Unreleased Pearl Jam Song "Better Days" Leaks

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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    edited June 2010
    HERE'S MY THEORY:

    ok, it's established there was a song recorded in the riot act sessions called better days and it clearly didn't make the album. now, monkeywrench was involved with and only with riot act. however, this song sounds nothing like the riot act era, especially ed. there is alot of production and usage of extra instruments and it is very "new" and uplifting sounding. also, on the monkeywrench website it said something like "gary, kelly wanted you to hear this". i say that pj re-recorded and re-worked this song for possibly backspacer or an ep after it or whatever and the people at monkeywrench remember the song and how it didnt make it, etc .. maybe they got word from kelly kurtis that the band re-worked it for something and one person from monkeywrench was showing another.

    so i say it is a riot act outtake that got re-recorded/re-arranged for either backspacer, an ep, or next album. brendan obrian must have done something with this.

    as far as the song i think it's simply phenomenal.
    incredibly uplifting and the lyrics are absolutely amazing.
    great work.
    start digging more stuff up! come on pj!
    Post edited by DiRtyFranK38 on
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  • thefin190
    thefin190 Posts: 918
    I really like the build up towards the end of the song. Its a great song, seems like it can be paired with the song Long Road.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    HERE'S MY THEORY:

    ok, it's established there was a song recorded in the riot act sessions called better days and it clearly didn't make the album. now, monkeywrench was involved with and only with riot act. however, this song sounds nothing like the riot act era, especially ed. there is alot of production and usage of extra instruments and it is very "new" and uplifting sounding. also, on the monkeywrench website it said something like gary, kelly wanted you to hear this. i say that pj re-recorded and re-worked this song for possibly backspacer or an ep after it or whatever and the people at monkeywrench remember the song and how it didnt make it, etc .. maybe they got word from kelly kurtis that the band re-worked it for something and one person from monkeywrench was showing another.

    so i say it is a riot act outtake that got re-recorded/re-arranged for either backspacer, an ep, or next album. brendan obrian must have done something with this.

    as far as the song i think it's simply phenomenal.
    incredibly uplifting and the lyrics are absolutely amazing.
    great work.
    start digging more stuff up! come on pj!

    that's a solid theory, i think.
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  • thefin190
    thefin190 Posts: 918
    edited June 2010
    mfc2006 wrote:
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    HERE'S MY THEORY:

    ok, it's established there was a song recorded in the riot act sessions called better days and it clearly didn't make the album. now, monkeywrench was involved with and only with riot act. however, this song sounds nothing like the riot act era, especially ed. there is alot of production and usage of extra instruments and it is very "new" and uplifting sounding. also, on the monkeywrench website it said something like gary, kelly wanted you to hear this. i say that pj re-recorded and re-worked this song for possibly backspacer or an ep after it or whatever and the people at monkeywrench remember the song and how it didnt make it, etc .. maybe they got word from kelly kurtis that the band re-worked it for something and one person from monkeywrench was showing another.

    so i say it is a riot act outtake that got re-recorded/re-arranged for either backspacer, an ep, or next album. brendan obrian must have done something with this.

    as far as the song i think it's simply phenomenal.
    incredibly uplifting and the lyrics are absolutely amazing.
    great work.
    start digging more stuff up! come on pj!

    that's a solid theory, i think.

    I would have to back that up too. Also, Ed's voice sounds absolutely incredible. He still has it!
    Post edited by thefin190 on
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  • O_G_D
    O_G_D Toronto Posts: 543
    An infant "Unknown Thought" no question IMO.
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  • MB50486
    MB50486 Posts: 243
    ITW that didn't make the cut. But a great song. Needs to be released
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Mike on sitar perhaps??
  • Bravejamriot
    Bravejamriot Posts: 217
    O_G_D wrote:
    An infant "Unknown Thought" no question IMO.

    Ed Played Unthought Known solo in Montreal. He mentioned that he had just written the song.
  • Laddie
    Laddie Posts: 311
    Nobody else got a No Code vibe from the song? the sitar made me think of the version of Long Road with Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn. I'm not saying this song is from No Code. I don't really care when its from. I would love to know the backstory just for the sake of pearl jam nerdery. All I definitely know is that I like it.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    surprised that this thread still exists...
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  • skyeriverwinter
    skyeriverwinter Posts: 1,902
    edited June 2010
    Bravejamriot wrote:
    O_G_D wrote:
    An infant "Unknown Thought" no question IMO.

    Ed Played Unthought Known solo in Montreal. He mentioned that he had just written the song.
    Ed played it in Newark first..


    but back to this new song...listening to it sounds like Ed now...listening to the lyrics...I wonder if it wasn't a song from Riot Act era that's been redone... maybe even partially rewritten...parts rhyme others don't...this song is beautiful full of everything just like the song speaks of... many different worlds...I hear Indian(india), Spanish... it's a bucket full of sounds layering all over each other culminating into a joyous uprising into a new and Better Days...


    My favorite line is (I hope it's ok to post this):

    Not running from something…I'm running towards the day…wide awake
    A whisper once quiet…Now rising to a scream…I am me.
    I'm falling… free fallin…World's calling me up off my knees



    this is what I hear anyway...I am not sure it's right....
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  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,639
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    surprised that this thread still exists...

    Kat made a post somewhere in this thread. They know it's here. We have been told not to post links to the where to find it, but otherwise discussion about the song seems to be okay.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • Spencer
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    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    ok, it's established there was a song recorded in the riot act sessions called better days and it clearly didn't make the album. now, monkeywrench was involved with and only with riot act.
    What the hell are you talking about? "Monkeywrench" in this sense refers to the band's record label, which is run by their management.
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    the people at monkeywrench remember the song and how it didnt make it, etc .. maybe they got word from kelly kurtis that the band re-worked it for something and one person from monkeywrench was showing another.
    "The people at Monkeywrench"? The people "at" Monkeywrench are just the band and their management. You're making this into more than it is - this is just a song that Pearl Jam's manager and Gary Westlake, another Curtis Management/PJ-related person, were passing around for whatever reason.
  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,639
    Right, and in fact Monkeywrench actually had nothing to do with Riot Act, it was all Sony. Monkeywrench is bascially everything since Riot Act. I think the Man of the Hour single might have been the first release on it, but I can't find it right now to confirm that. Otherwise I think Self-Titled was a Monkeywrench/J Records collaboration, Into the Wild was at least a Monkeywrench collab, and Backspacer was a Monkeywrench only record (with a little help from Target). But as he said above me, Monkeywrench is no one more than the band and their camp and management.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,639
    No links! That will be deleted.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • Spencer
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  • circlesdown
    circlesdown Posts: 310
    Laddie wrote:
    Nobody else got a No Code vibe from the song? the sitar made me think of the version of Long Road with Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn. I'm not saying this song is from No Code. I don't really care when its from. I would love to know the backstory just for the sake of pearl jam nerdery. All I definitely know is that I like it.

    I definitely got the No Code vibe too. I guess I would have to say it's only reminiscent of No Code and Long Road, but sounds like it was recorded recently. The vocals are way more 2009 than 1994 or 2002.
  • Veddernarian
    Veddernarian Posts: 1,924
    Anybody think that accordian sound may be a Hurdy-Gurdy?

    Plant/Page used a Hurdy-Gurdy very effectively on the No Quarter album. Also, it's that thing Page was playing in Song Remains the Same when he turned around and his eyes were red lights.
    Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
  • am195090
    am195090 Posts: 7
    Everyone keeps referring to the "guitar" solo. I don't see how I'm the only one to realize this, but it is definitely a mandolin there.
  • pearlhawk
    pearlhawk Posts: 638
    I love the lyrics. I'm just not a fan of the accordion/melody. Great lyrics, though. That's just my opinion. I'm glad others love it.
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