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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    How many other catchers have thrown punches? It's just not done. You know why it's not done? Because it's a bitch move to start a fight when you are wearing full body armor, and the other guy isn't. That's why.

    John Marzano for one started a fight with Paul O'Neill when he was sick of his yapping:

    http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/d22d4333bb_marz.jpg

    Mike Barrett

    http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0610/gallery.memorable.brawls3/images/017050019.jpg

    Here's two off the top of my head.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    How many other catchers have thrown punches? It's just not done. You know why it's not done? Because it's a bitch move to start a fight when you are wearing full body armor, and the other guy isn't. That's why.

    WHAT! If a catcher is pissed off enough he'll throw a punch for sure. What does it have todo with body armor?

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Solat13 wrote:
    John Marzano for one started a fight with Paul O'Neill when he was sick of his yapping:

    http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/d22d4333bb_marz.jpg

    Mike Barrett

    http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0610/gallery.memorable.brawls3/images/017050019.jpg

    Here's two off the top of my head.

    HA! nice. well played comeback.
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  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    someone wanna tell me why lester was suspended 5 games?
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    someone wanna tell me why lester was suspended 5 games?

    I was just about to ask the same thing ... HUH? He got almost as many games as Shields, who threw the first punch! WTF???
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I know he hit Carl Crawford later on in the game, so maybe they are assuming that this was retaliation?
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    yes. classic TEK.
    ha ha
    NO he did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters". that's just another one of those media hyped things between the yanks-sox that didn't actually occur. If you do a simple lexis nexis search, or google search you will find that 'Tek (ugh) actually admitted as much saying that "I'm not clever enough to come up with that". Which, judging by his 'roided up mug ;), seems pretty close to the truth.

    Anyway, I'm all for Yankees getting popped in the face, but at least make sure you are telling the truth when it comes to the story.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    g under p wrote:
    WHAT! If a catcher is pissed off enough he'll throw a punch for sure. What does it have todo with body armor?

    Peace


    seriously? you don't see an issiue with a guy covered head to toe in protective gear starting a fight? Again, it's the Boston Hypocrisy. If Posada threw a punch at a Red Sock in full gear, you'd be livid. But when your guy does it, he's a hero. That's just about the biggest bitch, pussy move in all of mankind. Why not just wait til the guy's running to first with his back turned to you, and then you can Pearl Harbor him? And hey, why not bring a bat along?

    2 examples over the last 12-15 years proves my point. the fact that one of them is dead shows that karma exists.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    ryan198 wrote:
    NO he did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters". that's just another one of those media hyped things between the yanks-sox that didn't actually occur. If you do a simple lexis nexis search, or google search you will find that 'Tek (ugh) actually admitted as much saying that "I'm not clever enough to come up with that". Which, judging by his 'roided up mug ;), seems pretty close to the truth.

    Anyway, I'm all for Yankees getting popped in the face, but at least make sure you are telling the truth when it comes to the story.


    Hey now, no facts allowed in this here discussion. No logic either. if somebody does something with the letters BOSTON across their chest, then they are in the right. If any other letters are across their chest they are dead wrong, even if they did the exact same thing
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    reborncareerist wrote:
    I was just about to ask the same thing ... HUH? He got almost as many games as Shields, who threw the first punch! WTF???

    I think Shields should have got no suspension. What's he supposed to do, just let Crisp storm the mound and pummel him until help arrives? It can't be for hitting Crisp---how do they know his intent? And if you get suspended every time you hit a batter, Pedro would have pitched once a month, kinda like he does now with the Mets
  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    seriously? you don't see an issiue with a guy covered head to toe in protective gear starting a fight? Again, it's the Boston Hypocrisy. If Posada threw a punch at a Red Sock in full gear, you'd be livid. But when your guy does it, he's a hero. That's just about the biggest bitch, pussy move in all of mankind. Why not just wait til the guy's running to first with his back turned to you, and then you can Pearl Harbor him? And hey, why not bring a bat along?

    2 examples over the last 12-15 years proves my point. the fact that one of them is dead shows that karma exists.
    go to the bottom of this forum to find the find the yankee thread and bitch about it there. AROD had it coming to him. what the hell do you want him to do. wait 10 seconds to take off his gear then fight? dumbass.
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    I think Shields should have got no suspension. What's he supposed to do, just let Crisp storm the mound and pummel him until help arrives? It can't be for hitting Crisp---how do they know his intent? And if you get suspended every time you hit a batter, Pedro would have pitched once a month, kinda like he does now with the Mets
    it was a fastball thrown right at him! how is that not intentional! typical new yorker. always have to be better :rolleyes:
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    go to the bottom of this forum to find the find the yankee thread and bitch about it there. AROD had it coming to him. what the hell do you want him to do. wait 10 seconds to take off his gear then fight? dumbass.

    namecalling---a sure sign that you know you've been proven wrong. And if you really wanna know, there are 2 ways to go about it for varitek to go about it the "right way"

    hit him next time he comes up
    go into him hard at 3rd if theres a play, or even at home plate

    that's how the game has been played for 100 years, I'm not making this stuff up
  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    namecalling---a sure sign that you know you've been proven wrong. And if you really wanna know, there are 2 ways to go about it for varitek to go about it the "right way"

    hit him next time he comes up
    go into him hard at 3rd if theres a play, or even at home plate

    that's how the game has been played for 100 years, I'm not making this stuff up
    if someone trash talks you right in your face you dont wait! you hit him right in the face! arod didnt even take a swing.
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    if someone trash talks you right in your face you dont wait! you hit him right in the face! arod didnt even take a swing.
    Wait...FACT ALERT...Arod did ask "do you wanna go?". 'tek did what any self-respecting white Bostonian would do, punch a minority in the face with a glove with chants of let's go southie in the background (okay so I made part of that up). Honestly the real fight that happened in that game was when Ortiz KIMBOED Sturtz from behind with a wild right-left. That was clearly a typical baseball fight, no one should be proud of themselves. It wasn't like a Nolan Ryan beatdown no matter how many dollar store books have the picture as a front cover.
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    it was a fastball thrown right at him! how is that not intentional! typical new yorker. always have to be better :rolleyes:
    Justice is clearly being served all the way around with the suspensions (with the possible exception of lester). I don't even see how this is a discussion.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    seriously? you don't see an issiue with a guy covered head to toe in protective gear starting a fight? Again, it's the Boston Hypocrisy. If Posada threw a punch at a Red Sock in full gear, you'd be livid. But when your guy does it, he's a hero. That's just about the biggest bitch, pussy move in all of mankind. Why not just wait til the guy's running to first with his back turned to you, and then you can Pearl Harbor him? And hey, why not bring a bat along?

    2 examples over the last 12-15 years proves my point. the fact that one of them is dead shows that karma exists.

    WTF, if Manny is stupid enough to spit at or call Posada's Mom a hoe or any Yankee except A-Rod :) (he's a pussy) then I would certainly expect Posada to pummel his ass. Plain and simple, it comes to the circumstances that instigates the situation.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    ryan198 wrote:
    NO he did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters". that's just another one of those media hyped things between the yanks-sox that didn't actually occur. If you do a simple lexis nexis search, or google search you will find that 'Tek (ugh) actually admitted as much saying that "I'm not clever enough to come up with that". Which, judging by his 'roided up mug ;), seems pretty close to the truth.

    Anyway, I'm all for Yankees getting popped in the face, but at least make sure you are telling the truth when it comes to the story.

    you are right.....

    he said "we dont hit guys with gay nicknames like a rod, who choke in pressure situations, and hit .260, so get to first bitch before I break your face"

    lester gets 5? wtf? told you, the rays suspensions will be harsher....if hes getting 5, they getting a lot more....this is their demise.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    ryan198 wrote:
    Honestly the real fight that happened in that game was when Ortiz KIMBOED Sturtz from behind with a wild right-left. That was clearly a typical baseball fight, no one should be proud of themselves. It wasn't like a Nolan Ryan beatdown no matter how many dollar store books have the picture as a front cover.

    Well, that part of the story depends on your view. The Red Sox reporter covering the story said Ortiz pulled Sturtze off Kapler as Sturtze was choking Kapler from behind and then Kapler and Nixon beat on Sturtze. The Yankees claimed that Ortiz threw a punch and missed Sturtze before pulling Sturtze off Kapler. Major League baseball agreed more with the Red Sox side and Ortiz was only fined $500 for his part in that fight. So I don't think he "Kimbo'd" anyone in that fight.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13

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