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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    imalive wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    She 's got way more experience then Obama ever had. when it comes to politics.

    ...and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less intelligence. Sorry, but I'd prefer a smart person running the country (any smart person).

    please If you were to take away Obama's TelePrompTer you would see that he's just another talking head or maybe if you put your bong away and paid attention you might actually wake up. By the way why the hell would you incriminate your self with your avatar :roll:
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    So now she's going let a late night comedian influence her life please, if she wanted to protect her kids then leave them at home instead schlepping them out on the campaign trail. They needed to be in bed to go to school the next day.

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.

    Perfect Lefts you're correct you said it yourself Obama and Biden schlepped their children around also, however they didn't whine/bitch about the limelight/media coverage then QUIT their jobs while still on duty. Huge difference there.

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  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    weenie wrote:
    JR8805 wrote:

    I'm not convinced McCain would have won the election, but he would have given Obama a much better run his money. I had respected greatly McCain until he apparently made this decision almost like a roll of the dice. I think he looked at Obama and Clinton & knew that people wanted a change, and he felt, mistakenly, that he could infuse his campaign with a little fire by selecting a woman. Apparently, any woman--a woman who would ask his campaign to essentially lie about her husband's involvement in a secessionist group. To McCain's credit, that one was "no dice" with him. But, bad, bad move on his part in selecting her without a thorough vetting, although being a Democrat, I'm happy he made it.

    The country and the Republican party need a candidate the people of the country see as fundamentally honest and above-board. Eight years of Bush--eight years of lies and propaganda washes--have left people pretty tired of obvious dishonesty and insults to our intelligence. Fundamentally, I guess, this is what bothers me most about Palin...she talks about how she doesn't want to pursue politics as usual, but I'm not sure what she means. She's been caught out in one lie after another...is politics as usual to her politics where one is held accountable for what one says? Everything she does and says points to her wishing to return to the Bush years where lies and deception are seen as SOP--that goals picked by the elite are so good and so holy that the means to these goals is immaterial. I think Obama won this election when he said things like, "Well, let me tell you how I believe you demonstrate your respect. You do it by telling the truth and keeping your word, so folks can know that where you stand today is where you'll stand tomorrow." And then telling a hard truth, but saying by working together, we'd make our goals. He spoke to people as if they were intelligent adults and comes across as fundamentally honest, missteps and all. He speaks and acts as if he cares more about the country than he does himself. Sarah Palin does not. Her speech and her actions are very "me-centric"--she makes noises about the country, but they don't come across to me and millions like me as being genuine. She's leaving Alaska for the sake of Alaskans she says, but we all know she's leaving Alaska for Sarah Palin's ambition.

    I agree with what you have to say with one exception: I feel that Palin was pushed onto McCain as his running mate and that the "Republicans in charge" totally miscalculated America's ability to see through her.


    McCain was a "Republican?" Most Republican's didn't want to vote for him at all.
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    yogibare wrote:
    Sara Palin deserved the treatment she received, and if she wanted the media to leave her family alone, she should have left them at home. She used them as a political tool, and got what she asked for. Remember dragging her young daughter to that hockey game where she was booed? I would not subject my children to that, and if up to that point I didn't know any better, that would have taught me to leave them at home. And, by the way, I guess it was OK to say Barack and Michelle Obama were Muslim terrorists, performing secret "terrorist fist jabs". :!:

    Really ? why cos she was a republican. Nobody deserves the treatment her family got. Some of you you should really think about what your saying. What if it were your family ? How would you feel ? If you want to criticize her for her politics thats fine but to attack someone's family is just wrong especially someone with a child with downes sydrome.
    I can only Imagine what the media or some of you would've said if she had left him at home.She' not a good mother or she's embarrassed ect. Like I said I can only imagine. Sorry But some of this shit really makes me sick it needs to stop.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    g under p wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    So now she's going let a late night comedian influence her life please, if she wanted to protect her kids then leave them at home instead schlepping them out on the campaign trail. They needed to be in bed to go to school the next day.

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.

    Perfect Lefts you're correct you said it yourself Obama and Biden schlepped their children around also, however they didn't whine/bitch about the limelight/media coverage then QUIT their jobs while still on duty. Huge difference there.

    Peace

    They also weren't attacked day in and day out by the media like she was. And the thing is I woulnt vote for her as president I would rather see her in the house or senate.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited July 2009
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Really ? why cos she was a republican. Nobody deserves the treatment her family got. Some of you you should really think about what your saying. What if it were your family ? How would you feel ? If you want to criticize her for her politics thats fine but to attack someone's family is just wrong especially someone with a child with downes sydrome.
    I can only Imagine what the media or some of you would've said if she had left him at home.She' not a good mother or she's embarrassed ect. Like I said I can only imagine. Sorry But some of this shit really makes me sick it needs to stop.

    When you release yourself and your family to the press, you're open to that type of treatment, period. Think about the celebs that refuse to show their kids in public, or even themselves. The actors that have moved to escape the press. They've actually taken action to protect themselves and their family from potential bad press. Palin deliberately brought her family out into the public, and the public acted like it typically would. I'm not excusing it, just pointing out the irony.

    I have a child with Down syndrome. So does Palin. No, I'm not happy how she paraded her infant in front of the spotlight and threw herself to the Down syndrome community as "our savior" because she's in the same shoes. Pure garbage. At the same time, who really cares what I think about her public appearences? She went for the special needs vote, but anyone doing their homework would find that she denied extra funding for special needs for the state of Alaska. Enough for me to see right through the woman.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    You should really try to back up these accusations. IMO she's a washington outsider

    really - is it too hard to look yourself? I mean if you really think she's squeaky clean - don't you want to find out yourself?

    http://www.adn.com/politics/story/549095.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02711.html

    she's been investigated several times and if it wasn't for the fact she had the legislature on her side - she'd be done ... she already was found guilty of abuse of power and only through pushing it thru the legislature did they turn it back ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    he is most definitely incompetent, unqalified and corrup

    Please explain to me why you think she's corrupt and incompetent.

    well ... it's all over the news ... a simple search would show that she's been investigated several times for various abuses of power ...

    as for incompetence - just look at every interview she's done ... her ignorance on topics doesn't make her incompetent - what makes her incompetent is that when told by experienced advisers that she needs to bone up on foreign affairs and other key issues - she chose to ignore them and go on a nationally televised interview unprepared ... it can be said that mccains campaign derailed right after her interview with katie couric ... she also went on SNL where she was being made fun of on live tv and she didn't even know it ... at least she didn't go on Letterman ...

    So she's been investigated but she was found not guilty on 12 ethics violations . Ok I agree with you on foreign affairs she's weak no doubt, but that's still no reason to go after her family though.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.

    Perfect Lefts you're correct you said it yourself Obama and Biden schlepped their children around also, however they didn't whine/bitch about the limelight/media coverage then QUIT their jobs while still on duty. Huge difference there.

    Peace

    They also weren't attacked day in and day out by the media like she was. And the thing is I woulnt vote for her as president I would rather see her in the house or senate.[/quote]

    Look prfctlefts I like the now former governor of Alaska It's just I wouldn't want her to be in charge of this country or my state. Well even you can see that she has her weaknesses as a potential leader of this country since you say you wouldn't vote for her to become President.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    So now she's going let a late night comedian influence her life please, if she wanted to protect her kids then leave them at home instead schlepping them out on the campaign trail. They needed to be in bed to go to school the next day.

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.


    I've decided to come on here -just to make other's "aware" - that there is in fact a deffinite alternate way of thinking. (Although the majority on here "go with the "majority flow" - just like a monthly "period." It's a good "college-try" on your part. However - people beleive in what they believe. Just like me.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    ...and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less intelligence. Sorry, but I'd prefer a smart person running the country (any smart person).

    By the way why the hell would you incriminate your self with your avatar :roll:

    That's Michael Phelps dude. Yeah, the shining example of American athletic dominance.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    yogibare wrote:
    Sara Palin deserved the treatment she received, and if she wanted the media to leave her family alone, she should have left them at home. She used them as a political tool, and got what she asked for. Remember dragging her young daughter to that hockey game where she was booed? I would not subject my children to that, and if up to that point I didn't know any better, that would have taught me to leave them at home. And, by the way, I guess it was OK to say Barack and Michelle Obama were Muslim terrorists, performing secret "terrorist fist jabs". :!:

    Really ? why cos she was a republican. Nobody deserves the treatment her family got. Some of you you should really think about what your saying. What if it were your family ? How would you feel ? If you want to criticize her for her politics thats fine but to attack someone's family is just wrong especially someone with a child with downes sydrome.
    I can only Imagine what the media or some of you would've said if she had left him at home.She' not a good mother or she's embarrassed ect. Like I said I can only imagine. Sorry But some of this shit really makes me sick it needs to stop.

    I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here. During the campaign, Palin was torn to shreds due to her obviously unqualified to handle foreign policy. After the campaign, one late night talk show host made a crack about her pregnant daughter, who she paraded all over the country as an example of pro-life political values. She used her daughter as a talking point, she can't complain when other people make light of it. And PALIN was the one who went all over the country bragging about how noble she was for having a down syndrome baby... point me to ANY pundit or blogger or news source or comedian or talking head or politician or anything that EVER said anything negative about her baby. The only reaction was that many people felt that what was really sick and needed to stop was the way Palin used her own family as a political football to try to grab votes and blind the public to her obvious incompetence on important issues.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PearlJain wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    So now she's going let a late night comedian influence her life please, if she wanted to protect her kids then leave them at home instead schlepping them out on the campaign trail. They needed to be in bed to go to school the next day.

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.


    I've decided to come on here -just to make other's "aware" - that there is in fact a deffinite alternate way of thinking. (Although the majority on here "go with the "majority flow" - just like a monthly "period." It's a good "college-try" on your part. However - people beleive in what they believe. Just like me.

    I REALLY wish I could find a link to that Chris Farley skit. You've got to stop with the quotes, it's killing me! :lol:

    YES!:

    http://video.aol.com/video-detail/satur ... 1115877386
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Woooooooooooweeeeeeeeeee! Soulsinging comes through
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    soulsinging wrote:
    PearlJain wrote:
    I've decided to come on here -just to make other's "aware" - that there is in fact a deffinite alternate way of thinking. (Although the majority on here "go with the "majority flow" - just like a monthly "period." It's a good "college-try" on your part. However - people beleive in what they believe. Just like me.

    I REALLY wish I could find a link to that Chris Farley skit. You've got to stop with the quotes, it's killing me! :lol:

    YES!:

    http://video.aol.com/video-detail/satur ... 1115877386


    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    PearlJain wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    So now she's going let a late night comedian influence her life please, if she wanted to protect her kids then leave them at home instead schlepping them out on the campaign trail. They needed to be in bed to go to school the next day.

    It wasn't just Letterman, it was the entire left wing media.If you cant see that for what it is then I don't know what to tell you. and I guess Obama and Biden was schlepping their daughters to then since they did the same thing as the Palins did.


    I've decided to come on here -just to make other's "aware" - that there is in fact a deffinite alternate way of thinking. (Although the majority on here "go with the "majority flow" - just like a monthly "period." It's a good "college-try" on your part. However - people beleive in what they believe. Just like me.

    its not that people go with the "majority flow". if you have been around here for any number of years most of the people in this thread have been posting the same opinions and political philosophies for years. we are not going with "the majority flow" like a "monthly period". it just took a few years for most of the country to convert from your "alternate way of thinking" to ours. voters felt the way you feel for 8 years, now they do not. they see through what the gop has given us for the last 8 years and have grown weary of the same infinite war solution and tax cuts ideas that are about as worn out as my cassette copy of vitalogy. the majority is tired of the folksy presentation and delivery of speakers that are like "golly gee" and say things like "nuc-U-ler". palin is the perfect example of the old way of thinking. she has no shot at winning, and all of the attention she has gotten, both positive and negative is deserved. she couldn't take the heat so she got out of the kitchen. she is going to get owned by members of both parties if she runs for national office.
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    soulsinging wrote:
    point me to ANY pundit or blogger or news source or comedian or talking head or politician or anything that EVER said anything negative about her baby.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/palin-attacks-blogger-for_n_220668.html

    Ok SS this is just one. Spend a little time on the H.P or The Daily KOS or even Media Matters and you'll see what Im talking about. ;)
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    prfctlefts wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    point me to ANY pundit or blogger or news source or comedian or talking head or politician or anything that EVER said anything negative about her baby.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/palin-attacks-blogger-for_n_220668.html

    Ok SS this is just one. Spend a little time on the H.P or The Daily KOS or even Media Matters and you'll see what Im talking about. ;)

    That's the problem, you are talking about bloggers, not the "media" (sorry soulsinging :D )... Yes, the left wing blogisphere hit her with personal attacks, but the right wing blogisphere has also hit Obama, and especially Michelle Obama with a lot of over the line stuff...

    The mainstream media was/is tough on her, but I can't remember any network talking heads going after her family.
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  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    blackredyellow wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    point me to ANY pundit or blogger or news source or comedian or talking head or politician or anything that EVER said anything negative about her baby.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/palin-attacks-blogger-for_n_220668.html

    Ok SS this is just one. Spend a little time on the H.P or The Daily KOS or even Media Matters and you'll see what Im talking about. ;)

    That's the problem, you are talking about bloggers, not the "media" (sorry soulsinging :D )... Yes, the left wing blogisphere hit her with personal attacks, but the right wing blogisphere has also hit Obama, and especially Michelle Obama with a lot of over the line stuff...

    The mainstream media was/is tough on her, but I can't remember any network talking heads going after her family.

    Srah (Palin is still cool) Oh - it's complete Armegeddon now! Some of us who were not members of this websight when Pearl Jam was still in the crib - well then - we should just shut our mouths. Elitists - whom have been on this websight sight since Pearl Jam existed .......so what? YOU elistist do not own their music - and therefor not all opinions that you have remain final. Good for you that you have been on this websight since Jesus was in the manger. Not all of their fans were. We are STILL fans- regardless of when we actually signed up. (bunch of Elitists). Get over yourselves. Our money is just as good as yours - and we live a debt-free lifestyle. No credit here - because credit sucks (unless one is buying a house) - which we already did.
    Time will tell which politcal party will win win in future. I still don't support O'bama's policies. Can't see that ever happening.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    PearlJain wrote:

    Srah (Palin is still cool) Oh - it's complete Armegeddon now! Some of us who were not members of this websight when Pearl Jam was still in the crib - well then - we should just shut our mouths. Elitists - whom have been on this websight sight since Pearl Jam existed .......so what? YOU elistist do not own their music - and therefor not all opinions that you have remain final. Good for you that you have been on this websight since Jesus was in the manger. Not all of their fans were. We are STILL fans- regardless of when we actually signed up. (bunch of Elitists). Get over yourselves. Our money is just as good as yours - and we live a debt-free lifestyle. No credit here - because credit sucks (unless one is buying a house) - which we already did.
    Time will tell which politcal party will win win in future. I still don't support O'bama's policies. Can't see that ever happening.

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