Hey look people, the tickets are expensive. Simple as that. Especially in todays world. Lets not insult others who find this expensive. I am sure everyone would be on better financial footing if they could be. I paid the 85 bucks for Mansfield and I will again, but I have no problem with people who have issues with the pricing. The points those people make are good points.
This is a band that championed low ticket prices. Their prices are now high compared to other acts. Thats a fact. They held these beliefs 15 years younger, with no families, and a giant record company behind them, whey they were at the height of their popularity. Things change.
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Hey look people, the tickets are expensive. Simple as that. Especially in todays world. Lets not insult others who find this expensive. I am sure everyone would be on better financial footing if they could be. I paid the 85 bucks for Mansfield and I will again, but I have no problem with people who have issues with the pricing. The points those people make are good points.
This is a band that championed low ticket prices. Their prices are now high compared to other acts. Thats a fact. They held these beliefs 15 years younger, with no families, and a giant record company behind them, whey they were at the height of their popularity. Things change.
All that's sacred, comes from youth
Dedication, naive and true
With no power, and fuckin' nothing to do
I still remember, why don't you...don't you...
yeah but the tickets being expensive aren't a complaint to direct at the band, it's a complaint against the entire state of the economy (or at least the live music business as a whole). In the face of that, the band is doing a great job at keeping them as low as possible. That's how much tickets cost now, and it's on the low end. No one is denying that concert tickets are expensive, but you can't blame the band for that. We're just pointing out that relatively speaking, pearl jam still does a good job keeping prices as low as they can and hasn't gone against what they "used" to stand for.
Add in the cost of running a Carbon Neutral Tour... trying to offset the pollution created by the trucks and busses, the use of electricity, etc... It is cheaper to go the pollution route, but better to at least try to do something about our living environment.
And all the people who complain about Fan Members with lower membership numbers... you KNOW they would be hitting as many shows as possible if they had number 42,958 instead of 429,580.
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Gas has way more than doubled since the early 90s. More like 4X.
To be honest I wasn't driving until 1997 but I tried to remember what my mom paid!
Plus in CA it does cost around $75 when its $4.50 a gallon. Sometimes it sucks to be a Californian. I guess we pay for the weather.
So honestly a PJ/Eddie ticket is still considered a bargain especially in CA.
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To be honest I wasn't driving until 1997 but I tried to remember what my mom paid!
Plus in CA it does cost around $75 when its $4.50 a gallon. Sometimes it sucks to be a Californian. I guess we pay for the weather.
So honestly a PJ/Eddie ticket is still considered a bargain especially in CA.
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Yeah... $75.00 to fill the tank of a Durango.
So, i budget in the increased cost and taper back on my luxury items... mostly, driving from Orange County to Hollywood to catch local gigs at small clubs. I still go.. but, have cut back a bit.
I will still go to concerts... another luxury item... but, with the hassles the scalpers are creating on the TicketMaster site.. it makes me less enthusiastic about trying for tickets.
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And I remember when when a Led Zeppelin ticket cost $8.50... and people complained. It's all relative when it comes to money. People who complain about ticket prices today as compared to 10 year ago really need to understand this one thing... it ain't ten years ago any more.
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I think it is too much because they also sell bootlegs of their shows and make a boatload of money that way where other bands do not do this. Just my 2 cents.
I agree with this and part of the reason why I've always been against stealing music.
bands make next to nothing on album sales. stealing music increases exposure and allows me to actually give the band money by seeing them play live and paying for merch. if you really wanted to give a band your money you'd buy a cd or lp at the show you went to.
you want a better reason? saturation of the market with shit flavor of the month music.
do a little research. for 500,000 copies sold a band will make on average $100,000
I don't think the prices of the Pearl Jam shows are too high, the tickets are still very reasonable. However, I just wanted to point out that last summer I saw Tool (which IS a fair comparison-better than Coldplay and Radiohead atleast) quite a few times. The tickets, including all the BS fee's, never cost me I never more than $65.00 a ticket... I am not trying to say Tool is better than Pearl Jam, or that they treat their fans better because they don't...but what I do want to say is that Pearl Jam is not keeping the cost as cheap as possible.
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I don't think the prices of the Pearl Jam shows are too high, the tickets are still very reasonable. However, I just wanted to point out that last summer I saw Tool (which IS a fair comparison-better than Coldplay and Radiohead atleast) quite a few times. The tickets, including all the BS fee's, never cost me I never more than $65.00 a ticket... I am not trying to say Tool is better than Pearl Jam, or that they treat their fans better because they don't...but what I do want to say is that Pearl Jam is not keeping the cost as cheap as possible.
gas was like a dollar cheaper last year and tool may not carbon neutralize their tour. weren't the pj shows in 2006 something like $60-$65 and everyone was complaining then...
why do you think tool is a better comparison? I think Pearl Jam is more on par with coldplay in terms of the type of venues, capacity, etc.
I saw Wilco this past March and it was $25 a ticket. I dunno, go figure.
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Wow, their prices are NOWHERE NEAR HIGH!!! Seriously, never move to Australia people! The whole "$75 a ticket" to see a band (in Australia) is about 8-10 years old. The last time I saw PJ (in Australia) was 2003 and it was $75 and that was so cheap to see a big international act down there, I still think it's a steal. I paid $67 to see U2 in 1993, $42 to see U2 in 1989, $35 to see PJ in 1995.
The costs of touring are huge, the band have families and probably don't want to be on the road for months on end, I don't blame them. I'm sorry, but people really need to be thankful how often they do tour and that the tix are still well priced. My friend has a spare ticket to Madonna in Toronto... it's $368... I passed. I tried to get tix to see Neil Young in Toronto last year, they went up to $200, I passed.
I don't begrudge PJ the prices they charge or the tours they embark on... growing up in Australia, you take what you can get and go years without seeing your favourite artist... you deal. Also, someone mentioned bootlegs as something else they make money on... seriously!? They put those up cause the fans LOVE the boots! Wow. I'm kinda shocked to see that as a bone of contention.
Pearl Jam hit the stage and play 2.5+ hours every time. Their setlists vary, you see rarities... they're truly the best live band around. I don't see anything here to complain about... all that for only $75 in 2008!? Sign me up!
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gas was like a dollar cheaper last year and tool may not carbon neutralize their tour. weren't the pj shows in 2006 something like $60-$65 and everyone was complaining then...
why do you think tool is a better comparison? I think Pearl Jam is more on par with coldplay in terms of the type of venues, capacity, etc.
The carbon neutral point is good, IDK whether not Tool's tour is or not... But Tool plays all the same size venues as PJ, maybe not as many shows but neither does coldplay, but the same size venues. Not to mention, they have been around almost as long as PJ, I believe PJ has 2 year on Tool. Tool also has the same type of crazy, cult-like fans. Coldplay is pop-rock, Pearl Jam and Tool aren't.
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I saw Wilco this past March and it was $25 a ticket. I dunno, go figure.
Wilco is a good band, for sure. But they don't have the following to charge more than that. I don't think Wilco would sell out consecutive nights at Madison Square Garden, for sure.
Here's how you can tell whether tickets are fairly priced in the marketplace: 1) Are the shows selling out? If people are snapping up all the tickets at these so-called inflated prices ... then they aren't inflated; 2) Are people actually willing to pay more? If so, the tickets are technically UNDERPRICED.
I pulled my tickets at MSG and was immediately offered $1000 cash for them. So I'd say I got a pretty good deal at $80 a pop.
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Exclusionary is limiting ticket sales to people with a US address in 10c's records, especially considering membership actually costs more for people who live outside of the US.
Don't fault those of us who travel from far and away- rich doesn't really come into it. Serious financial sacrifices are made so this can happen.
And hey, if you want cheap tickets, consider moving to Poland- loved how cheap the show was over there. The reason for that? Economies of scale.
I think when it comes down to it concert tickets are a luxery item, something many people would like to have but no one really needs to live. People complaining that concert tickets are overpriced is like complaining that that a Rolex is overpriced.
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I am assuming you didn't have a 30 gallon tank in 1994. Gas prices were barely over a dollar a gallon then.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html
Gas has way more than doubled since the early 90s. More like 4X.
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This is a band that championed low ticket prices. Their prices are now high compared to other acts. Thats a fact. They held these beliefs 15 years younger, with no families, and a giant record company behind them, whey they were at the height of their popularity. Things change.
All that's sacred, comes from youth
Dedication, naive and true
With no power, and fuckin' nothing to do
I still remember, why don't you...don't you...
yeah but the tickets being expensive aren't a complaint to direct at the band, it's a complaint against the entire state of the economy (or at least the live music business as a whole). In the face of that, the band is doing a great job at keeping them as low as possible. That's how much tickets cost now, and it's on the low end. No one is denying that concert tickets are expensive, but you can't blame the band for that. We're just pointing out that relatively speaking, pearl jam still does a good job keeping prices as low as they can and hasn't gone against what they "used" to stand for.
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And all the people who complain about Fan Members with lower membership numbers... you KNOW they would be hitting as many shows as possible if they had number 42,958 instead of 429,580.
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To be honest I wasn't driving until 1997 but I tried to remember what my mom paid!
Plus in CA it does cost around $75 when its $4.50 a gallon. Sometimes it sucks to be a Californian. I guess we pay for the weather.
So honestly a PJ/Eddie ticket is still considered a bargain especially in CA.
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7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
Yeah... $75.00 to fill the tank of a Durango.
So, i budget in the increased cost and taper back on my luxury items... mostly, driving from Orange County to Hollywood to catch local gigs at small clubs. I still go.. but, have cut back a bit.
I will still go to concerts... another luxury item... but, with the hassles the scalpers are creating on the TicketMaster site.. it makes me less enthusiastic about trying for tickets.
...
And I remember when when a Led Zeppelin ticket cost $8.50... and people complained. It's all relative when it comes to money. People who complain about ticket prices today as compared to 10 year ago really need to understand this one thing... it ain't ten years ago any more.
Hail, Hail!!!
bands make next to nothing on album sales. stealing music increases exposure and allows me to actually give the band money by seeing them play live and paying for merch. if you really wanted to give a band your money you'd buy a cd or lp at the show you went to.
you want a better reason? saturation of the market with shit flavor of the month music.
do a little research. for 500,000 copies sold a band will make on average $100,000
2006: Camden I & II, Continental II (NJ)
2008: Camden I & II, DC, MSG I & II (NYC), & EV: NYC II
2009: Spectrum last 2 nights
2012: EV: Orlando I & II, Ft. Lauderdale I
2013: Brooklyn I & II
2016: Ft. Lauderdale & Miami
gas was like a dollar cheaper last year and tool may not carbon neutralize their tour. weren't the pj shows in 2006 something like $60-$65 and everyone was complaining then...
why do you think tool is a better comparison? I think Pearl Jam is more on par with coldplay in terms of the type of venues, capacity, etc.
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Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
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The costs of touring are huge, the band have families and probably don't want to be on the road for months on end, I don't blame them. I'm sorry, but people really need to be thankful how often they do tour and that the tix are still well priced. My friend has a spare ticket to Madonna in Toronto... it's $368... I passed. I tried to get tix to see Neil Young in Toronto last year, they went up to $200, I passed.
I don't begrudge PJ the prices they charge or the tours they embark on... growing up in Australia, you take what you can get and go years without seeing your favourite artist... you deal. Also, someone mentioned bootlegs as something else they make money on... seriously!? They put those up cause the fans LOVE the boots! Wow. I'm kinda shocked to see that as a bone of contention.
Pearl Jam hit the stage and play 2.5+ hours every time. Their setlists vary, you see rarities... they're truly the best live band around. I don't see anything here to complain about... all that for only $75 in 2008!? Sign me up!
The carbon neutral point is good, IDK whether not Tool's tour is or not... But Tool plays all the same size venues as PJ, maybe not as many shows but neither does coldplay, but the same size venues. Not to mention, they have been around almost as long as PJ, I believe PJ has 2 year on Tool. Tool also has the same type of crazy, cult-like fans. Coldplay is pop-rock, Pearl Jam and Tool aren't.
2006: Camden I & II, Continental II (NJ)
2008: Camden I & II, DC, MSG I & II (NYC), & EV: NYC II
2009: Spectrum last 2 nights
2012: EV: Orlando I & II, Ft. Lauderdale I
2013: Brooklyn I & II
2016: Ft. Lauderdale & Miami
Wilco is a good band, for sure. But they don't have the following to charge more than that. I don't think Wilco would sell out consecutive nights at Madison Square Garden, for sure.
Here's how you can tell whether tickets are fairly priced in the marketplace: 1) Are the shows selling out? If people are snapping up all the tickets at these so-called inflated prices ... then they aren't inflated; 2) Are people actually willing to pay more? If so, the tickets are technically UNDERPRICED.
I pulled my tickets at MSG and was immediately offered $1000 cash for them. So I'd say I got a pretty good deal at $80 a pop.
for the least they could possibly do
Don't fault those of us who travel from far and away- rich doesn't really come into it. Serious financial sacrifices are made so this can happen.
And hey, if you want cheap tickets, consider moving to Poland- loved how cheap the show was over there. The reason for that? Economies of scale.