An exclusionary ticket policy?

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  • edvedderrocks
    edvedderrocks Posts: 1,001
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I mentioned Madonna in context of playing limited cities with multiple shows in the city...not her cost.

    I wasn't referring to your post - Just using her as an example of high tickets prices & how EV's aren't that bad.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    gettingright wrote:
    Coldplay: 74.50+14.55+3.00=92.05 for one ticket
    Radiohead: 53.00+11.15+6.00=70.15 for one ticket
    (no shipping charges included)

    if pj charged me $300/ticket, i would still consider it a bargin....
    if you don't live where pj tours, move if it is that important to you. they can't come to all our living rooms :)

    see this thread: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=293759

    honestly ... $75 a ticket is not gouging ... it's the cost of doing business - i'm gonna assume that the people who have worked for the guys all these years are being taken care of accordingly; there is money going to a local charity for each show; that they are all pretty active socially and give back tons of that money; how can you begrudge the band for still charging one of the cheapest tickets around for the stature of the band and the type of show they put on ...

    as for not playing other cities - i definitely feel for ya - they always come to my town ... and i definitely feel fortunate ... having said that - there hasn't been a full blown tour since 2006 ... they only played a handful of shows this mini-tour so, can't really complain if they didn't do a single show in the west coast (EV excluded) and have not been down under anywhere for an even longer time ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    edvedderrocks wrote:
    I wasn't referring to your post - Just using her as an example of high tickets prices & how EV's aren't that bad.


    If you want to be completely fair in comparing those prices though, you'll have to take a look at the cost of putting on the shows. I'm sure Madonna has quite the stage setup...dancers...many more trucks of equipment, etc...it's Ed on a stage with a guitar...so you can't compare them directly...

    But, I certainly see AND agree with your overal point.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    polaris wrote:

    as for not playing other cities - i definitely feel for ya - they always come to my town ... and i definitely feel fortunate ... having said that - there hasn't been a full blown tour since 2006 ... they only played a handful of shows this mini-tour so, can't really complain if they didn't do a single show in the west coast (EV excluded) and have not been down under anywhere for an even longer time ...


    Not sure I'd call 2006 a full blown tour either. But I'll have to go bakc and look at the dates...didn't feel "full blown"...at least compared to a pre-2006 normal PJ tour schedule.
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  • PJBuckeye
    PJBuckeye Posts: 1,102
    Bezdelnik wrote:
    Prices have basically doubled in the last eight years... and don't get me started on Eddie's solo tour.

    These are 3,000 seat theatres. What do expect? Go to your local JUCO and take ECON 101. There is this crazy concept called supply and demand.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    PJBuckeye wrote:
    These are 3,000 seat theatres. What do expect? Go to your local JUCO and take ECON 101. There is this crazy concept called supply and demand.


    That is true...but I think the poster was comparing past ticket prices/policies to current. Despite huge demand with still limited supply (in the PJ heyday) they still kept tix ridiculously low. They also preached about it and made it a big point.

    You don't hear that anymore...and it's a good thing, because they don't do that anymore.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    PEPPER wrote:
    My $0.02.....when did downloading music really take off...I think I can say safely around 8 - 10 years ago.....with this new outlet bands made less money on album sales...so in turn they make a living by touring...that is why concert tickets have been on the up

    You hit the nail on the head, but not just because of Napster. Pearl Jam itself does not sell enough albums anymore (due to its music). Instead of having 5 people in the band to take care of, they all seem to have wives or significant others and some have kids. I don't fault them for upping the prices to pay for their increased expenses as well as to just increase their bank account. For $75 a ticket, they aren't hurting ours too much either, because if $75 is too muck for a ticket buyer, than so is $45.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That is true...but I think the poster was comparing past ticket prices/policies to current. Despite huge demand with still limited supply (in the PJ heyday) they still kept tix ridiculously low. They also preached about it and made it a big point.

    You don't hear that anymore...and it's a good thing, because they don't do that anymore.

    Times have changed. It is a good thing. Ed's gotta fly back and forth from Hawaii somehow!
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    because if $75 is too muck for a ticket buyer, than so is $45.

    The rest of your post makes sense...this last part does not. That's a big difference to many people.
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  • PJBuckeye
    PJBuckeye Posts: 1,102
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That is true...but I think the poster was comparing past ticket prices/policies to current. Despite huge demand with still limited supply (in the PJ heyday) they still kept tix ridiculously low. They also preached about it and made it a big point.

    You don't hear that anymore...and it's a good thing, because they don't do that anymore.

    I don't think the PJ shows doubling in price is that shocking either. Think about how much there costs of doing a show have increased. You can't charge $25 a ticket at MSG. You will lose money.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That is true...but I think the poster was comparing past ticket prices/policies to current. Despite huge demand with still limited supply (in the PJ heyday) they still kept tix ridiculously low. They also preached about it and made it a big point.

    You don't hear that anymore...and it's a good thing, because they don't do that anymore.

    $75 is low ... it may not be ridiculously low but you won't be able to show me a comparable product that is cheaper ... if they are on the low end of other bands of their status - how can you say they aren't continuing to be fair?
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    gettingright wrote:
    Coldplay: 74.50+14.55+3.00=92.05 for one ticket
    Radiohead: 53.00+11.15+6.00=70.15 for one ticket
    (no shipping charges included)

    if pj charged me $300/ticket, i would still consider it a bargin....
    if you don't live where pj tours, move if it is that important to you. they can't come to all our living rooms :)

    see this thread: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=293759


    Coldplay tickets range from $49-97...

    should have pointed that out...not sure you can get a $49 ticket to see Pearl Jam.


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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    cincybearcat wrote:
    The rest of your post makes sense...this last part does not. That's a big difference to many people.

    Here is the thing. If you are living from paycheck to paycheck, and $30 is a lot of money to you, maybe you shouldn't be going to a Pearl Jam concert. All I'm saying. It sucks, but if $75 is a really bitch to come up with (and making you delirious from posting complaint threads), then I would think if tickets were $45 that you should still put that money to better use than a concert.

    I think I'm just tired of the whining about concert prices. In 2008 $75 is not a huge amount of money, especially compared with what other bands charge. People on here are living like it is 1993, but that was 15 years ago! It cost me $60 to park in NYC for two nights (just to park!). So $75 isn't a lot of money anymore, and if it is, then concerts may not be a priority. I'm sure that makes me an elitist.
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    REM played or is playing Mansfield. $25.

    Just saying....
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    polaris wrote:
    $75 is low ... it may not be ridiculously low but you won't be able to show me a comparable product that is cheaper ... if they are on the low end of other bands of their status - how can you say they aren't continuing to be fair?


    I did not say they weren't being fair...

    They set a high standard early...one of if not the cheapest show...they are not that anymore, they are averaged price now. That's all I'm saying.

    It use to be part of the PJ montra...Cheap prices and access for all!!!

    Now it's simply average prices. Not a big deal to me, but I understand some people's frustration with it.

    Here, I'll put it in Polaris friendly terms ;) ...they use to have the smallest carbon footprint, not they are just average. Not a big deal, but no longer somehting to admire about them.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    REM played or is playing Mansfield. $25.

    Just saying....

    seriously?? ... you got a link?
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I did not say they weren't being fair...

    They set a high standard early...one of if not the cheapest show...they are not that anymore, they are averaged price now. That's all I'm saying.

    It use to be part of the PJ montra...Cheap prices and access for all!!!

    Now it's simply average prices. Not a big deal to me, but I understand some people's frustration with it.

    Here, I'll put it in Polaris friendly terms ;) ...they use to have the smallest carbon footprint, not they are just average. Not a big deal, but no longer somehting to admire about them.

    who would you put in pearl jam's league for the sake of argument? ... what other bands? ... then let's compare ticket prices at msg ... simple test ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Here is the thing. If you are living from paycheck to paycheck, and $30 is a lot of money to you, maybe you shouldn't be going to a Pearl Jam concert. All I'm saying. It sucks, but if $75 is a really bitch to come up with (and making you delirious from posting complaint threads), then I would think if tickets were $45 that you should still put that money to better use than a concert.

    I think I'm just tired of the whining about concert prices. In 2008 $75 is not a huge amount of money, especially compared with what other bands charge. People on here are living like it is 1993, but that was 15 years ago! It cost me $60 to park in NYC for two nights (just to park!). So $75 isn't a lot of money anymore, and if it is, then concerts may not be a priority. I'm sure that makes me an elitist.

    I hear ya...but I still think someone that is working hard to pay the bills and scrapping to save $ certainly can spend some $ from time to time at a rock concert...otherwise, what's the point in living?

    Anyhow, don't get me wrong, I'm ok with the ticket prices, but it's not something anyone should be bragging about like they use to. I guess it's similar to fighting Ticketmaster and now using them...they had their day (low ticket prices) and now they're gone. Average prices it is!!!
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Stop stealing their fucking music, you fucking thieves. The price of tickets will go down.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,886
    polaris wrote:
    who would you put in pearl jam's league for the sake of argument? ... what other bands? ... then let's compare ticket prices at msg ... simple test ...


    This is a tough thing to do as I've always found it tough to put bands in league together. And I think you're missing my point...but how about...

    DMB
    RHCP
    STP
    REM

    Let's start with them, since they are all solid bands, have followings, but are not a recent radio hit band like Coldplay for example.

    AS far as comapring shows...Muse is the next best live band I've seen. Maybe could comapre White Stripes...you going to look it all up?
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