New Wishlist Street Team Special Ops Order:PJ needs yer help

81 wrote:

Tuolumne Mama wrote:

It is my understanding that the Street Team is a part of the Wishlist Foundation that helps promote the band, as well as support their philanthropic efforts. Since there were many threads on here complaining about Target for a myriad of reasons. IMO who better than the fans to confirm or deny these allegations with documented proof. If you disagree, you have the choice to decline. Geez folks you whine about the distribution & get a chance to help but rather find problem with helping to fix your complaint!

IMO, who better than the fans? Target? A merchadising company? A secret shopper company? PJ's record label? IMO, selling records is a for profit venture and thus, if you need something fixed, somebody should eat the cost, and that somebody shouldn't be a fan that signed up to do charitable work.


your mileage may very

Guess you are not aware that these are new concepts for those that choose to do them. Really, if you are not a member, I am curious how does this concern you at all? If you are, then you can always choose to decline. CHOICE makes the difference, IMO. Whether or not people accept to do this is totally up to the people doing it and this impacts you in what way? I am sure attorneys have combed over the matter long before it ever reached the page - PJ has been around long enough to look before they leap from a business perspective. There are other fan clubs who do similar tasks and a ton of organizations that ask their members to do similar things and all fall under the same charitable status. BTW, nice of you to acknowledge all the good work Wishlist has done over the years to help many people from many different causes and all the hard work those people put into it - maybe yourself included. Oh my bad, you didn't. You chose to admonish it for what you allege is some form of green disease. At least that is my take on what you have written and it is your opinion. Of course, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, including me.

Wow...I find this a little astonishing that fellow fans are arguing about this. As a member of Wishlist, I don't have a problem stopping by a few Targets to check out what they have displayed, or not, and ask a couple of questions, then simply report back.

It was clear to me when I signed up that this was also a street team. I was impressed that it is a street team that also raises a lot of money for causes that are close to the band. I have been involved in several street teams, and this was a first, as band's street teams ALWAYS just promote the band. I was heavily involved in the Gin Blossoms' street team back in the day when it was formed and we did everything for the band. This would have been considered ridiculously easy.

This is the first time that Pearl Jam has "used" a street team. They released the record themselves and need one now.

When you think about it, and see the complaining by the fans about Target on the board, who better than 200 fans across the country could do this task, quickly?

I just don't get the complaining and arguing, though. It is a "by choice" task. The results could really benefit the band in the future, which will benefit the fan.

I know that I was really pissed on Sunday, when I went to 5 Targets that were on the list for the t-shirt, album and rock band. That is why I don't mind helping...maybe next album won't be so hard to purchase.

I love this band, and have for MANY years, just like all of ya'll do. May sound trite, but they have helped me, many times over, get through "life". I have kinda grown up with them and lyrically, they have always been at the same place I am. I don't mind supporting the band and giving back a little for their continued success.

Evergreen888 wrote:

Wow...I find this a little astonishing that fellow fans are arguing about this. As a member of Wishlist, I don't have a problem stopping by a few Targets to check out what they have displayed, or not, and ask a couple of questions, then simply report back.

It was clear to me when I signed up that this was also a street team. I was impressed that it is a street team that also raises a lot of money for causes that are close to the band. I have been involved in several street teams, and this was a first, as band's street teams ALWAYS just promote the band. I was heavily involved in the Gin Blossoms' street team back in the day when it was formed and we did everything for the band. This would have been considered ridiculously easy.

This is the first time that Pearl Jam has "used" a street team. They released the record themselves and need one now.

When you think about it, and see the complaining by the fans about Target on the board, who better than 200 fans across the country could do this task, quickly?

I just don't get the complaining and arguing, though. It is a "by choice" task. The results could really benefit the band in the future, which will benefit the fan.

I know that I was really pissed on Sunday, when I went to 5 Targets that were on the list for the t-shirt, album and rock band. That is why I don't mind helping...maybe next album won't be so hard to purchase.

I love this band, and have for MANY years, just like all of ya'll do. May sound trite, but they have helped me, many times over, get through "life". I have kinda grown up with them and lyrically, they have always been at the same place I am. I don't mind supporting the band and giving back a little for their continued success.

Beautifully said, Evergreen888!

They aren't forcing anyone to do this... and you'd think with such threads like "PJ should hire interns!!", fans would love to be involved in something like this to pay forward for all the things the band have done and stood for....that's what I really love about them, they are very conscious human beings.

I do other things for my community and other things...but I love the idea for my favorite band!

Thank you for speaking on behalf of those who really want to do something, even if it is a small contribution making a difference.

xo

As Ed sings in "Unknown Thought":

A distant time,... A distant space,... That’s where we’re living —..
A distant time,... A distant place,... So what you giving?,...
What you giving?

It all depends on what you are giving. Some of these folks give and give and choose to give back even further by fulfilling a request by the band's management to help.

To each his/her own. We all give in our own ways. Some by fund-raising and volunteering. Either way, the Street Team is a neat way to be part of a symbiotic relationship with something that means so much to people in so many facets. As for me, I try to do what I can. I cant do everything that's part of the Street Team, but there lies the beauty of it; it's what you choose to do or not do and what you make out of it.

hopethatuchoke wrote:

Evergreen888 wrote:

They released the record themselves

This is unrelated to the street team thing but I was wondering if this is really the case? It seems as though going through Target and independent record stores wouldn't be considered releasing it themselves would it? Recording it, packaging it and shipping it through your website exclusively would be releasing it themselves. They are being backed by a major retailer and I read an article with stone in the past few weeks where he made it very clear they were paid exceptionally well by Target for this release (and paid up front I believe?) Going back to the street team thing, it's not like they are some little band with no funds who can't afford a proper marketing push.

I think it is all well and good they have very passionate fans but going into stores and trying to push them into either moving cd's to an endcap or bringing out more from the back is not something fans should be asked or expected to do. If you want to, as is the case of the Wishlist Street team, so be it.

I take it that you have never been involved in a band's street team. before. This is not an unusual request from them at all.

Like I said before, the street team is organized and can get out today. Hiring someone to do it would take much more time. This is not something that ANY other street team would be asked to do.

Sorry, the quote from hopethatuchoke's reply didn't come up :oops:

Anyway, hopethatuchoke, it's all good, just a misunderstanding on my part and I apologize. I'm really looking forward to the preparties and shows in October and think we will all have a blast. Hope you can make the weekend preparties so we can meet in person. Thanks for clarifying.

kj1nyr wrote:

Evergreen888 wrote:

I know that I was really pissed on Sunday, when I went to 5 Targets that were on the list for the t-shirt, album and rock band. That is why I don't mind helping...maybe next album won't be so hard to purchase.

Were you pissed because you couldn't find the tee? Cause like you I went to the Target in Paradise Valley and once I could get them to pause playing video games in the electronics section the employees told me they never had it, that I had to go to one of the Super Targets.

Made me wonder if they really never had it or if the store employees had taken them all for themselves.

Yep, started there and they actually said they were not getting them and said go to the Desert Ridge store, who was not even on the list.

Went there anyway, and they were clueless too and they did not even have the cd or album out.

Ended up at the Peoria Target, and they had everything displayed...cds, album, shirts, rockband.

Jeanwah wrote:

I just got back from a Target that was not on the Intel list.

I talked to the manager/retail clerks and they kindly told me that their store was never on the list to receive the t-shirts, Rock Band, nor Vinyl (but they did have a very nice end cap display w/ huge banner). While I understand that only selected stores were receiving these items, I have to say that it would have been nice if the public (a.k.a. huge fan base) actually KNEW what stores would be and would not be carrying these items. This could have been taken care of last with with better P.R. from Target AND TC. I'm not criticizing, just pointing out how this could have been avoided in many cases.

did you get the email last week? There was a link to the stores that would have the extra stuff.