Plan to Build Mosque Near Ground Zero
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...aerial wrote:See how
You will never see how twisted your reasoning is....calling Americans hate groups when it’s the Muslim extremist that hate!.....have you not heard about this?
We are rebuilding were the war has devastated their nation (because it is a war) are the Muslims over here rebuilding the world trade center?
Christianity has its own personal hate group... it's called the 'Ku Klux Klan'. The Klan is to Christianity... as Al Qaeda is to Islam. Just as the Klan does NOT represent all of Christianity, all of Islam is not represented by Al Qaeda. Both the Klan and al Qaeda are extremist groups that stake claim to their respective religions. Just as only a fool will believes all Christians are Klansmen... only an idiot believes all Muslims are Al Qaeda.
American extremists such as the Klan and American Neo-Nazis hate. It is a small minority of Amercans, but, they ARE Americans.
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Side Note: As for 'rebuilding their country'... we wouldn't have to rebuild their country if we hadn't devestated it by bombing the shit out of it.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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scb wrote:Godfather. wrote:I am completely confused by some peoples willingness to give America away to anybody, then say it's ok that they have attacked our country and now want to build a mosiliem a few blocks from ground zero ? to me that's a slap in the face to all Americans especially those that lost loved ones in that attack, it's my opinion that anybody American or not that dosn't love our country enuff to stand up for it can move the country of their choice asap and in some countries the may be supperised how well they have it as Americans.
Godfather.
Maybe if I write it big enough you'll be able to get it through your fucking head:
THEY ARE AMERICANS TOO!
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.
hay cup cake your starting to crack.. you are starting to make this personal along with a few others so I'll ask you this...what the hell makes you think I will subscribe to your word twisting fucked up hippie bullshit ?
I have stated not all people are bad, I have no problem with anybody wanting to be Americans legally ,
if your gay or lesbian I don't give a fuck or if a person is red black yellow brown or white it's all the same to me !!!! every fuckin time I post ANYTHING you and your all knowing bullshit start running off at the key pad..
who the fuck do you think you are ? before you start trying to change my mind maybe you should try re-thinking your actions and comments. also telling me I'M NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.....DUHHHH ! but on this forum myself and Aerial seem to the only proud Americans, you and few others take the fact that you are American for granted and bitch and whine about the people of this country who stand up for it, your starting to make me sick with the hippie rant you and the others on this forum are spewing...can you get that through your FUCKING HEAD: ?????, so all this aside have nice day
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Cosmo wrote:
...Godfather. wrote:justam wrote:I think you're forgetting that we are a country of immigrants. The only people who were here BEFORE the immigrants were the native americans.
This idea that people who came later than your ancestors somehow are less American is false. No one is giving America away!! America has built itself as a place with people who have ancestors from all over.
I don't have a promlem with people wanting to be Americans and your right Americans built america...they came here to be Americans and help to build it not destory it,they gave up everything and left it behind with the country they left even changed their names to be Americans and learned our language, people on here don't think that's important anymore.
Godfather.
How is building a Mosque 'Destroying America'? What about Jew that come here and build Temples? Are they 'Destroying America' , too? Contrary to your strong belief, not every Muslim that comes here is a terrorist. Most of them DO want to assimilate to American society... which guarantees them the freedom of religion. Yet, you want to get rid of them all.
Or... is it your opinion that everyone that comes here needs to convert to Christianity?
more hippie bullshit cosmo ? the jews ? wtf have I said about the jewish people ? you and sbc can save your
crap for someone else.
Godfather.0 -
i would rather side with hippies than people like you who are the reason people hate this country. why are you so condescending and why are you name calling again? that all you have left...things are not as black and while and simplistic as you make them out to be. and who gives a shit if you are a "proud american"? i am a proud american but i choose to not delude myself into thinking that this country is perfect and that we never do anything wrong. there is a difference between being proud of your country and being blindly supportive of it. if you want a bunch of proud americans to post with perhaps you should visit the toby keith forum...or the stupid teabagger forums...or the forums that preach "american exceptionalism". that said, i hope they build this mosque and cultural center and that it actually serves to unite the community like it says it will. we will have to wait and see. either way you will not support it so you can just deal with it, ok cupcake?Godfather. wrote:hay cup cake your starting to crack.. you are starting to make this personal along with a few others so I'll ask you this...what the hell makes you think I will subscribe to your word twisting fucked up hippie bullshit ?
I have stated not all people are bad, I have no problem with anybody wanting to be Americans legally ,
if your gay or lesbian I don't give a fuck or if a person is red black yellow brown or white it's all the same to me !!!! every fuckin time I post ANYTHING you and your all knowing bullshit start running off at the key pad..
who the fuck do you think you are ? before you start trying to change my mind maybe you should try re-thinking your actions and comments. also telling me I'M NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.....DUHHHH ! but on this forum myself and Aerial seem to the only proud Americans, you and few others take the fact that you are American for granted and bitch and whine about the people of this country who stand up for it, your starting to make me sick with the hippie rant you and the others on this forum are spewing...can you get that through your FUCKING HEAD: ?????, so all this aside have nice day
Godfather."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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...Godfather wrote:Cosmo wrote:How is building a Mosque 'Destroying America'? What about Jew that come here and build Temples? Are they 'Destroying America' , too? Contrary to your strong belief, not every Muslim that comes here is a terrorist. Most of them DO want to assimilate to American society... which guarantees them the freedom of religion. Yet, you want to get rid of them all.
Or... is it your opinion that everyone that comes here needs to convert to Christianity?
more hippie bullshit cosmo ? the jews ? wtf have I said about the jewish people ? you and sbc can save your
crap for someone else.
Godfather.
Do you even listen to anything YOU say?
You say they come here to 'Destroy America".... I ask, "How is building a Mosque destroying America?" Are you saying that building Mosques destroys America? If so, then how is Muslims building a Mosques any different from Jews building a Temple? It's the same thing. If you believe that the Muslims should give up everything they left behind in Egypt, Lebannon, Iraq, etc... do you also think that Jews should also leave everything they left behind?Godfather. wrote:I don't have a promlem with people wanting to be Americans and your right Americans built america...they came here to be Americans and help to build it not destory it,they gave up everything and left it behind with the country they left even changed their names to be Americans and learned our language, people on here don't think that's important anymore.
Godfather.
That is the reasoning you are trying to invoke, here. And the only reason I ask you is because of the crap that YOU are saying. Things such as, 'Rounding them up and getting rid of them' and 'Coming here to destroy America'. You are saying the EXACT SAME things that people said about the Japanese here and the Germans said in Europe. To me, that is crap.
You think of yourself as a 'Proud American'... yet, crap on the foundations of America. The America I believe in is the one that opens doors of opportunity based upon freedom. The America you believe in groups all people, in this case, Muslims, into one group and wants to lay the blame of a few at the feet of the whole. Our basic difference is apparently I can distinguish between terrorists and Muslims and you cannot. If that is you opinion of being 'Hippie'... that's on you. Mine is more a belief on being American and believing in the principles that make our nation what it is. Not the tyranny you wish to impose on all Muslims... and others in America's past imposed on all of the Japanese... Whether you like it or not.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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being a legal american doesn't mean you have to give up your religion.
why can't they build mosques and temples in 'merica?
ps... bets on when this thread gets locked?live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
haffajappa can't take that bet bro LOL ! probably get locked soon.
I don't believe that it is wrong to build a temple in America but I do think it is a huge lack of respect to build the muslim temple so close to ground zero.
as for cosmo sbc and the others, you people keep twisting what I post and adding your own bullshit are you really that board or just need somebody to argue with who dose not follow along with your burnt out hippie bullshit ?
really you guys keep throwing in crap like the Jewish thing..wtf is that all about. if it's just a thing to attack me..bring it on, it's all opinion here and you guys seem to think that yours is all high and mighty well I got news for ya...it dose not me mean shit to me and other proud Americans so keep looking for reasons to fight the system in your own little world if thats what makes you all happy,go load up your bong and stare at the Abby Hoffman poster on your wall but don't try and sell it to me.
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Cosmo wrote:
...Godfather wrote:Cosmo wrote:How is building a Mosque 'Destroying America'? What about Jew that come here and build Temples? Are they 'Destroying America' , too? Contrary to your strong belief, not every Muslim that comes here is a terrorist. Most of them DO want to assimilate to American society... which guarantees them the freedom of religion. Yet, you want to get rid of them all.
Or... is it your opinion that everyone that comes here needs to convert to Christianity?
more hippie bullshit cosmo ? the jews ? wtf have I said about the jewish people ? you and sbc can save your
crap for someone else.
Godfather.
Do you even listen to anything YOU say?
You say they come here to 'Destroy America".... I ask, "How is building a Mosque destroying America?" Are you saying that building Mosques destroys America? If so, then how is Muslims building a Mosques any different from Jews building a Temple? It's the same thing. If you believe that the Muslims should give up everything they left behind in Egypt, Lebannon, Iraq, etc... do you also think that Jews should also leave everything they left behind?Godfather. wrote:I don't have a promlem with people wanting to be Americans and your right Americans built america...they came here to be Americans and help to build it not destory it,they gave up everything and left it behind with the country they left even changed their names to be Americans and learned our language, people on here don't think that's important anymore.
Godfather.
That is the reasoning you are trying to invoke, here. And the only reason I ask you is because of the crap that YOU are saying. Things such as, 'Rounding them up and getting rid of them' and 'Coming here to destroy America'. You are saying the EXACT SAME things that people said about the Japanese here and the Germans said in Europe. To me, that is crap.
You think of yourself as a 'Proud American'... yet, crap on the foundations of America. The America I believe in is the one that opens doors of opportunity based upon freedom. The America you believe in groups all people, in this case, Muslims, into one group and wants to lay the blame of a few at the feet of the whole. Our basic difference is apparently I can distinguish between terrorists and Muslims and you cannot. If that is you opinion of being 'Hippie'... that's on you. Mine is more a belief on being American and believing in the principles that make our nation what it is. Not the tyranny you wish to impose on all Muslims... and others in America's past imposed on all of the Japanese... Whether you like it or not.
what are you stoned ?
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:
i would rather side with hippies than people like you who are the reason people hate this country. why are you so condescending and why are you name calling again? that all you have left...things are not as black and while and simplistic as you make them out to be. and who gives a shit if you are a "proud american"? i am a proud american but i choose to not delude myself into thinking that this country is perfect and that we never do anything wrong. there is a difference between being proud of your country and being blindly supportive of it. if you want a bunch of proud americans to post with perhaps you should visit the toby keith forum...or the stupid teabagger forums...or the forums that preach "american exceptionalism". that said, i hope they build this mosque and cultural center and that it actually serves to unite the community like it says it will. we will have to wait and see. either way you will not support it so you can just deal with it, ok cupcake?Godfather. wrote:hay cup cake your starting to crack.. you are starting to make this personal along with a few others so I'll ask you this...what the hell makes you think I will subscribe to your word twisting fucked up hippie bullshit ?
I have stated not all people are bad, I have no problem with anybody wanting to be Americans legally ,
if your gay or lesbian I don't give a fuck or if a person is red black yellow brown or white it's all the same to me !!!! every fuckin time I post ANYTHING you and your all knowing bullshit start running off at the key pad..
who the fuck do you think you are ? before you start trying to change my mind maybe you should try re-thinking your actions and comments. also telling me I'M NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.....DUHHHH ! but on this forum myself and Aerial seem to the only proud Americans, you and few others take the fact that you are American for granted and bitch and whine about the people of this country who stand up for it, your starting to make me sick with the hippie rant you and the others on this forum are spewing...can you get that through your FUCKING HEAD: ?????, so all this aside have nice day
Godfather.
think I'll stick around to be a thorn in your hippie ass.........skippy
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Cosmo wrote:
...Godfather. wrote:justam wrote:I think you're forgetting that we are a country of immigrants. The only people who were here BEFORE the immigrants were the native americans.
This idea that people who came later than your ancestors somehow are less American is false. No one is giving America away!! America has built itself as a place with people who have ancestors from all over.
I don't have a promlem with people wanting to be Americans and your right Americans built america...they came here to be Americans and help to build it not destory it,they gave up everything and left it behind with the country they left even changed their names to be Americans and learned our language, people on here don't think that's important anymore.
Godfather.
How is building a Mosque 'Destroying America'? What about Jew that come here and build Temples? Are they 'Destroying America' , too? Contrary to your strong belief, not every Muslim that comes here is a terrorist. Most of them DO want to assimilate to American society... which guarantees them the freedom of religion. Yet, you want to get rid of them all.
Or... is it your opinion that everyone that comes here needs to convert to Christianity?
quote from cosmo: "I hope he is not allowed to preach about that whole anti-American/fundamentalist Islamic religion crap in open court. But, im guessing... he will.
And instead of the Death Penalty... how about a 297,300 year sentence with no parole eligability at Pelican Bay, California in the Neo-Nazi psychos cell block... and rooming with the multiple murderer who partially ate some of his victims?
That would make Camp X-Ray, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba look like a stint at Club Med."
I like it !! :thumbup:
I think your catching on.
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...Godfather. wrote:haffajappa can't take that bet bro LOL ! probably get locked soon.
I don't believe that it is wrong to build a temple in America but I do think it is a huge lack of respect to build the muslim temple so close to ground zero.
as for cosmo sbc and the others, you people keep twisting what I post and adding your own bullshit are you really that board or just need somebody to argue with who dose not follow along with your burnt out hippie bullshit ?
really you guys keep throwing in crap like the Jewish thing..wtf is that all about. if it's just a thing to attack me..bring it on, it's all opinion here and you guys seem to think that yours is all high and mighty well I got news for ya...it dose not me mean shit to me and other proud Americans so keep looking for reasons to fight the system in your own little world if thats what makes you all happy,go load up your bong and stare at the Abby Hoffman poster on your wall but don't try and sell it to me.
Godfather.
Then explain to me why is is okay to build Jewish Temples, but not okay to build Mosques... I am trying to get you to explain your reasoning.
All you can do is come up with moronic name calling when i am trying to figure out the warped logic you employ.
...
And if i am stoned and can come up with pointed opinions and you cannot come up with anything other than idiotic remarks... what are you telling everybody about yourself?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Godfather. wrote:haffajappa can't take that bet bro LOL ! probably get locked soon.
I don't believe that it is wrong to build a temple in America but I do think it is a huge lack of respect to build the muslim temple so close to ground zero.
as for cosmo sbc and the others, you people keep twisting what I post and adding your own bullshit are you really that board or just need somebody to argue with who dose not follow along with your burnt out hippie bullshit ?
really you guys keep throwing in crap like the Jewish thing..wtf is that all about. if it's just a thing to attack me..bring it on, it's all opinion here and you guys seem to think that yours is all high and mighty well I got news for ya...it dose not me mean shit to me and other proud Americans so keep looking for reasons to fight the system in your own little world if thats what makes you all happy,go load up your bong and stare at the Abby Hoffman poster on your wall but don't try and sell it to me.
Godfather.
they bring up the jewish thing because you seem to be wanting muslims to not be able to build a mosque, so in asking if this goes for any other religion they use a jewish synagogue/temple as an example. would you feel better if they changed it to buddhist temple?don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
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...Godfather. wrote:quote from cosmo: "I hope he is not allowed to preach about that whole anti-American/fundamentalist Islamic religion crap in open court. But, im guessing... he will.
And instead of the Death Penalty... how about a 297,300 year sentence with no parole eligability at Pelican Bay, California in the Neo-Nazi psychos cell block... and rooming with the multiple murderer who partially ate some of his victims?
That would make Camp X-Ray, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba look like a stint at Club Med."
I like it !! :thumbup:
I think your catching on.
Godfather.
When put into context... the subject matter were individual terrorists. Specifically, the John Belushi looking shiek being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba where I was not opposed to preserving the principles of American Justice. Because i believe in America remaining America and not giving into terrorist wishes and becoming less like us and more like them.
So, yes... i stand by those comments because i am speaking of individual terrorists.. not Muslims as a whole. And please, do not confuse my attitude towards known terrorists as coming around in agreement of your perverted view of what you perceive as Patriotism... because it's miles away from that.Post edited by Cosmo onAllen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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...Pepe Silvia wrote:Godfather. wrote:haffajappa can't take that bet bro LOL ! probably get locked soon.
I don't believe that it is wrong to build a temple in America but I do think it is a huge lack of respect to build the muslim temple so close to ground zero.
as for cosmo sbc and the others, you people keep twisting what I post and adding your own bullshit are you really that board or just need somebody to argue with who dose not follow along with your burnt out hippie bullshit ?
really you guys keep throwing in crap like the Jewish thing..wtf is that all about. if it's just a thing to attack me..bring it on, it's all opinion here and you guys seem to think that yours is all high and mighty well I got news for ya...it dose not me mean shit to me and other proud Americans so keep looking for reasons to fight the system in your own little world if thats what makes you all happy,go load up your bong and stare at the Abby Hoffman poster on your wall but don't try and sell it to me.
Godfather.
they bring up the jewish thing because you seem to be wanting muslims to not be able to build a mosque, so in asking if this goes for any other religion they use a jewish synagogue/temple as an example. would you feel better if they changed it to buddhist temple?
How come you (and others here) made the connection... but Godfather cannot? I thought i was being quite clear and very specific... the 3 times i stated it.
I guess I need to get the 'English to Glenn Beck' translation program in order to communicate with him. Any thoughts where I might locate it? I tried www.dumbfuck.com... but, it wasn't there.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Cosmo wrote:
...Pepe Silvia wrote:Godfather. wrote:haffajappa can't take that bet bro LOL ! probably get locked soon.
I don't believe that it is wrong to build a temple in America but I do think it is a huge lack of respect to build the muslim temple so close to ground zero.
as for cosmo sbc and the others, you people keep twisting what I post and adding your own bullshit are you really that board or just need somebody to argue with who dose not follow along with your burnt out hippie bullshit ?
really you guys keep throwing in crap like the Jewish thing..wtf is that all about. if it's just a thing to attack me..bring it on, it's all opinion here and you guys seem to think that yours is all high and mighty well I got news for ya...it dose not me mean shit to me and other proud Americans so keep looking for reasons to fight the system in your own little world if thats what makes you all happy,go load up your bong and stare at the Abby Hoffman poster on your wall but don't try and sell it to me.
Godfather.
they bring up the jewish thing because you seem to be wanting muslims to not be able to build a mosque, so in asking if this goes for any other religion they use a jewish synagogue/temple as an example. would you feel better if they changed it to buddhist temple?
How come you (and others here) made the connection... but Godfather cannot? I thought i was being quite clear and very specific... the 3 times i stated it.
I guess I need to get the 'English to Glenn Beck' translation program in order to communicate with him. Any thoughts where I might locate it? I tried http://www.dumbfuck.com... but, it wasn't there.
life would be so much simpler if we all had a chalkboard and magnets of democrats!don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'0 -
...that links everything to Hitler.Pepe Silvia wrote:life would be so much simpler if we all had a chalkboard and magnets of democrats!Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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are you going to reply to anything i said in that post or just sit there and wallow in your ignorance?Godfather. wrote:think I'll stick around to be a thorn in your hippie ass.........skippy
Godfather."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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i can't get the link to work.... :(Cosmo wrote:I guess I need to get the 'English to Glenn Beck' translation program in order to communicate with him. Any thoughts where I might locate it? I tried http://www.dumbfuck.com... but, it wasn't there.
the english to glenn beck translation would be as follows...."gimmesometruth27, scb, cosmo, pepe and happajappa all hate america....RADICAL MUSLIMS all hate america...therefore, gimmesometruth27, scb, cosmo, pepe and happajappa are all RADICAL MUSLIMS!!!! BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!""You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Godfather. wrote:scb wrote:Godfather. wrote:I am completely confused by some peoples willingness to give America away to anybody, then say it's ok that they have attacked our country and now want to build a mosiliem a few blocks from ground zero ? to me that's a slap in the face to all Americans especially those that lost loved ones in that attack, it's my opinion that anybody American or not that dosn't love our country enuff to stand up for it can move the country of their choice asap and in some countries the may be supperised how well they have it as Americans.
Godfather.
Maybe if I write it big enough you'll be able to get it through your fucking head:
THEY ARE AMERICANS TOO!
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.
hay cup cake your starting to crack.. you are starting to make this personal along with a few others so I'll ask you this...what the hell makes you think I will subscribe to your word twisting fucked up hippie bullshit ?
I have stated not all people are bad, I have no problem with anybody wanting to be Americans legally ,
if your gay or lesbian I don't give a fuck or if a person is red black yellow brown or white it's all the same to me !!!! every fuckin time I post ANYTHING you and your all knowing bullshit start running off at the key pad..
who the fuck do you think you are ? before you start trying to change my mind maybe you should try re-thinking your actions and comments. also telling me I'M NOT THE ONLY AMERICAN.....DUHHHH ! but on this forum myself and Aerial seem to the only proud Americans, you and few others take the fact that you are American for granted and bitch and whine about the people of this country who stand up for it, your starting to make me sick with the hippie rant you and the others on this forum are spewing...can you get that through your FUCKING HEAD: ?????, so all this aside have nice day
Godfather.
You're right - I am starting to crack. I'm just sick of your and aerial's attitudes that you get to RE-define what it means to be American, to be a proud American, and to stick up for America. As far as I'm concerned, you are the ones who don't stick up for the United States and what it stands for. I'm starting to think there's no room in this country for people like y'all, who, if left to propogate your hateful, un-American ideas, will be the ruin of this country. So, yes, I am pissed... I'm pissed that your arrogance and ignorance is ruining my great nation, and that you seem to be getting away with it.
P.S. Cupcake is one word. You are is abbreviated you're, not your. If you are going to act like you represent the United States, please learn our language. I'm not kidding.0 -
Godfather. wrote:Cosmo wrote:...
How is building a Mosque 'Destroying America'? What about Jew that come here and build Temples? Are they 'Destroying America' , too? Contrary to your strong belief, not every Muslim that comes here is a terrorist. Most of them DO want to assimilate to American society... which guarantees them the freedom of religion. Yet, you want to get rid of them all.
Or... is it your opinion that everyone that comes here needs to convert to Christianity?
more hippie bullshit cosmo ? the jews ? wtf have I said about the jewish people ? you and sbc can save your
crap for someone else.
Godfather.
My name is scb, not sbc. And just because Cosmo is able to understand the world beyond the tip of his own nose does not make him a hippie. (Not that there's anything wrong with being a hippie...)Post edited by _ on0
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