Why do people get jealous?

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  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    chiquimonkey wrote:
    are they? how so? never thought of them as different, it's interesting to see distinctions

    well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. Even if it doesn't result in a positive improvement, it's still fairly harmless. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore. I guess envy would be more akin to resentfulness...maybe.

    does that make any sense?

    still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore.

    does that make any sense?

    still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.


    Makes good sense actually!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    I think she is talking to me....imagine that, a woman actually not liking my post or finding something wrong with my thread! Never had this happen on this board!! :):):)

    I guess I understand now!
    You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
    It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • Hawkshore
    Hawkshore Posts: 2,185
    Obi Once wrote:
    And I'm jealous of Americans.. here in the Netherlands we don't have Jimmy Dean's sausage on a stick..


    WTF? :confused: ............this just sounds wrong on so many levels :p
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  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore.

    does that make any sense?

    still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.

    kind of yes, i just never thought about it. it's a good perspective :)
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Hawkshore wrote:
    WTF? :confused: ............this just sounds wrong on so many levels :p
    lol...right????
    And where can i get that on a stick????
    jk


    You have fields full of tulips in the Netherlands. I would give anything...
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • GraySaturday
    GraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    I used to get jealous over somethings, years ago..

    In those years since, I have worked for people that some would say "Had it all".. and thats when you would think jealousy would really have reared its head, but it really opened to my eyes that just because someone has money, doesn't make their life rich. Just because someone has a million friends, doesn't make their life fulfilled. I've learned that no body lives a totally perfect life, and where one thing may seem perfect, there are a million other reasons why I wouldn't want their life. Some people believe the grass is greener on the other side, and it may seem to be.. But I don't know anyone with a perfect enchanted story book life, that I need to be jealous over. My life is what I make it. What is cool about human life is we have the control over how we feel each day. No one can make us feel anything, but ourselves. If you truly love yourself, your focus is on how to live each day to your fullest. There just isn't enough time in this life to spend it pining away to be something you're not.
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    TrixieCat wrote:
    You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
    It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol

    What are you talking about? Rock what boat? It's always the SAME people on here that make assumptions about me....it isn't worth a response actually...so have a nice night! :)
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    genie wrote:
    kind of yes, i just never thought about it. it's a good perspective :)

    well I just remembered it from years and years ago I was seeing a counselor and I said I felt bad because I was jealous of something and he was like "that's fine, but you're not envious are you?" and I didn't understand so he explained it to me. I never knew.
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    TrixieCat wrote:
    You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
    It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol

    Bad publicity is still better than no publicity right? I swear some people just post on here for their Sociology papers ..... and then I swear some people should just be brushing up on their freakin' English skills :p

    "Oh please validate me" LMAO
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    small town beck wrote:
    Bad publicity is still better than no publicity right? I swear some people just post on here for their Sociology papers ..... and then I swear some people should just be brushing up on their freakin' English skills :p

    "Oh please validate me" LMAO
    Don't get upset Becks...someone will love you one day. lol
    Validation through strangers is the key to happiness.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. Even if it doesn't result in a positive improvement, it's still fairly harmless. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore. I guess envy would be more akin to resentfulness...maybe.

    does that make any sense?

    still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.

    i do see what you're saying...it's an interesting distinction!

    i went and checked the definitions out of curiosity (and cuz i don't feel like working lol)

    ***

    envy

    1. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
    2. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.

    jealous

    1. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
    a. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
    b. Inclined to suspect rivalry.
    3. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
    4. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
    5. Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God.

    ***

    they both seem pretty bad, i guess that's the common denominator!
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    small town beck wrote:
    "Oh please validate me" LMAO
    i said that to a clerk the other day. bitch wouldn't let me save money for parking :mad:
  • KosmicJelli
    KosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    failedpersephone wrote:
    seriously, the concern is over length, which is irrelevant. it's all about girth.

    :D


    OMG ROFLMFAO
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:

    i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    chiquimonkey wrote:
    i said that to a clerk the other day. bitch wouldn't let me save money for parking :mad:
    Girl, I would start a thread.
    No justice! No peace!
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    What are you talking about? Rock what boat? It's always the SAME people on here that make assumptions about me....it isn't worth a response actually...so have a nice night! :)

    but those same people build assumptions on what you write, if you think someone is wrong about particular thing about you, then you should explain and let them know correct information

    btw i do hate when people start assuming on this board.
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    TrixieCat wrote:
    Don't get upset Becks...someone will love you one day. lol
    Validation through strangers is the key to happiness.

    Even someone as hideous as me??? :confused::p LMAO


    It is.. it really is.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    dunkman wrote:
    5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:

    i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
    No fighting love...just wondering why the need to grandstand.
    I am a beautiful woman...I know that. I also know that i am kind, intelligent and very, very funny. :p No fighting love.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • Hawkshore
    Hawkshore Posts: 2,185
    dunkman wrote:
    5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:

    i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.



    Here Here bring on the baby oil!!! :D
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