10club lying about extra stuff with Backspacer?

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  • on2legs wrote:
    Before you complain about this nonsense... stop for a minute and think about all the stuff that they do for fans and make available to us.


    Such as? As far as I know...everything they do for us is for a fee.


    I for one bought the CD from the Ten Club BECAUSE they promised us free downloads different from the Target ones. I didn't need a hardback book. I figured they would hook us up with some of the shows from the supposed vault they told us about 5 years ago but they just swept it under the rug and lied about it for lack of a better word. It's not so much the lie it's how people start these threads and they just ignore us.

    If you buy a TV and it says it comes with a remote and it doesn't, do you talk about how much Panasonic does for you?

    I honestly thought they promised something with the 10C version before everyone started bitching. I could care less, but I thought they did. I don't really care about boots of shows I wasn't at anyways. I'm not a DMB fan. :lol:
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    edited April 2010
    on2legs wrote:
    Before you complain about this nonsense... stop for a minute and think about all the stuff that they do for fans and make available to us.


    Such as? As far as I know...everything they do for us is for a fee.


    I for one bought the CD from the Ten Club BECAUSE they promised us free downloads different from the Target ones. I didn't need a hardback book. I figured they would hook us up with some of the shows from the supposed vault they told us about 5 years ago but they just swept it under the rug and lied about it for lack of a better word. It's not so much the lie it's how people start these threads and they just ignore us.

    If you buy a TV and it says it comes with a remote and it doesn't, do you talk about how much Panasonic does for you?


    They never promised any shows from the vault. The vault never really even actually opened except for one show.

    I think they do the best they can... most of the time they succeed brilliantly and once in awhile they come up short. I think that describes most people on this board. Cut them some slack.

    But I think what you are implying is that they deliberately are trying to mislead people or defraud people which is definitely not what's going on.

    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.
    Post edited by on2legs on
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  • on2legs wrote:
    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.

    it really fucking bugs me when people attempt to derail someone's opinion because there is other stuff going on in the world that is worse than this. OF COURSE THERE IS. GET OVER YOURSELF. Then the next time you get into a car accident and your passenger dies, I don't want to hear you whine about it because there is genocide happening in Africa.

    What a ridiculous way of thinking.
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  • gndcd402
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    on2legs wrote:
    They never promised any shows from the vault.

    I think they do the best they can... most of the time they succeed brilliantly and once in awhile they come up short.

    But I think what you are implying is that they deliberately are trying to mislead people or defraud people which is definitely not what's going on.

    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.
    you've gone to the dark side luke...
  • on2legs
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    on2legs wrote:
    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.

    it really fucking bugs me when people attempt to derail someone's opinion because there is other stuff going on in the world that is worse than this. OF COURSE THERE IS. GET OVER YOURSELF. Then the next time you get into a car accident and your passenger dies, I don't want to hear you whine about it because there is genocide happening in Africa.

    What a ridiculous way of thinking.


    I agree with you in theory except when the person is whining worse than a two year old about something so tiny and inconsequential then its appropriate to pull the "be happy you're not starving in Africa with a bloated belly and flies crawling on you" card.
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    gndcd402 wrote:
    on2legs wrote:
    They never promised any shows from the vault.

    I think they do the best they can... most of the time they succeed brilliantly and once in awhile they come up short.

    But I think what you are implying is that they deliberately are trying to mislead people or defraud people which is definitely not what's going on.

    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.
    you've gone to the dark side luke...


    What are you talking about?

    That's my real photo!
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  • on2legs wrote:
    on2legs wrote:
    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.

    it really fucking bugs me when people attempt to derail someone's opinion because there is other stuff going on in the world that is worse than this. OF COURSE THERE IS. GET OVER YOURSELF. Then the next time you get into a car accident and your passenger dies, I don't want to hear you whine about it because there is genocide happening in Africa.

    What a ridiculous way of thinking.


    I agree with you in theory except when the person is whining worse than a two year old about something so tiny and inconsequential then its appropriate to pull the "be happy you're not starving in Africa with a bloated belly and flies crawling on you" card.
    the only one who sounds like they are whining is you.
  • on2legs wrote:
    on2legs wrote:
    Seriously... if this is the worst injustice in your life then you are leading a pretty charmed existence and I would be thanking your maker instead of being here on a message board complaining about some perceived slight by the 10 Club.

    it really fucking bugs me when people attempt to derail someone's opinion because there is other stuff going on in the world that is worse than this. OF COURSE THERE IS. GET OVER YOURSELF. Then the next time you get into a car accident and your passenger dies, I don't want to hear you whine about it because there is genocide happening in Africa.

    What a ridiculous way of thinking.


    I agree with you in theory except when the person is whining worse than a two year old about something so tiny and inconsequential then its appropriate to pull the "be happy you're not starving in Africa with a bloated belly and flies crawling on you" card.

    he wasn't whining. He was asking a simple question, and people got all hot and bothered about it. it's never appropriate to pull that card. it's ridiculous and basically has no merit. it's nothing more than an adult version of "yeah, well my dad could beat up your dad!".
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  • force-10
    force-10 Posts: 794
    I´m sure they never offered downloads with TC backspacer. To prevent people from complaining, they even told us that the album was below 40 minutes total. Before the preorder date.

    I remember something about a record store in England (?), that did include bonus features. Not sure if it was free downloads.
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  • on2legs
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    he wasn't whining. He was asking a simple question, and people got all hot and bothered about it. it's never appropriate to pull that card. it's ridiculous and basically has no merit. it's nothing more than an adult version of "yeah, well my dad could beat up your dad!".

    I think the hot and bothered part came about because he put the word "LYING" in the title of the thread.

    Not because he asked a simple question, as you put it.

    BTW.. my dad would whoop your dad's ass!
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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Maybe lying is the wrong word. More like told us they were on the way then just A. ignored it and B. ignored every time someone on the board brings it up. Shades of Big, Bold, and Free. In terms of being a business, which they are, they really don't do a very good job in certain areas.
  • I've never seen backspacer for 9.99.
    I've seen it for 7.99
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  • on2legs
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    Maybe lying is the wrong word. More like told us they were on the way then just A. ignored it and B. ignored every time someone on the board brings it up. Shades of Big, Bold, and Free. In terms of being a business, which they are, they really don't do a very good job in certain areas.


    They never said it was "on its way". They said there MIGHT be some sort of freebie but they never elaborated on it and it never materialized.

    There was never a listing in the Goods section for a Backspacer CD with "Free Downloads".
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    I know there was a lot of talk about it when the album was realesed about special features with the 10club version. But I can be wrong, so someone prove me wrong :)
    ...
    I think that others have already proved you wrong. The 2 free bootlegs (the Target copy gave me diddly squat).
    And I can further testify by saying I got 2... and swapped them for a different 2 from a friend.
    I got 2 free downloads from a target backspacer
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  • drsluggo
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    on2legs wrote:
    I agree with you in theory except when the person is whining worse than a two year old about something so tiny and inconsequential then its appropriate to pull the "be happy you're not starving in Africa with a bloated belly and flies crawling on you" card.
    I'd agree with this except if you find this so meaningless why come into the thread and try to shred people for talking about it?

    The TC DID promise additional bonus items with backspacer. Whether it was before people were talking about the Target downloads or after, there were definitely promises made that so far have not been upheld.

    Whether or not people want to get upset about it - you can't deny that fact that bonus features were promised and have not been delivered.

    I'm not worrying about it, but obviously would have rather gotten some bonus things than not. Maybe even some demo versions of backspacer songs or something like that - big bold and free? :)
  • drsluggo
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    I've never seen backspacer for 9.99.
    I've seen it for 7.99
    Ditto - I think day after Thanksgiving it was crazy cheap @ Target and I think its been at $9.99 a few times since then on sale there as well.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    drsluggo wrote:
    The TC DID promise additional bonus items with backspacer. Whether it was before people were talking about the Target downloads or after, there were definitely promises made that so far have not been upheld.

    Whether or not people want to get upset about it - you can't deny that fact that bonus features were promised and have not been delivered.

    A bonus was NEVER promised. The 10 Club said they would look into it - there was no promises made.

    And there was never a CD in the Goods section that claimed to offer a free bonus with the purchase.

    Maybe next time people ask the 10 Club a question like this they should just say "fuck no" from the start and it would avoid all the bellyaching that usually follows.
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  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    edited April 2010
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    says the target and itunes ones had a free download, and to stay tuned to free crap from the 10c thing. same email explains the $2 per ticket for charity thing.
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  • drsluggo
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    on2legs wrote:
    A bonus was NEVER promised. The 10 Club said they would look into it - there was no promises made.

    And there was never a CD in the Goods section that claimed to offer a free bonus with the purchase..
    More than a few people posted this back in Sept:
    "I got an email from 10c saying they'd update the free bonus content throughout the year"

    It wasn't in the goods section, but it was all over the boards in September that the TC was saying there would be exclusive downloads through the year.

    I'm sure there are more links floating around to posts about it, but to say it was "NEVER" promised is just not true.
  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    on2legs wrote:
    A bonus was NEVER promised.


    Please kindly turn your attention to the post below yours sheep.

    Thanks
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