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prfctlefts wrote::eh: Maybe you need to go back and read the thread titile. it has everything to do with it. :roll:
bullshit. what part of your post has anything to do with OBAMA WAITING THREE DAYS TO SAY ANYTHING??????????? obama's waiting to talk was the POINT OF THIS THREAD, was it not? none of that crap you posted was relevent to the thread title. you just wanted to start a thread to bitch about obama, or project your fear onto the rest of us because your life stops whenever there is a hint that we might be attacked...i hear glenn beck will tell you what to do, so call his red phone and ask him..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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On that day, the last person I wanted to hear from was Obama. I wanted facts and he had none and that point. He knew less than me.Save room for dessert!0
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:prfctlefts wrote::eh: Maybe you need to go back and read the thread titile. it has everything to do with it. :roll:
bullshit. what part of your post has anything to do with OBAMA WAITING THREE DAYS TO SAY ANYTHING??????????? obama's waiting to talk was the POINT OF THIS THREAD, was it not? none of that crap you posted was relevent to the thread title. you just wanted to start a thread to bitch about obama, or project your fear onto the rest of us because your life stops whenever there is a hint that we might be attacked...i hear glenn beck will tell you what to do, so call his red phone and ask him...
Obviously I mis-understood inmytree. So why don't you chill the fuck out. And NO!!!!!!! Obama Not saying anything was not the point of this thread. I just thought I would comment on it. is that O.K. Asshole????? I don't need to start a bitch thread about Obama. Everyone knows well at least some of us do that he's not a leader. You and the rest of the Obama drones can't except the fact that Obama is not capable of leading this country. My life doesn't stop either because of terrorism,but when we ALMOST have another attack take place you better believe that it's going to get my attention. I could care less what you think about it because it 's pretty fuckin obvious that you could care less or that it's no big deal because it was a failed attempt.
Oh...All your immature jokes about Glenn Beck and the Tea party movement are really starting to get old. Why don't you go post shit like that over at THP,Move On, or Media Matters. You would fit in real well with everyone over there0 -
prfctlefts wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:prfctlefts wrote::eh: Maybe you need to go back and read the thread titile. it has everything to do with it. :roll:
bullshit. what part of your post has anything to do with OBAMA WAITING THREE DAYS TO SAY ANYTHING??????????? obama's waiting to talk was the POINT OF THIS THREAD, was it not? none of that crap you posted was relevent to the thread title. you just wanted to start a thread to bitch about obama, or project your fear onto the rest of us because your life stops whenever there is a hint that we might be attacked...i hear glenn beck will tell you what to do, so call his red phone and ask him...
Obviously I mis-understood inmytree. So why don't you chill the fuck out. And NO!!!!!!! Obama Not saying anything was not the point of this thread. I just thought I would comment on it. is that O.K. Asshole????? I don't need to start a bitch thread about Obama. Everyone knows well at least some of us do that he's not a leader. You and the rest of the Obama drones can't except the fact that Obama is not capable of leading this country. My life doesn't stop either because of terrorism,but when we ALMOST have another attack take place you better believe that it's going to get my attention. I could care less what you think about it because it 's pretty fuckin obvious that you could care less or that it's no big deal because it was a failed attempt.
Oh...All your immature jokes about Glenn Beck and the Tea party movement are really starting to get old. Why don't you go post shit like that over at THP,Move On, or Media Matters. You would fit in real well with everyone over there
i just think it wouldn't have changed anything if Obama had said something right after it happened. what i think would've happened would be reporters would naturally have a million questions and he'd be dropping a lot of "we don't know at this moment" which would lead to all sorts of wild speculation and fear mongering which is very unnecessarydon't compete; coexist
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Pepe Silvia wrote:i just think it wouldn't have changed anything if Obama had said something right after it happened. what i think would've happened would be reporters would naturally have a million questions and he'd be dropping a lot of "we don't know at this moment" which would lead to all sorts of wild speculation and fear mongering which is very unnecessary
I totally agree with you in a sense that it would'nt have changed anything.The last thing we need are knee jerk reactions. I just think 3 days is a long time with out saying anything. I could understand like 24 hrs or 36 hrs, but 3 days?0 -
i think anything less than 3 days would have been a knee jerk reaction. why face the press if you do not have all of the facts, and if you do not have the facts, why say anything that could be misinterpreted in any possible fashion in the first place?prfctlefts wrote:Pepe Silvia wrote:i just think it wouldn't have changed anything if Obama had said something right after it happened. what i think would've happened would be reporters would naturally have a million questions and he'd be dropping a lot of "we don't know at this moment" which would lead to all sorts of wild speculation and fear mongering which is very unnecessary
I totally agree with you in a sense that it would'nt have changed anything.The last thing we need are knee jerk reactions. I just think 3 days is a long time with out saying anything. I could understand like 24 hrs or 36 hrs, but 3 days?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:inmytree wrote:prfctlefts wrote:I'd like to know why it took Obama's people 3 hrs to notify him and then it took him 3 days to even say anything about it. :wtf: Oh I forgot he was on vacation :roll: Those damn turrist,and I thought there was no war on terror as some on her would like to believe. :roll:
who cares if it took 3 hours to inform him or if it took 3 days to "say anything"...why is this even an issue...?
yeah why rush and speak publicly when not all information is known yet? you risk spreading the wrong info that way. its been 3 days and they still don't know the full story.
obama can't do anything right for some people. had he spoken earlier he would have probably said something that was not true, just like the people that said the guy had no passport when in fact he did.
by the way, war on terror, perfectlefts, YOU CAN NOT WIN A WAR AGAINST A TACTIC!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
that would be like me waging a war on willfull ignorance. it can't be won....
I agrre with most but I feel the biggest problem with the war on terror is that the government is trying to run it with too much political correctness. Let the military run the war and do their job.0 -
With every little bit of political correctness this administration keeps bringing in a lot more common sense logic is gone and that is what is going to get us all killed....The Political Correct Attitude of the liberals is very dangerous in my opinion. When it comes to airport security issues how are they supposed to protect us when all the liberal dems are afraid of profiling people and hurting someones feelings. Story after story of airports searching grandmothers and children while somebody with no luggage and a one way ticket paid with cash and on a watch lists gets on a plane with a panty load of explosives......good luck with the 70 virgins after blowing your pecker off. We have to bring common sense back into america. Say what you all want about Bush, but I felt alot safer, then I do now. Obama administration clearly does not know how to handle national security. Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit . But don't you think that even a muslim that wasn't trying to blow up a plane would want other muslims checked out to ensure that they were going to get a safe flight being that they fit the profile of people that hate us, dispise us, and want to kill us. Common sense and stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks of us.0
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i wonder if this type of bomb would explode and kill mall the people in the plane and some people out of it what u will all say,,i dont think that 3 minutes,3 hours , 3 days will be the problem"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
and there you have it......the politically correct mind of a liberal. Let me ask you this. If there was a report that a young white male with a tatoo on his face is trying to blow up planes, who do you think we should look out for? It's no different here, they fit the profile , so check them out...COMMON SENSE!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!0 -
It’s a shame that Bigotry is used for a variety of circumstances other than bigotry. Because it weakens the severity of being a real bigot.TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
Guess you haven't been paying attention but there are more than a few Muslim wanting to kill Americans.! I'm Baptist and if it were only Baptist blowing up planes I would want every last Baptist person search! What could be wrong with using Common Sense?“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
aerial wrote:
It’s a shame that Bigotry is used for a variety of circumstances other than bigotry. Because it weakens the severity of being a real bigot.TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
Guess you haven't been paying attention but there are more than a few Muslim wanting to kill Americans.! I'm Baptist and if it were only Baptist blowing up planes I would want every last Baptist person search! What could be wrong with using Common Sense?
your first 2 sentances make absolutely no sense here..how can bigotry be used for circumstances other than bigotry??? :?:
you "conservatives" really make me laugh. you are all about your freedom, yet you are willing to give it all up when it comes to security. it is quite alright to take the freedom away from others, yet you complain when you have to get searched at an airport. secirity should be standardized for everybody, regardless of ethnicity. next you will be calling for body cavity search for all people of color, yet white people get to walk straight onto the plane. i am not sure how anybody in their right mind could justify that or think that is in any way ok.
but back to my original point, one of the great "patriots" once said "those that are willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither""You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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did timothy mcveigh, nichols, or eric rudolph, or richard reid, or the columbine shooters, or the unabomber, etc fit your description/profile of a terrorist? there goes your theory right there...mb262200 wrote:With every little bit of political correctness this administration keeps bringing in a lot more common sense logic is gone and that is what is going to get us all killed....The Political Correct Attitude of the liberals is very dangerous in my opinion. When it comes to airport security issues how are they supposed to protect us when all the liberal dems are afraid of profiling people and hurting someones feelings. Story after story of airports searching grandmothers and children while somebody with no luggage and a one way ticket paid with cash and on a watch lists gets on a plane with a panty load of explosives......good luck with the 70 virgins after blowing your pecker off. We have to bring common sense back into america. Say what you all want about Bush, but I felt alot safer, then I do now. Obama administration clearly does not know how to handle national security. Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit . But don't you think that even a muslim that wasn't trying to blow up a plane would want other muslims checked out to ensure that they were going to get a safe flight being that they fit the profile of people that hate us, dispise us, and want to kill us. Common sense and stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks of us."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:
did timothy mcveigh, nichols, or eric rudolph, or richard reid, or the columbine shooters, or the unabomber, etc fit your description/profile of a terrorist? there goes your theory right there...mb262200 wrote:With every little bit of political correctness this administration keeps bringing in a lot more common sense logic is gone and that is what is going to get us all killed....The Political Correct Attitude of the liberals is very dangerous in my opinion. When it comes to airport security issues how are they supposed to protect us when all the liberal dems are afraid of profiling people and hurting someones feelings. Story after story of airports searching grandmothers and children while somebody with no luggage and a one way ticket paid with cash and on a watch lists gets on a plane with a panty load of explosives......good luck with the 70 virgins after blowing your pecker off. We have to bring common sense back into america. Say what you all want about Bush, but I felt alot safer, then I do now. Obama administration clearly does not know how to handle national security. Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit . But don't you think that even a muslim that wasn't trying to blow up a plane would want other muslims checked out to ensure that they were going to get a safe flight being that they fit the profile of people that hate us, dispise us, and want to kill us. Common sense and stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks of us.
So, are you saying that we should not search muslims more than other people that do not fit the profile, can that really possibly be what you are saying here. All the people you list is not the same. You are listing single people with single actions. Clearly Al Qaida is not the same.0 -
no i am not advocating searching muslins less or more than other people. my post explicitly states that security and scrutiny should be the same for everybody. plese re-read it. what you are suggesting by singling out muslims is racism pure and simple. not even close to all muslims want to attack us. whose profile and whose definition of terrorist or terrorist suspect would we use? saying simply muslims is no different than singling out all jews for extra scrutiny, or all catholics, or all atheists and agnostics. i'm willing to bet that while you are very busy dilligently watching and singling out muslims, a home grown american terrorist will sneak up on you and blow up your fucking plane. the point is anyone can be a terrorist. all of the people i listed were white and they were american terrorists. there is no difference between a terrorist network and a lone wolf like you are suggesting there is. any way you look at it, a successful attack from a network or a lone wolf all results in the same thing....death, destruction, and fear. the people i listed had the same result, yet on a smaller scale, than the hijackers on 9/11, and this nigerian was unsuccessful and is not on the same level as anyone that i listed.mb262200 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:
did timothy mcveigh, nichols, or eric rudolph, or richard reid, or the columbine shooters, or the unabomber, etc fit your description/profile of a terrorist? there goes your theory right there...mb262200 wrote:With every little bit of political correctness this administration keeps bringing in a lot more common sense logic is gone and that is what is going to get us all killed....The Political Correct Attitude of the liberals is very dangerous in my opinion. When it comes to airport security issues how are they supposed to protect us when all the liberal dems are afraid of profiling people and hurting someones feelings. Story after story of airports searching grandmothers and children while somebody with no luggage and a one way ticket paid with cash and on a watch lists gets on a plane with a panty load of explosives......good luck with the 70 virgins after blowing your pecker off. We have to bring common sense back into america. Say what you all want about Bush, but I felt alot safer, then I do now. Obama administration clearly does not know how to handle national security. Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit . But don't you think that even a muslim that wasn't trying to blow up a plane would want other muslims checked out to ensure that they were going to get a safe flight being that they fit the profile of people that hate us, dispise us, and want to kill us. Common sense and stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks of us.
So, are you saying that we should not search muslims more than other people that do not fit the profile, can that really possibly be what you are saying here. All the people you list is not the same. You are listing single people with single actions. Clearly Al Qaida is not the same."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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common sense tells me that targeting an entire group of people, based solely on their religion and ethnicity, is offensive, disgusting, and unconstitutional. all it does is create more fear, racial division, and hysteria, and gives you a false sense of security that the airlines are actually preventing terrorist attacks.mb262200 wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
and there you have it......the politically correct mind of a liberal. Let me ask you this. If there was a report that a young white male with a tatoo on his face is trying to blow up planes, who do you think we should look out for? It's no different here, they fit the profile , so check them out...COMMON SENSE!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!0 -
mb262200 wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
and there you have it......the politically correct mind of a liberal. Let me ask you this. If there was a report that a young white male with a tatoo on his face is trying to blow up planes, who do you think we should look out for? It's no different here, they fit the profile , so check them out...COMMON SENSE!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!
common sense tells me there are a tad more muslims than white males with a tattoo on their faces....don't compete; coexist
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aerial wrote:
It’s a shame that Bigotry is used for a variety of circumstances other than bigotry. Because it weakens the severity of being a real bigot.TriumphantAngel wrote:
it takes a depraved, bigoted mind, to demonize an entire religion and its people, for the inexcusable behavior of a few.mb262200 wrote:Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit .
Guess you haven't been paying attention but there are more than a few Muslim wanting to kill Americans.! I'm Baptist and if it were only Baptist blowing up planes I would want every last Baptist person search! What could be wrong with using Common Sense?
before 9/11 the majority of terrorism was NOT carried out by muslims....
so are you saying we should ask everyone's religion before letting them on a plane? have some card with their religion on it that must be shown? maybe we should force them to wear some patch or something so they''ll be easier to spot? maybe they should have a separate line and/airports, like in Israel? what does a muslim look like? and before someone prattles off some stereotype if someone who is muslim did get through with a bomb or something i doubt they will dress like that stereotype, so how are you gonna know?
the simple answer is you're not and so you won't be singling out 'muslims' you'll be singling out brown skinned folksPost edited by Pepe Silvia ondon't compete; coexist
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"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
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mb262200 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:
did timothy mcveigh, nichols, or eric rudolph, or richard reid, or the columbine shooters, or the unabomber, etc fit your description/profile of a terrorist? there goes your theory right there...mb262200 wrote:With every little bit of political correctness this administration keeps bringing in a lot more common sense logic is gone and that is what is going to get us all killed....The Political Correct Attitude of the liberals is very dangerous in my opinion. When it comes to airport security issues how are they supposed to protect us when all the liberal dems are afraid of profiling people and hurting someones feelings. Story after story of airports searching grandmothers and children while somebody with no luggage and a one way ticket paid with cash and on a watch lists gets on a plane with a panty load of explosives......good luck with the 70 virgins after blowing your pecker off. We have to bring common sense back into america. Say what you all want about Bush, but I felt alot safer, then I do now. Obama administration clearly does not know how to handle national security. Muslims are trying to kill us. Is it all muslims.....no. But they fit the profile, so line them up and check them out, if they don't like it, tough shit . But don't you think that even a muslim that wasn't trying to blow up a plane would want other muslims checked out to ensure that they were going to get a safe flight being that they fit the profile of people that hate us, dispise us, and want to kill us. Common sense and stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks of us.
So, are you saying that we should not search muslims more than other people that do not fit the profile, can that really possibly be what you are saying here. All the people you list is not the same. You are listing single people with single actions. Clearly Al Qaida is not the same.
how will you know who is muslim!?!?
i would really like to know your criteria and how you would spot a muslim out in a crowd?Post edited by Pepe Silvia ondon't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'0
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