are they? how so? never thought of them as different, it's interesting to see distinctions
well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. Even if it doesn't result in a positive improvement, it's still fairly harmless. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore. I guess envy would be more akin to resentfulness...maybe.
does that make any sense?
still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore.
does that make any sense?
still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
Makes good sense actually!
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
I think she is talking to me....imagine that, a woman actually not liking my post or finding something wrong with my thread! Never had this happen on this board!!
I guess I understand now!
You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
And I'm jealous of Americans.. here in the Netherlands we don't have Jimmy Dean's sausage on a stick..
WTF? ............this just sounds wrong on so many levels
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well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore.
does that make any sense?
still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
kind of yes, i just never thought about it. it's a good perspective
I used to get jealous over somethings, years ago..
In those years since, I have worked for people that some would say "Had it all".. and thats when you would think jealousy would really have reared its head, but it really opened to my eyes that just because someone has money, doesn't make their life rich. Just because someone has a million friends, doesn't make their life fulfilled. I've learned that no body lives a totally perfect life, and where one thing may seem perfect, there are a million other reasons why I wouldn't want their life. Some people believe the grass is greener on the other side, and it may seem to be.. But I don't know anyone with a perfect enchanted story book life, that I need to be jealous over. My life is what I make it. What is cool about human life is we have the control over how we feel each day. No one can make us feel anything, but ourselves. If you truly love yourself, your focus is on how to live each day to your fullest. There just isn't enough time in this life to spend it pining away to be something you're not.
You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol
What are you talking about? Rock what boat? It's always the SAME people on here that make assumptions about me....it isn't worth a response actually...so have a nice night!
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
kind of yes, i just never thought about it. it's a good perspective
well I just remembered it from years and years ago I was seeing a counselor and I said I felt bad because I was jealous of something and he was like "that's fine, but you're not envious are you?" and I didn't understand so he explained it to me. I never knew.
You seem to discuss this quite a bit. If you are looking for people to get upset, then they will. Why rock the boat I would ask you? Who really cares in the grand scheme of things if some 'person' on here gets upset with you??? What good can come of that??
It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol
Bad publicity is still better than no publicity right? I swear some people just post on here for their Sociology papers ..... and then I swear some people should just be brushing up on their freakin' English skills
Bad publicity is still better than no publicity right? I swear some people just post on here for their Sociology papers ..... and then I swear some people should just be brushing up on their freakin' English skills
"Oh please validate me" LMAO
Don't get upset Becks...someone will love you one day. lol
Validation through strangers is the key to happiness.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. Even if it doesn't result in a positive improvement, it's still fairly harmless. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore. I guess envy would be more akin to resentfulness...maybe.
does that make any sense?
still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
i do see what you're saying...it's an interesting distinction!
i went and checked the definitions out of curiosity (and cuz i don't feel like working lol)
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envy
1. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
2. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.
jealous
1. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
a. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
b. Inclined to suspect rivalry.
3. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
4. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
5. Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God.
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they both seem pretty bad, i guess that's the common denominator!
5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:
i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
What are you talking about? Rock what boat? It's always the SAME people on here that make assumptions about me....it isn't worth a response actually...so have a nice night!
but those same people build assumptions on what you write, if you think someone is wrong about particular thing about you, then you should explain and let them know correct information
btw i do hate when people start assuming on this board.
5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:
i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
No fighting love...just wondering why the need to grandstand.
I am a beautiful woman...I know that. I also know that i am kind, intelligent and very, very funny. No fighting love.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
5 women bitching on a thread.. now there's a novelty :rolleyes:
i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
Here Here bring on the baby oil!!!
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well I just remembered it from years and years ago I was seeing a counselor and I said I felt bad because I was jealous of something and he was like "that's fine, but you're not envious are you?" and I didn't understand so he explained it to me. I never knew.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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well I don't completely get the distinction, but from what I understand, jealousy is just like a natural instinct, and it helps you improve yourself, while envy is a more personal slight. Like you ENVY a PERSON but you're JEALOUS of what that person has. hmm...trying to think of an example...like I guess if you are jealous that someone is getting good grades, it lets you know that good grades are something you want and it makes you study harder. Or even if you are like jealous of someone's car, you might save up to get yourself one. Even if it doesn't result in a positive improvement, it's still fairly harmless. But envy is like you look at someone and you kind of hate them for being who they are or having what they have rather than you being it or having it. Like maybe the evil queen was envious of snow white because snow white was now the fairest of them all and the evil queen wasn't anymore. I guess envy would be more akin to resentfulness...maybe.
does that make any sense?
still I think in common language people tend to use them interchangeably.
Makes good sense actually!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
It is not a competition. It is a message board. lol
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
WTF?
kind of yes, i just never thought about it. it's a good perspective
And where can i get that on a stick????
jk
You have fields full of tulips in the Netherlands. I would give anything...
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
In those years since, I have worked for people that some would say "Had it all".. and thats when you would think jealousy would really have reared its head, but it really opened to my eyes that just because someone has money, doesn't make their life rich. Just because someone has a million friends, doesn't make their life fulfilled. I've learned that no body lives a totally perfect life, and where one thing may seem perfect, there are a million other reasons why I wouldn't want their life. Some people believe the grass is greener on the other side, and it may seem to be.. But I don't know anyone with a perfect enchanted story book life, that I need to be jealous over. My life is what I make it. What is cool about human life is we have the control over how we feel each day. No one can make us feel anything, but ourselves. If you truly love yourself, your focus is on how to live each day to your fullest. There just isn't enough time in this life to spend it pining away to be something you're not.
What are you talking about? Rock what boat? It's always the SAME people on here that make assumptions about me....it isn't worth a response actually...so have a nice night!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
well I just remembered it from years and years ago I was seeing a counselor and I said I felt bad because I was jealous of something and he was like "that's fine, but you're not envious are you?" and I didn't understand so he explained it to me. I never knew.
Bad publicity is still better than no publicity right? I swear some people just post on here for their Sociology papers ..... and then I swear some people should just be brushing up on their freakin' English skills
"Oh please validate me" LMAO
Validation through strangers is the key to happiness.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
i do see what you're saying...it's an interesting distinction!
i went and checked the definitions out of curiosity (and cuz i don't feel like working lol)
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envy
1. A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
2. The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.
jealous
1. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
a. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
b. Inclined to suspect rivalry.
3. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
4. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
5. Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God.
***
they both seem pretty bad, i guess that's the common denominator!
i'm jealous of 5 women fighting... and still the baby oil hasn't come out.. this is turning into a shit night.
No justice! No peace!
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
but those same people build assumptions on what you write, if you think someone is wrong about particular thing about you, then you should explain and let them know correct information
btw i do hate when people start assuming on this board.
Even someone as hideous as me???
It is.. it really is.
I am a beautiful woman...I know that. I also know that i am kind, intelligent and very, very funny.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Here Here bring on the baby oil!!!
it's really good piece of info
haha was she jealous of you???
Back off.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
*insert EXTREME sarcasm* lol
you are very welcome to join us
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Well the toss up would be between you and I?? Who should people be more jealous of? Maybe we should start a poll?
Biotch, who are you calling a biotch?
LMAO.
Nice work.
anybody who would be jealous of me should share a bunk with ms. spears, that's all i fucking know lol
has-beens aint my thing anyway