Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Locke is now an ass****. Maybe Jack had the right idea when he pulled the trigger in that past episode.
    Now?? He's been an asshole from day 1, just ask tall ghost Boone.
    I am also not sure whether Sawyer told Locke about Kate's plan in an effort to aid Kate or not. It wasn't clear was it? Especially, when he told Kate that he had helped Locke because he saw no reason for Locke to become mistrustful of both of them. I can't imagine Sawyer willingly being Locke's gopher.
    I got the impression that the plan was to have Sawyer fool Locke into going to the boathouse while Kate took vacuum cleaner salesman/ghostbuster Miles to see Benry, the plan didn't include Locke returning before Kate got out of there with the 3.2 million dollar man, I think thats what Sawyer meant when he said "sorry, there was nothing I could do", he couldn't stop Locke at the end or he'd have given away his role in the plot.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Poncier wrote:
    I got the impression that the plan was to have Sawyer fool Locke into going to the boathouse while Kate took vacuum cleaner salesman/ghostbuster Miles to see Benry, the plan didn't include Locke returning before Kate got out of there with the 3.2 million dollar man, I think thats what Sawyer meant when he said "sorry, there was nothing I could do", he couldn't stop Locke at the end or he'd have given away his role in the plot.

    Yeah, that makes since. But he shouldn't have told on Hurley.
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  • pjtaper
    pjtaper Posts: 3,020
    Aiight, I saw this, had to chime in.
    I have watched the first two seasons in the past few weeks, catching up. I can't wait to see the 4th season, I heard it is AMAZING!
    Finished season 2 last night, starting season 3 tonight!
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Poncier wrote:
    I got the impression that the plan was to have Sawyer fool Locke into going to the boathouse while Kate took vacuum cleaner salesman/ghostbuster Miles to see Benry, the plan didn't include Locke returning before Kate got out of there with the 3.2 million dollar man, I think thats what Sawyer meant when he said "sorry, there was nothing I could do", he couldn't stop Locke at the end or he'd have given away his role in the plot.

    sawyer said something to the effect of "i tried to make it look like you fooled me too" to kate in relation to her getting caught by locke.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Poncier wrote:
    Lostpedia never spent time as a short order cook, the eggs were over easy, not an omelet. ;)

    i just copy and paste. :)

    **edit** not anymore. links only if i even feel like it, which i really don't.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Miles might be asking for 3.2 million because that is the amount that Ben took in some way from the people who are after him. The photo that Miles had of Ben showed him in an office setting. He may have been working for the group or had infiltrated them and so was in a position to steal or imbezzle funds. Miles knows about it so knows how much to ask for. Also, Miles knew that the drug dealer kid had money. Maybe through his psychic powers he knows how much cash Ben has lying around.

    that could be the reason for the exact figure of 3.2mil. i just like how ben tossed it back at him "why not 3.3 or 3.4?"

    so miles has psychic money finding and/or individual wealth realization powers? i just thought that was a funny super power to have.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    apparently the episode started on christmas day on island time (day 95), which would mean the day after (day 96) would be the day of the tsunami that happened in the real world. wonder if it will show up on lost?
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    JSBE wrote:
    apparently the episode started on christmas day on island time (day 95), which would mean the day after (day 96) would be the day of the tsunami that happened in the real world. wonder if it will show up on lost?

    Well, it would depend if they're on the Indian Ocean where Flight 815 was "found" or if they're in the Pacific Ocean further away from where the tsunami hit.
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  • Riverrunner
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    This may sound silly, but I thought there would be a mention of Christmas in one of the shows.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Riverrunner wrote:
    As to where is Claire, there is the argument that she would have to be dead in order for Kate to have Aaron. However, there may have been some circumstance on the island that she knew she couldn't leave, but she didn't want Aaron to remain on the island for some reason so she sent him off with Kate to save him.

    desmond's final vision before charlie died was claire with aaron on a helicopter, which would lead me to believe that both get off the island.

    just because aaron is now with kate doesn't mean that claire is dead. i agree that once they were off the island and on the freighter or back in the real world something happened which lead to kate getting 'custody' of him.
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    In Season 1, the psychic in Australia said that Aaron should not be raised by anyone but Claire.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    JSBE wrote:
    desmond's final vision before charlie died was claire with aaron on a helicopter, which would lead me to believe that both get off the island.

    just because aaron is now with kate doesn't mean that claire is dead. i agree that once they were off the island and on the freighter or back in the real world something happened which lead to kate getting 'custody' of him.

    The thing is the ultimate end of Desmond's predictions came true - Charlie dying. But he had many different versions of this vision: Charlie drowning, falling down the rocks, getting shot with a crossbow.

    Maybe just the preliminary vision Desmond had was of Claire and Aaron in a helicopter and that's not the ultimate outcome.

    Also, I don't think we ever saw Desmond's vision. Maybe because Desmond knew Charlie was going to die eventually, he finally told Charlie about his vision of Claire and Aaron being rescued which is why Charlie agreed to do that mission because it was a suicide mission. Which would also explain, why right before Charlie dives in, that Desmond decides he wants to do the mission because he had lied about the Claire and Aaron part. We're taking what Desmond said as truth because his other visions came true, but we saw his other visions. I really don't think we ever saw the helicopter with Calire and Aaron. So maybe like many others on the island, Desmond lied to get closer to his goal of finding Penny.
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    The thing is the ultimate end of Desmond's predictions came true - Charlie dying. But he had many different versions of this vision: Charlie drowning, falling down the rocks, getting shot with a crossbow.

    Maybe just the preliminary vision Desmond had was of Claire and Aaron in a helicopter and that's not the ultimate outcome.

    Also, I don't think we ever saw Desmond's vision. Maybe because Desmond knew Charlie was going to die eventually, he finally told Charlie about his vision of Claire and Aaron being rescued which is why Charlie agreed to do that mission because it was a suicide mission. Which would also explain, why right before Charlie dives in, that Desmond decides he wants to do the mission because he had lied about the Claire and Aaron part. We're taking what Desmond said as truth because his other visions came true, but we saw his other visions. I really don't think we ever saw the helicopter with Calire and Aaron. So maybe like many others on the island, Desmond lied to get closer to his goal of finding Penny.

    Great thought!! We never did see the vision. Any way, all he said was that he saw them get on a helicopter and it took off, he never said they got rescued. Helicopter could have wrecked and Clair could have died and Aaron survived.

    There are 2 left of the Oceanic 6 so we'll find out if Clair gets off. Aaron doesn't count as a Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on the manifest. I think the last 2 will be Sun and Jin. Clair will die in Jacks arms, as he cannot save her and that is why he has issues with seeing his nephew, because he couldn't save his mom. My opinion.
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    There are 2 left of the Oceanic 6 so we'll find out if Clair gets off. Aaron doesn't count as a Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on the manifest. I think the last 2 will be Sun and Jin. Clair will die in Jacks arms, as he cannot save her and that is why he has issues with seeing his nephew, because he couldn't save his mom. My opinion.

    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.
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  • JSBE
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    rrivers wrote:
    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.

    we'll eventually find out in a couple weeks because the producers have said we'll know all of the oceanic 6 after episode #7.
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.
    Well, that is a good point. I guess I always thought they meant specifc passengers. We'll see soon..I love this show.
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    JSBE wrote:
    we'll eventually find out in a couple weeks because the producers have said we'll know all of the oceanic 6 after episode #7.

    And I'm pretty sure, as I think Solat stated, that in last week's preview they said another one of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed in last night's episode. The only person that can be is Aaron.
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    And I'm pretty sure, as I think Solat stated, that in last week's preview they said another one of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed in last night's episode. The only person that can be is Aaron.
    The preview said another "survivor" will be revealed. Didn't say an Oceanic 6 would be like it did for Sayid. BUT, it very well could be Aaron.
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  • JSBE
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    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179616,00.html

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    **edit** holy crap...i can't believe i didn't feel the need to post the whole story to clutter up the thread.
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    The preview said another "survivor" will be revealed. Didn't say an Oceanic 6 would be like it did for Sayid. BUT, it very well could be Aaron.

    My mistake.
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