Morons who bring people into their row/seats...

DriftingByTheStorm · July 2008

SENROCK! wrote:

WEAKSAUCE.

That's how Mike McCready has been all tour.
WEAKSAUCE.

South of Seattle · July 2008

NiteLite10 wrote:

Ok... I am not ashamed of anything I've done. I am 99% cool to everyone at shows. There are 1% that may or may not be ticked off by something I do anyway. ... I can't help that.

I don't think I'm doing some great act of kindness ... I think it just doesn't have to be that big a deal. I don't think there's this huge absolute rule of what you can and can't do. There are gray areas. Some people think it's rude to sit, some think it's rude to stand or jump. I'm sometimes annoyed by someone taking a billion pictures in front of me and blocking my view. Or holding a sign up... does that mean that they are morally wrong? How about people running in and out to get beer? talking to friends? passing out at their seats? None of these things are technically "against the rules" yet they certainly impose on others quite a bit more than a little seat sharing.

A few days ago in Mansfield my friend hugged me in the fifth row during Ted Leo and she shook my hand that was holding a beer. ... it spilled about 5 drops on the seat in front of me. The girl who's seat it was gave me a nasty look and proceeded to look pissed off for at least 5 minutes. (I apologized immediately) Technically, was I wrong to spill beer on her seat!... yes? Is it a big deal... no!

And it is like splitting a meatball sandwitch in half with a friend. It is absolutely possible to fit 2 people into one seat area at some venues. The only difference is an extra head or two... which is pretty marginal for the most part.

This is pretty much the same argument as smoking weed at shows. Some think it's terrible and rude (and "oh my god" illegal). Others think it's just part of the concert experience. For me... I don't smoke weed at shows... but I'm not bothered by it for the most part and think it is fine as long as people try to be cool to others around them.

I'll go ahead and agree with this. It's not a big deal if the situation allows for it. Although I'd maybe ask the people around me if they were cool with it.

I'll use this situation for example. Night 1 of the 06' Gorge, I'd never picked up my own 10c tickets before. So I leave the campsite and see the longest line I'd ever seen. I went to the front and saw it was a clusterfuck and started walked towards the end of the line, while walking my camping neighbors on both sides we in line and asked me if I'd like to stand with them. I asked the 4 groups of people behind me and they were cool with it, as I was only one person.

mensane · July 2008

the amusing thing about this thread is that people who defend the people bringing their friends into the row justify it by saying "what is it going to hurt to have ONE more person there." but what if EVERY person in the row brought just ONE extra person? would they fit comfortably? no. but as long as ONLY you are allowed to do it. entitlement...plain and simple.

if only one person is standing in front of a seat, the person behind you can usually see the stage by looking between the people in front of them. but when more than one person is crammed into the seat in front of you, your view is gone.

Heineken Helen · July 2008

coach pj wrote:

You do not have to be close to enjoy a show.

EXACTLY! Two of the best concerts I was at were Bruce Springsteen in the Millenium Stadium Cardiff and the who at oxegen. For both, I was miles back... but I was with the right company, in the right frame of mind, at the perfect level of tipsiness, and had loadsa room to dance/jump around. And it was just as good... different kinda good... as being front row.

Heineken Helen · July 2008

arhoops wrote:

Then they left for a little but came back for the encores.

To top it all off, they tried to pull a stunt that got me, and the other lovely PJ fans around me, pissed. When the lights went up my gf and I were talking about what an incredible night it had been... I then turned to my seat where I had placed my new PJ shopping bag and t-shirt to see they were missing. I looked down the aisle to see the two douche bags trying to get out quick before everyone... I chased them down the aisle and told them to give me my shit back... they tried to play it off like they didn't know it was mine, and said that they asked everyone and no one claimed it... bullshit!

Meanwhile I was happy to notice that most people in my area had taken an interest in this and were ready to help me out if need be.... it wasn't needed tho... they gave me my shit back, I once again told them to fuck off... and that was that...

Seriously... bullshit... only downer of that night.

:eek: Holy fuck, they tried to rob you :mad: PRICKS!

Heineken Helen · July 2008

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Yeah, I tried this in Boston II.
Had 5th row ticket (thanks FAITHFUL PJ FAN !)
and switched out when the 1st encore arrived,
so that my buddy's wife could check out the sweet seats for the encores.

On my way out of the row some real sweet young lady asked me, "are you coming back?"

When i replied, "No, i'm trading with a friend, so they can sit up front."

I swear the darling told me, "That's WEAK!"

I said, "Huh?"

and she said,

"That's WEAK!"

Now.
PJ fans being the lovely people they are,
i'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt,
assume that my hearing is shit,
and pretend like what she said was, "That's SWEET!"

:cool:

:eek: I don't get how it's weak

people are weird.

Heineken Helen · July 2008

Zanne wrote:

This happened to me at MSG1. I did not get an usher and have them run the row and check tickets, but honestly, it made for a bad experience that night. I asked the dude to move because I paid for my seat' to which he responded he could not get the "40" people to the left of him to move over and I should stand in front of my boyfriend because he is taller than me! First let me say that both mine and my boyfriends seats were paid for.. there were to be 8 people to the left of this asshat, not 40. If this ever happens to me again, I'll have an usher check tix down the line. I didn't want to because I didn't want to disturb the people there that actually paid for their seats, but I think all in all we were already disturbed by these jerks. Maybe if I would have reported it, it would have been a short distraction and then been better for the people who were assigned seats there. I don't like being taken advantage of and I don't like being disrespected. It won't happen again without issue. In all fairness, for all I know, he may have been one of the people with tix in my row, might have brought in others, might have just thought it was cool to make space for people to come in that didn't belong there.. but in any given scenario it was at my expense when he decided it was OK to stand in front of me in my own seat and refuse to yield when politely asked.

Peace

whatever about whether it's ok or not... if you're in someone elses seat and they ask you to move... you MUST move... end of story! If this happened to me, I'd have no problem HAVING them moved.

Come Back in Black · July 2008

See now I have not had this problem because my seats always suck... But should I win the lotery one day and I am getting edged out my personal space in any way I am going straight to securuty you selfish pricks. I know... I'm the bad guy. If everyone did that, this would not be as big of a problem as it is. Instead you have people telling stories of their night ruined and the ruiners are telling stories of how it was no big deal. I say fuck them.

keeponrockin · July 2008

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Yeah, I tried this in Boston II.
Had 5th row ticket (thanks FAITHFUL PJ FAN !)
and switched out when the 1st encore arrived,
so that my buddy's wife could check out the sweet seats for the encores.

On my way out of the row some real sweet young lady asked me, "are you coming back?"

When i replied, "No, i'm trading with a friend, so they can sit up front."

I swear the darling told me, "That's WEAK!"

I said, "Huh?"

and she said,

"That's WEAK!"

Now.
PJ fans being the lovely people they are,
i'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt,
assume that my hearing is shit,
and pretend like what she said was, "That's SWEET!"

:cool:

Whenever I'm front row for a show, for the encore I'll usually grab someone behind me that I've been chillin with all day and throw them on the rail and move back a bit! The look on their face is worth it every time.

polaris · July 2008

yeah ... wanna be generous? ... swap tickets ... cosmo has got it figured out ...

imagine if everyone wanted to be cool like all the seat stuffers?? ... but of course - you guys are cool and everyone else is a snob or an elitist ... rock and roll!

granted - i'm spoiled ... i'm normally within the first 5 rows of shows but have swapped and sat waaaaay back ... something to be said for being up close for sure ...

so, those who have shitty numbers or seats - be real nice to those who have good seats and for the new front row policy - speaking as someone with a relatively low number ... it's AWESOME ... maybe make it the first 2 rows even ...

ramblings6 · July 2008

i did the ticket swap thing during the encores at msg 2. i gave a guy i met the night before my 5th row, dead center seat and went and stood in his seat behind the stage. it was worth missing ace frehley up close just to see the dude freaking out for the rest of the night in my seat. but, even though i did something that i thought was totally legitimate, the people in the sixth row behind him still gave him shit about it (probably because he was much taller than me). i think they got over it when they saw how much fun he was having but ,in case they are on this thread.,.. i want to let them know that i didn't mean to make their night any less enjoyable, i just wanted to give someone the opportunity to see their favorite band up close. i wish there was a way to make everyone happy and have everyone be up front, but there just isn't. everyone should try their hardest to respect the people around them, if there is space (like an extra seat), ask the people around you if it's ok to bring a friend to the seat. everyone is trying to have a good time. we should all try to help eachother obtain that goal.

zolstice · July 2008

NiteLite10 wrote:

you don't have to be Mini-Me and encroaching is relative also --- you lost an inch or two? whatever. I would give up an inch or two for another fan. But of course not my whole seat.

There's always enough space up front for a few more... just not a whole lot more. I don't see why I'm a worse judge than anyone else of who should squeeze in there.

I'm not trying to say this is always cool. I have been bothered by a bunch of assholes trying to squeeze in also. Not everyone is that bad.

As far as morons... the world is full of morons,... and assholes. but of course seat sharers are among the worst of all...

What you failto realize is that if it's okay for you to squeeze a friend into your space, thenit is okay for everyone else in the row to squeeze a friend into their space, and all of the sudden you do have "a bunch of assholes" trying ti squeeze in.

deep_ocean_ · July 2008

pearljim wrote:

Boston 2:
What is up with the idiots that let 2,3, 4 or more people into their row with tix from other people? Must have had 6 people go by me to stand with their friends about 6 seats from me. If they had been next to me it would have been annoyng as hell.....Why don't the idiots with the seats just go up to lawn with all their buddies and not cram 8 people into 3 seats?

That is most annoying shit EVER!! :mad:

alc4jammer · July 2008

I'm 6'4, my girlfriend is 5'3, stood in front of me in my seat while my brother, 5'7, took the other seat. Got along great with everyone around us. I should give up my good seats to get three seats way behind us on the nonexistent chance that my 5'3 girlfriend standing directly in front of me might block anyone's view?

Morons who bring people into their row/seats...

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