So right now the big news in the metal world is the Big Four tour, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. Who would you pick as the big "Grunge" Four? (and don't slag me for using the oft-maligned term "grunge", you know what I mean!). And if Nirvana were in your list, who should sing for them, if at all?
1) Pearl Jam
2) Soundgarden
3) ?
4) ?
1. PJ
2. Soundgarden
3. Garbage (I love Shirley's voice)
4. Seven Mary Three
(I'm a geek, I know)
Oh, and I read somewhere that Dave doesn't listen to Nirvana's music anymore, too many painful memories or something :(
Seven Mary Three? Sorry, to each their own, but ICK!
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you cannot have "Grunge" without Alice In Chains or IMO being from Seattle So sorry STP
1. Nirvana (singing for KC would be TRENT REZNOR as you have to be able to SCREAM to sing Nirvana right)
2. AIC
3. PJ
4. Soundgarden
well, Eddie's not from seattle.
And Trent Reznor would suck as Kurt. Daniel Johns from Silverchair (and not because of the physical resemblance either) would be the only choice for me to front Nirvana. Or the guy from Seether, since he's so obsessed with Kurt and grunge in general.
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So right now the big news in the metal world is the Big Four tour, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. Who would you pick as the big "Grunge" Four? (and don't slag me for using the oft-maligned term "grunge", you know what I mean!). And if Nirvana were in your list, who should sing for them, if at all?
1) Pearl Jam
2) Soundgarden
3) ?
4) ?
1. PJ
2. Soundgarden
3. Garbage (I love Shirley's voice)
4. Seven Mary Three
(I'm a geek, I know)
Oh, and I read somewhere that Dave doesn't listen to Nirvana's music anymore, too many painful memories or something :(
Seven Mary Three? Sorry, to each their own, but ICK!
I already told you I was a geek...fine then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge
pick a band from the wiki list...I take Gruntruck, apparently STP is grunge...go figure!
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I already told you I was a geek...fine then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge
pick a band from the wiki list...I take Gruntruck, apparently STP is grunge...go figure!
I gotta youtube some Gruntruck or drop by my mom's house to find the old cassette.
1) Pearl Jam
2) Alice In Chains
3) Nirvana
4) Candlebox
Of course Layne Staley was a great and classic respected singer, but has anyone else seen new AIC live? DuVall brings it! He's amazing. Great live show.
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Living in Seattle during the Mid-90's was an AMAZING time!!
And I know that technically they're not "GRUNGE" but to ME,
Sunny Day Real Estate could be on the list!!
They also got back together for a mini-tour last year that was AWESOME!!!
Jeremy Enigk's solo projects are great too...
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
Living in Seattle during the Mid-90's was an AMAZING time!!
And I know that technically they're not "GRUNGE" but to ME,
Sunny Day Real Estate could be on the list!!
They also got back together for a mini-tour last year that was AWESOME!!!
Jeremy Enigk's solo projects are great too...
I love Jeremy! He was in my art class in high school!...wow, you're bringing back memories for me! (gawd I'm old!)
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
Living in Seattle during the Mid-90's was an AMAZING time!!
And I know that technically they're not "GRUNGE" but to ME,
Sunny Day Real Estate could be on the list!!
They also got back together for a mini-tour last year that was AWESOME!!!
Jeremy Enigk's solo projects are great too...
I love Jeremy! He was in my art class in high school!...wow, you're bringing back memories for me! (gawd I'm old!)
Your only as old as you want to be!!
Jeremy is GREAT...
We've seen him 3 times in the past 2 years..
He's getting better with age!
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
I'd say 3 of them (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice) are locks.
The fourth band should be a matter of arithmetic:
PJ + SG = TEMPLE OF THE FREAKING DOG
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If we are talking a live show the Big 4 would Foo fighters be acceptible for Nirvana's spot? Just saying cause It's Dave's band. Pat Smear was also a founding member of FF and toured with Nirvana as an additional guitarist.
Pat has rejoined Foo fighters or did as an additional musician for awhile- He may still be on tours if they still do acoustic bits but not sure.
In terms of Bands though popularizing Grunge it's Def
Nirvana
Pearl jam
AIC
Soundgarden.
That's just how it got globalized, but I agree that Mudhoney had some real influence, and technically should have gotten more publicity then they did in terms of a music revolution.
would anyone consider the Pumpkins this group? it's been widely debated that they were. I personally think they were not, even though they were huge in the same time frame.
while i think the pumpkins sound probably best embodies the spirit of the 90's i would say no
a few too many "artsy" nuances to be grunge IMO... doesn't really have that punk inspiration i think is vital to the sound
surely you would rather see them then a non-layne AIC?! i know i would
Having seen both, AIC still kill it! Both were amazing, but AIC are still as strong as ever, if not stronger. As strong as AIC were circa 92.
I agree, a "Big Four" should blow minds, but I don't know hwo the relationship is with STP and the other bands. I imagine it would be OK, as I think AIC just played with them. Mudhoney as the opener may make more sense. Or the Smashing Pumpkins deserve a spot on that bill! Maybe a big 6 instead!
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surely you would rather see them then a non-layne AIC?! i know i would
Having seen both, AIC still kill it! Both were amazing, but AIC are still as strong as ever, if not stronger. As strong as AIC were circa 92.
I agree, a "Big Four" should blow minds, but I don't know hwo the relationship is with STP and the other bands. I imagine it would be OK, as I think AIC just played with them. Mudhoney as the opener may make more sense. Or the Smashing Pumpkins deserve a spot on that bill! Maybe a big 6 instead!
why would STP have bad relations with the rest of the bands in this discussion?
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
So right now the big news in the metal world is the Big Four tour, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. Who would you pick as the big "Grunge" Four? (and don't slag me for using the oft-maligned term "grunge", you know what I mean!). And if Nirvana were in your list, who should sing for them, if at all?
1) Pearl Jam
2) Soundgarden
3) ?
4) ?
To me the big 4 Seattle bands were always Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden and AIC.
Obviously Nirvana can't tour, and I can't think of a seattle era band that was/is as big as those four.
Pumpkins or STP.. not really from seattle.. but they were in that era.
Mudhoney.. good.. but were never a BIG band like the 4 I listed.
So right now the big news in the metal world is the Big Four tour, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. Who would you pick as the big "Grunge" Four? (and don't slag me for using the oft-maligned term "grunge", you know what I mean!). And if Nirvana were in your list, who should sing for them, if at all?
1) Pearl Jam
2) Soundgarden
3) ?
4) ?
To me the big 4 Seattle bands were always Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden and AIC.
Obviously Nirvana can't tour, and I can't think of a seattle era band that was/is as big as those four.
Pumpkins or STP.. not really from seattle.. but they were in that era.
Mudhoney.. good.. but were never a BIG band like the 4 I listed.
Didn't Layne Staley or was it Jerry Cantrell say something back in the middle of the '90's that their music wasn't 'grunge' and they didn't want to be part of that movement? Must of been a Guitar World read or Spin read, but their music wasn't grungy at all. These guy's image was glamor rock & their music was hard rock.
Nirvana pretty much put the word 'grunge' way up to the heavens and exploded it outside North America lands. Every country, city & town on this planet that had a Nirvana sighting, experienced 'grunge' to it's finest. "Mark Arm, the vocalist for the Seattle band Green River—and later Mudhoney—is generally credited as being the first to use the term grunge to describe this sort of music." "Grunge is generally characterized by a sludgy guitar sound that uses a high level of distortion, fuzz and feedback effects. Grunge fuses elements of hardcore punk and heavy metal, although some bands performed with more emphasis on one or the other!"
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Seven Mary Three? Sorry, to each their own, but ICK!
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well, Eddie's not from seattle.
And Trent Reznor would suck as Kurt. Daniel Johns from Silverchair (and not because of the physical resemblance either) would be the only choice for me to front Nirvana. Or the guy from Seether, since he's so obsessed with Kurt and grunge in general.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I already told you I was a geek...fine then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge
pick a band from the wiki list...I take Gruntruck, apparently STP is grunge...go figure!
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They have little to do with grunge. With all due respect to Dave Grohl he's not a grunge icon on his own
Soundgarden
AIC
Pumpkins
Mudhoney
Mudhoney
Soundgarden
Pearl Jam
grunge never really existed
2) Alice In Chains
3) Nirvana
4) Candlebox
Of course Layne Staley was a great and classic respected singer, but has anyone else seen new AIC live? DuVall brings it! He's amazing. Great live show.
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And I know that technically they're not "GRUNGE" but to ME,
Sunny Day Real Estate could be on the list!!
They also got back together for a mini-tour last year that was AWESOME!!!
Jeremy Enigk's solo projects are great too...
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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I love Jeremy! He was in my art class in high school!...wow, you're bringing back memories for me! (gawd I'm old!)
- Christopher McCandless
Your only as old as you want to be!!
Jeremy is GREAT...
We've seen him 3 times in the past 2 years..
He's getting better with age!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Mudhoney
Alice In Chains
Soundarden
Pearl Jam
Encore TOTD/Green River
Agreed.
And with all due respect, I couldn't see Krist rockin out to Nirvana songs now.
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The fourth band should be a matter of arithmetic:
PJ + SG = TEMPLE OF THE FREAKING DOG
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In fact, I'll put in a resquest now: Next Aussie tour, please have Mudhoney open for Pearl Jam
Pat has rejoined Foo fighters or did as an additional musician for awhile- He may still be on tours if they still do acoustic bits but not sure.
In terms of Bands though popularizing Grunge it's Def
Nirvana
Pearl jam
AIC
Soundgarden.
That's just how it got globalized, but I agree that Mudhoney had some real influence, and technically should have gotten more publicity then they did in terms of a music revolution.
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2. Soundgarden
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4. Screaming Trees
a few too many "artsy" nuances to be grunge IMO... doesn't really have that punk inspiration i think is vital to the sound
PJ, SG, AIC, and mudhoney would be mine
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Having seen both, AIC still kill it! Both were amazing, but AIC are still as strong as ever, if not stronger. As strong as AIC were circa 92.
I agree, a "Big Four" should blow minds, but I don't know hwo the relationship is with STP and the other bands. I imagine it would be OK, as I think AIC just played with them. Mudhoney as the opener may make more sense. Or the Smashing Pumpkins deserve a spot on that bill! Maybe a big 6 instead!
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why would STP have bad relations with the rest of the bands in this discussion?
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
To me the big 4 Seattle bands were always Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden and AIC.
Obviously Nirvana can't tour, and I can't think of a seattle era band that was/is as big as those four.
Pumpkins or STP.. not really from seattle.. but they were in that era.
Mudhoney.. good.. but were never a BIG band like the 4 I listed.
Maybe it'd be better as a big 3 tour?
They were awesome back in the day...I saw them at ROCKITZ!!!
Are they still performing together??
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Nirvana pretty much put the word 'grunge' way up to the heavens and exploded it outside North America lands. Every country, city & town on this planet that had a Nirvana sighting, experienced 'grunge' to it's finest. "Mark Arm, the vocalist for the Seattle band Green River—and later Mudhoney—is generally credited as being the first to use the term grunge to describe this sort of music." "Grunge is generally characterized by a sludgy guitar sound that uses a high level of distortion, fuzz and feedback effects. Grunge fuses elements of hardcore punk and heavy metal, although some bands performed with more emphasis on one or the other!"
But for big bands of the early ninties then yes,
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Alice In Chains
Soundgarden
Smashing Pumpkins could very well replace Alice In Chains though.