byrnzie wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 75785.stor
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."

    State-sanctioned murder is not an act of a civilized society.


    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story
    ummm...i could be wrong, but,

    i thought justice was served when the sentence has been carried out??


    True, very true. So sad that for years now we'll be feeding this piece of shit and letting him breathe another day. But at least he can sit around and wait for his own fate.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story
    ummm...i could be wrong, but,

    i thought justice was served when the sentence has been carried out??


    True, very true. So sad that for years now we'll be feeding this piece of shit and letting him breathe another day. But at least he can sit around and wait for his own fate.
    who all did he hurt & take their life?
    mom and kids?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited November 2010
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."

    Murder the murderer, right?

    Maybe the fact that the state condones murder has something to do with why murder is so widespread in your country?
    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Byrnzie wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."

    Murder the murderer, right?


    JUSTICE!!!!!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."

    Murder the murderer, right?


    JUSTICE!!!!!

    Are you God?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    theres an awful lot of venom in ths thread.

    i know you sll have your reasons for thinking the way you do about this topic, but personally i cant justify to myself the taking of the life of another. and therefore i project that out into my society. if someone i loved was murdered id want the killer dead. of course i would. id be so emotional and wrought with hysteria, anguish that i wouldnt be able to think straight. and so retribution would be foremost in my mind. but then id calm down, work through my grief and remember that an eye for an eye isnt something i can condone. it wont bring back my loved one and itd cause another family the same anguish i felt. who wants that kind of paying it forward??

    for all the talk about man not being an animal i hear too much baying for blood and i dont want to be anywhere near it. nor do i want such negativity around me and i dont want it around my children and grandchild.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "In a civilized society, people need to be responsible for their actions."


    " ... the moral contradiction inherent in a policy which imitates the violence it claims to abhor and in fact premeditates it."
    - Albert Camus


    America isn't a civilized society. A civilized society doesn't commit murder in the name of justice.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,253
    i am confused.

    if someone kills another person we call it "murder".

    if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".

    at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?

    you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am confused.

    if someone kills another person we call it "murder".

    if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".

    at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?

    you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....



    Yes


































    you are confused :D
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    It's not that hard to understand. If someone kills an innocent human being(especially a child) for just the pleasure it gives them, it is called murder. By removing this person from society it makes it justice.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story
    sickening
    i feel terrible
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am confused.

    if someone kills another person we call it "murder".

    if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".

    at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?

    you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....

    youre confused because of the hypocrisy of it all. 8-)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."

    This is what he should have said

    Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, while her house was surrounded by gutless cowards from the Cheshire Police Dept.
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    edited November 2010
    chadwick wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Justice is served!

    http://www.courant.com/community/cheshi ... 5785.story
    sickening
    i feel terrible
    Post edited by OnTheEdge on
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am confused.

    if someone kills another person we call it "murder".

    if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".

    at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?

    you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....

    It's got nothing to do with justice. It comes down to the fact of living in a society which was founded on genocide, and that bases it's beliefs on a confused interpretation of a 2000 year old Middle Eastern religion whose vengeful God had no qualms about committing abitrary mass slaughter.

    This, coupled with a fearful population obsessed with violence, means that for many people the death penalty is not only perfectly acceptable, but is something to froth at the mouth over, and write poetry about.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    "Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, surrounded by her stuffed animals."

    This is what he should have said

    Michaela was an 11-year-old little girl. She was tortured and killed in her own bedroom, while her house was surrounded by gutless cowards from the Cheshire Police Dept.
    this is getting bad
    this story makes me sick

    can we skip it
    uncool like it hit me like a ton of bricks, uncool... that's how ill it makes a guy
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,253
    catefrances wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am confused.

    if someone kills another person we call it "murder".

    if the state kills a person it is considered "justice".

    at what point does murder = justice?? and since a life is ended deliberately by direct means in both cases, how can one argue that the death penalty is justice instead of murder?

    you can't have a death penalty without committing a murder in the process of carrying out the sentence....

    youre confused because of the hypocrisy of it all. 8-)
    exactly....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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