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YieldInHiding · May 2007

long red wrote:

this problem has to be fixed....it is an embarrassment to the league and to those of us who waste our time watching this farce. regardless of who won...i'll give it to the Rangers, i hate em, but they've fought hard to get back into this series. BUT....we cannot have these games decided in this fashion. the nhl is about 10 years behind the times....get a CONCLUSIVE camera shot in the goal. There are ways of being sure a goal is either a goal or not a goal. Better camera shots for one....another way, a little crazier...would be to have something in the puck that automatically sets the red light off. put a computer chip in the puck that sets off a signal when it completely crosses the line.

seriously, year after year after year, the NHL makes itself looks stupid by blinding itself to any potential advancements. maybe people dont watch because of incidents like this and many others. it is REtarded.

I think people don't watch because they can't find the games on TV.

NY PJ1 · May 2007

it wasn't a goal ,,, just like game 3

were back,, i think i might have a heart attack though

its almost at the point where its not fun for me
i stand there like a nervous wreck,, i need heavy medication

BUT HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL HAIL KING HENRIK !!,,,please stay in the dam net

solid effort again,,cept for the last 10 minutes like jags said

also in the 2nd peiod for about 5-7 minutes they were flying
we cant run and gun with them ,,gotta get it deep and make them go 200 ft

and the icing;s at the end,, avery and tyutin ,,thats no good dudes
at least u were 9 of 13 on the faceoffs

LET'S GO RANGER'S!!!!!!!!

even flow? · May 2007

Well lookie here. A best of three series now.

So now that Buffalo is crying about the refs can everybody just shut the fuck up and play the game?

Posters note: This is not just for this series.

NY PJ1 · May 2007

what makes it even better is i def. get away from my girl on sunday for game 6 !!!

gotta take advantage of these free days

LET'S GO RANGER'S!!

orig_long red · May 2007

NY PJ1 wrote:

what makes it even better is i def. get away from my girl on sunday for game 6 !!!
gotta take advantage of these free days
LET'S GO RANGER'S!!

see you're happy now...but to be honest i'm alittle worried about you man...i think ur setting yourself up for a huge letdown. surround yourself with friends and stay away from that edge.

NY PJ1 · May 2007

long red wrote:

see you're happy now...but to be honest i'm alittle worried about you man...i think ur setting yourself up for a huge letdown. surround yourself with friends and stay away from that edge.

YEA RED,,ITS MORE OF A JOKE than anything
but it is nice to get away for a day and hang w/ the boyz

NY PJ1 · May 2007

xman i forgot my phone last night

i saw ur calls when i got home

xavier mcdaniel · May 2007

bring your phone for game six.. i have a postseason guide for you..

NY PJ1 · May 2007

ummmmmmmm

LET'S GO RANGER'S!!!

Bathgate66 · May 2007

Blueshirt Bulletin

May 02, 2007

Conclusive Evidence: Not a Goal

This just in: conclusive evidence that Daniel Briere did not score a goal in the closing seconds of last night's game. Take a look at the photo in the New York Post (link below under game reports). Make note of where Briere's stick is with the puck already on Henrik Lundqvist's pads. Then check the video and see where the puck is when Briere's stick is in that same position -- it hasn't yet crossed the line. The so-called grey area between when the puck goes out of sight and when Lundqvist gets his pad on it and kicks it out is now explained -- there is no grey area, Lundqvist gets the puck at that exact moment when it is still on the line. The Post photographer, acting like the second shooter in the grassy knoll, provides the missing link -- it was not a goal.

There is another sure way to know that it was not a goal, based not on visual evidence but on common sense -- only one person had a perfect view of what happened from close up: Briere. Look at the tape and watch how close he is, where he's looking, and the angle he has. If he saw the puck over the line, he would be howling about being robbed, not saying that the replay official might have made the right call.

As for comparisons between this call and the Rachunek goal -- apples and orangutans. The call on Rachunek was a judgement call by replay officials that inproperly applies the stringent criteria of "distinct" in assessing the kicking motion and "conclusive" in evaluating the evidence of a kick. There was no controversy on that call other than it being wrong -- everyone, including Briere, agrees that the call was wrong. On Briere's goal, there was no judgement made in the application of "conclusive" evidence -- everyone agrees that there was none, and that conjecture is not allowed. The only controversy is whether there were enough camera angles to make sure that all the evidence was available. Ironically, had MSG covered the game instead of the godawful Versus, those extra angles would have been available.

NY Post Report

the announcers last night were so dreadfully obviously rooting for the Sabres.
Fuck that-

anytime the Sabres had action, they were more lively and alot louder , as opposed to if it was the Rangers , they were just average .

That Benninnitti guy is horrible ( i wouldnt be suprised if he was the regular season play by play guy for the Sabres - but this i do not know for sure ) but it wouldnt be a shock if he was ..:rolleyes:

Let Sam on that Vs, or even Kenny Albert. :rolleyes:

Fuck - give us Mike " Doc " Emeric the rest of the way .

[size=+10] - _/ _/ _/ Lets Go Rangers \_ \_ \_ - [/size]

FnCircus · May 2007

Bathgate66 wrote:

Blueshirt Bulletin

May 02, 2007

Conclusive Evidence: Not a Goal

This just in: conclusive evidence that Daniel Briere did not score a goal in the closing seconds of last night's game. Take a look at the photo in the New York Post (link below under game reports). Make note of where Briere's stick is with the puck already on Henrik Lundqvist's pads. Then check the video and see where the puck is when Briere's stick is in that same position -- it hasn't yet crossed the line. The so-called grey area between when the puck goes out of sight and when Lundqvist gets his pad on it and kicks it out is now explained -- there is no grey area, Lundqvist gets the puck at that exact moment when it is still on the line. The Post photographer, acting like the second shooter in the grassy knoll, provides the missing link -- it was not a goal.

There is another sure way to know that it was not a goal, based not on visual evidence but on common sense -- only one person had a perfect view of what happened from close up: Briere. Look at the tape and watch how close he is, where he's looking, and the angle he has. If he saw the puck over the line, he would be howling about being robbed, not saying that the replay official might have made the right call.

As for comparisons between this call and the Rachunek goal -- apples and orangutans. The call on Rachunek was a judgement call by replay officials that inproperly applies the stringent criteria of "distinct" in assessing the kicking motion and "conclusive" in evaluating the evidence of a kick. There was no controversy on that call other than it being wrong -- everyone, including Briere, agrees that the call was wrong. On Briere's goal, there was no judgement made in the application of "conclusive" evidence -- everyone agrees that there was none, and that conjecture is not allowed. The only controversy is whether there were enough camera angles to make sure that all the evidence was available. Ironically, had MSG covered the game instead of the godawful Versus, those extra angles would have been available.

NY Post Report

the announcers last night were so dreadfully obviously rooting for the Sabres.
Fuck that-

anytime the Sabres had action, they were more lively and alot louder , as opposed to if it was the Rangers , they were just average .

That Benninnitti guy is horrible ( i wouldnt be suprised if he was the regular season play by play guy for the Sabres - but this i do not know for sure ) but it wouldnt be a shock if he was ..:rolleyes:

Let Sam on that Vs, or even Kenny Albert. :rolleyes:

Fuck - give us Mike " Doc " Emeric the rest of the way .

[size=+10] - _/ _/ _/ Lets Go Rangers \_ \_ \_ - [/size]

glad to see that they finally got a reporter on TOP of the net to take a true picture, not some angle picture.....

and as far as Briere not celebrating, its because he was face down on the ice after being hit....but at least he's being realistic and saying it was close. see, he doesn't think everyone is out to get him or hates him.

and the announcers were horrible, i agree, but they were sabres bias??? you have to be kidding me with that. you were watching the game on Versus, correct? they were so homer for the Rangers that Kenny should have been calling the game.

Bathgate66 · May 2007

F'n_Circus wrote:

glad to see that they finally got a reporter on TOP of the net to take a true picture, not some angle picture.....

and as far as Briere not celebrating, its because he was face down on the ice after being hit....but at least he's being realistic and saying it was close. see, he doesn't think everyone is out to get him or hates him.

and the announcers were horrible, i agree, but they were sabres bias??? you have to be kidding me with that. you were watching the game on Versus, correct? they were so homer for the Rangers that Kenny should have been calling the game.

i agree on much of what you say ,
except that the Benninnitti guy almost creamed his pants , ( in fact - i think he may have ) after the Sabes responded 30 something seconds after Shannys goal . ( unless that was the slushy MSG ice i heard on the TV and not his jism explosion .)

xavier mcdaniel · May 2007

unless he's changed jobs, bennati does capitals games..

Bathgate66 · May 2007

Hockey Rodent

It did not have to be so dramatic. But when Henrik Lundqvist wandered out behind his own net and then paused there.

It appeared as if Henke intended to play the puck, but at the very last moment received instructions from Karel Rachunek (23) to leave the pill.

Which is fine if you're going to get to it first(ly).

But Brian Campbell uses his speed to cut in front of Rachunek. The Sabre steals the puck.

Now one thing nobody mentions is that Campbell reaches out with his right paw to haul himself around Rachunek. Though that call is never made.

Here, you see Campbell's feed to Daniel Briere (48) while Henke continues to gawk.

The problem I have is why did Lundqvist stand there mesmerized for so long before he makes a move to return to his crease?

This is what Henke must answer to his teammates for.

If Henrik goes straight to his crease without delay there's no video review. Instead it becomes a race to see whether Briere can reverse direction faster than the Ranger netminder can.

Frankly, Sabre fans have a right to gripe on Wednesday. They lost this call because there weren't enough camera angles to overrule the on-ice wave-off.

While I cannot say for certain whether the puck did completely cross the red line - I saw enough of a traverse to tell you the Rangers caught a break.

- _/ _/ _/ Lets Go Rangers \_ \_ \_ -

FnCircus · May 2007

Bathgate66 wrote:

i agree on much of what you say ,
except that the Benninnitti guy almost creamed his pants , ( in fact - i think he may have ) after the Sabes responded 30 something seconds after Shannys goal . ( unless that was the slushy MSG ice i heard on the TV and not his jism explosion .)

yeah, I think it was overboard.

me......a simple screaming of "It's about fucking time" would have been fine

Bathgate66 · May 2007

Blueshirt Bulletin

May 03, 2007

Rangers Send Sabres a Wake-Up Call

Can a good team turn it on when it has to? The Rangers insisted for years that they were a good team who could do so, but when they tried, it was always too late (and never worked anyway). Now, after easing past the Islanders without playing their A game, and getting away with a pair of series opening wins against the Rangers despite not playing their best thanks mostly to the Rangers' own mistakes, and an assist from the refs in Game 1, the Sabres are starting to worry.

No longer dismissing the Rangers or puffing up their own chests, they are now talking about being in a war, knowing they would end up in a tight series, having to pick up their game for fear of losing, and being the team to make the reactive coaching moves in response to the more proactive Rangers. When the series resumes Friday in Buffalo, we will get to see if the Sabres are a good enough team to turn it on when they have to. They will have Maxim Afinogenov back on the ice after Lindy Ruff took the extraordinary step in Game 4 of benching his second leading scorer (in terms of points per game).

As much as the Sabres and most other observers want to put the video replay controversy behind them, with a two-day break before Game 5, there was little else for reporters to write about. So if you remain interested, see the Post, Times, MSG.com here and here, Buffalo News, USA Today, and ESPN.com, where Damien Cox suggests that the NHL has bigger problems to worry about than blown goal calls. Other Ranger-related news can be found in the Daily News, Journal News, Newsday, Star-Ledger, and CP. Other Sabre-related news, including much of the fodder used above, can be found in the Buffalo News here and here, NHL.com, and the Globe and Mail. Congrats to our friend Bruce Vance of the Prince Albert Raiders for winning the WHL's top award for team communication directors. Ryan Russell's twin brother Kris was named WHL MVP as well as top defenseman. Finally, a story about a Ranger fan who takes the jinx too far.

only 27 hours to go !

:eek:

- _/ _/ _/ Lets Go Rangers \_ \_ \_ -

Bathgate66 · May 2007

Outside The Garden
Game 4
Forward Lines
Hossa-Nylander-Jagr
Avery-Straka-Shanahan
Prucha-Cullen-Callahan
Isbister-Betts-Ortmeyer
Defensive Pairings
Rozsival-Malik
Tyutin-Girardi
Mara-Rachunek
Goaltending
Lundqvist
Valiquette
Scratches
Hollweg - Healthy
Orr - Healthy
Ozolinsh - Injured (IR)
Pöck - Healthy
Strudwick - Ineligible for playoffs
Weekes - Injured

It's never easy with the Rangers this season. With 17.1 seconds to go, Henrik Lundqvist and Karel Rachunek had a mix-up behind the net that gave Daniel Briere a chance to tie the game at 2-2. The play eventually went to Toronto for the review, but after approximately five minutes the call came down -- No Goal.
Lundqvist wasn't troubled for the remainder of the game and an important second win has given the series new life heading back to Buffalo tied at two. As has been the case throughout the series it was the veterans leading from the front. Jaromir Jagr and Brendan Shanahan scored goals on the power play, and 2006 Cup Winner Matt Cullen continues to skate and forecheck hard in the post season.

Shanahan's goal was proof positive to his value to the team in his twilight years, a veteran play in a pressure situation that he cashed in on and gave the Rangers the buffer that they ultimately needed.

King Henrik's adventures in the waning seconds aside, the Rangers were once again solid in their own zone denying the Sabres for the better part of the first 50 minutes of the game. Both teams used pressure to give the puck carrier little time, but it was ultimately the Rangers who generated more turnovers in all three zones. It wasn't until Shanahan scored to make it 2-0 that the Sabres finally got their game going. Kotalik scored thirty seconds after Shanahan's tally and the Sabres spent much of the remaining ten minutes playing in the Rangers zone.

It was a slow start for both teams as they spent much of the first twenty minutes playing a cautious game. Neither goalie was too troubled through the first period, but a late penalty drawn by Jaromir Jagr set the Rangers up for a quick start in the second. With the Rangers starting the second period on the man advantage Jaromir Jagr attempted to re-direct a Michael Nylander pass to the weak side, instead the puck caromed off of a Sabre blueliner and into the net.

Another thirty minutes later in the game and the Rangers were back on the power play when Matt Cullen found a wide open Brendan Shanahan just a couple of feet outside the goal crease and no defense nearby. The veteran scorer out waited Miller and gave the MSG faithful plenty to cheer about, slotting it by the Sabres netminder to make it 2-0.

The Sabres came right back with some offensive pressure and Kotalik got their only goal off of a change-up from the slot that only just beat Lundqvist.

In the post game comments Lindy Ruff gave the Rangers credit for being a good team, though he was understandably disappointed about the ruling on the late no-goal. Daniel Briere was more circumspect though he said that he felt that Rachunek's disallowed goal in Game 3 should've been a goal and that he hoped the league hadn't made a second straight critical mistake.

The Rangers' captain wasn't too happy about the final ten minutes of the game, saying that it "gave him a headache", and said the team needed to learn from their mistakes.

GAME NOTES:
Jaromir Jagr moved into 15th place all time with his 71st NHL playoff goal. Brendan Shanahan now leads all Rangers in the playoffs with his 5th goal of the post season. The Rangers scored two power play goals, and are now ranked third amongst playoff teams. They're also now ranked third on the PK.

The Rangers remain the only team left in the playoffs who are perfect on home ice. Buffalo had been the only team perfect on the road until Game 3 and has now lost two in a row on the ice. The Sabres found themselves losing a 2-0 series lead last year against the Flyers, and ended up winning the series 4-2 and are perhaps back in familiar territory.

TURNING POINT:
It wasn't until Bill McCreary waved "no goal" that the Rangers faithful let out a sigh of relief, but perhaps the turning point was the several saves that Lundqvist made immediately after the Sabres scored.

WHO STOOD OUT:
Lundqvist extended his home winning streak to nine straight games and his GAA actually went up despite stopping all but one shot. Jaromr Jagr's play continues to be a step above that in the regular season, Matt Cullen also continues to play hard and it seems only a matter of time before he scores a goal.

WHO DIDN'T:
Hard to single anyone out in this game, but perhaps the pairing of Malik and Rozsival was a little more susceptible to the Buffalo forecheck than some of the other blueliners. Sean Avery appeared to be forcing the puck a little too much and had a few too many turnovers

xavier mcdaniel · May 2007

besides being a great player, jaromir jagr is pretty funny, here's the latest installment of the jagr comedy hour:

courtesy of the journal news:

If there’s a reason you want this season to continue it’s for the ongoing stand-up routine by Jaromir Jagr. Today’s entry: A very optimistically dressed Steve Zipay asks the Rangers captain if he can name a horse in the Kentucky Derby. Jagr replies, “Barbaro.” Then we tell Jagr that Barbaro is actually dead. Jagr responds, “There’s only one horse. It’s me.” Later I asked Jagr about having to win a game in Buffalo to win the series. “And one here,” he said. “It’s easy. Even a caveman can do it.”

Bathgate66 · May 2007

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

besides being a great player, jaromir jagr is pretty funny, here's the latest installment of the jagr comedy hour:

courtesy of the journal news:

If there’s a reason you want this season to continue it’s for the ongoing stand-up routine by Jaromir Jagr. Today’s entry: A very optimistically dressed Steve Zipay asks the Rangers captain if he can name a horse in the Kentucky Derby. Jagr replies, “Barbaro.” Then we tell Jagr that Barbaro is actually dead. Jagr responds, “There’s only one horse. It’s me.” Later I asked Jagr about having to win a game in Buffalo to win the series. “And one here,” he said. “It’s easy. Even a caveman can do it.”

hahaha

So Easy

xavier mcdaniel · May 2007

Bathgate66 wrote:

hahaha

So Easy

haha, dynamite drop-in. anyone going to msg to watch game five, i'd go but i'm at the yankee game tommorow for work..

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