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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    ucsbledbetter wrote:
    Fuck The Patriots!! Why Do The Officials Have To Decide Football Games!?! 4th And 5 And A Holding Call?!?!? Fuck!!!!

    that was a hold, plain and simple.

    the pats got REAL lucky tonight, but the ravens helped them out BIG TIME with terrible penalties and one stupid as time out call.

    i have a fucking throbbing headache from listening to those horrible, horrible, horrible announcers. please never let the pats be on monday night espn again.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    jimed14 wrote:
    well, I saw Sean Payton call a ridiculous reverse pitch yesterday while the saints should have been running out the clock.

    And Joe Gibbs calling back to back timeouts for a 15 yard penalty that probably cost his team the came.

    there are idiots abound.
    Well that is 1 bad play call for Payton, and Gibbs has earned his respect (granted, it was a complete bone-head move), but if you have been watching the Ravens the past 2 years, you would know what I mean...
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    g under p wrote:
    Did I call it or WHAT!

    The Ravens with Billick coaching FIND a way to fiiing lose. As Much as I love the Patriots the Ravens DEFENSE plays with HEART.

    DUMP BB

    Peace

    C'mon, if nothing else, this game shows that this team still has a heart. If BB were so vacant, that wouldn't be so.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    jimed14 wrote:
    Ravens could have won that game with one more first down on several different occasions ...

    the ravens had at least 2-3 different times where they could have (should have?) got a 1st down and more clock would have been eaten up.

    after a while it was pretty damn obvious that it was going to be mcgahee run after mcgahee run.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    JSBE wrote:
    that was a hold, plain and simple.

    the pats got REAL lucky tonight, but the ravens helped them out BIG TIME with terrible penalties and one stupid as time out call.

    i have a fucking throbbing headache from listening to those horrible, horrible, horrible announcers. please never let the pats be on monday night espn again.
    yea, it was probably a hold, but holding happens on every single play. I mean, how many chances can you give this damn team? You can't let a game be decided on an iffy call. And something just aint right when one team gets 13 penalties, and the other (who wins) 4...
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    ucsbledbetter wrote:
    Fuck The Patriots!! Why Do The Officials Have To Decide Football Games!?! 4th And 5 And A Holding Call?!?!? Fuck!!!!

    Come back next week and start your rooting for the Steelers. :)

    Peace
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    gue_barium wrote:
    C'mon, if nothing else, this game shows that this team still has a heart. If BB were so vacant, that wouldn't be so.

    and no brains. they completely screwed themselves with the double 15 yard penalty and the offsides. no penalties and maybe the ravens start off at the 35-40 yard line instead of the 20.

    this game was all mcgahee playing for sean taylor. let's see if mcgahee has that same fire next week...which i doubt.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    all4PearlJam wrote:
    yea, it was probably a hold, but holding happens on every single play. I mean, how many chances can you give this damn team? You can't let a game be decided on an iffy call. And something just aint right when one team gets 13 penalties, and the other (who wins) 4...

    defensive secondary holding does not occur on every single play.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    all4PearlJam wrote:
    yea, it was probably a hold, but holding happens on every single play. I mean, how many chances can you give this damn team? You can't let a game be decided on an iffy call. And something just aint right when one team gets 13 penalties, and the other (who wins) 4...

    and how many penalties did the pats get when they beat the colts AT indy?

    oh yeah...about a dozen plus for over 140 yards.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    g under p wrote:
    Come back next week and start your rooting for the Steelers. :)

    Peace

    that is going to be another rough one. at least it is at gilette and at 4:15pm est. these night games are killing me.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    JSBE wrote:
    and no brains. they completely screwed themselves with the double 15 yard penalty and the offsides. no penalties and maybe the ravens start off at the 35-40 yard line instead of the 20.

    this game was all mcgahee playing for sean taylor. let's see if mcgahee has that same fire next week...which i doubt.

    I don't agree.
    On the Ravens side of it it was a players game, for sure. Billick didn't interfere, so you have to give him credit for letting his players play. Mistakes and all, it was New England in the end deciding the outcome, and you know it.
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Glad the Pats won. Now the Steelers can end the streak next week!
    NERDS!
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Glad the Pats won. Now the Steelers can end the streak next week!

    Hope they can score more than a field goal.

    This should be a walk-over for the Pats.

    And it will be. They need to stretch out a bit, and breathe.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    gue_barium wrote:
    I don't agree.
    On the Ravens side of it it was a players game, for sure. Billick didn't interfere, so you have to give him credit for letting his players play. Mistakes and all, it was New England in the end deciding the outcome, and you know it.

    i agree that the pats won, but other than that, we'll agree to disagree. it was more of rex ryan's defensive play calling more than anything that billick had to do with the game...and rex ryan was the one that called the time-out right before the ravens stopped brady on 4th and 1.

    other than that, in my eyes, it was mcgahee run after mcgahee run after mcgahee run and for the first 2 1/2 quarters the pats really couldn't stop him.

    and after that, boller pulled an aj feely and got greedy and gave the ball away to james sanders - he should have just delivered it to him on a silver platter because there were about 4 pats to the one covered raven on that play.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    gue_barium wrote:
    Hope they can score more than a field goal.

    This should be a walk-over for the Pats.

    And it will be. They need to stretch out a bit, and breathe.

    :) I'll agree with that, I knew this game was going to be tough here in Baltimore but next week will be a much more simplified game against the Steelers.

    Need a better pass rush though.

    Peace
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  • PJ_Saluki
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  • ucsbledbetter
    ucsbledbetter Posts: 173
    ESPN just verified that a timeout cannot be called by a coordinator or other team personel. It has to be called by a player on the field or the head coach. The official granted the defensive coordinator a timeout on 4th and 1 when Baltimore stopped the Pats. So the Refs did fuck this one up!!!
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I have a question, probably stupid. How come the Ravens couln't decline the false start penalty? Was the whistle blown before the play started?
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    I have a question, probably stupid. How come the Ravens couln't decline the false start penalty? Was the whistle blown before the play started?

    False Start penalties on the offense technically occur before the play ever happens. Therefore no play was ever run so the defense has no choice but to accept it. The same with delay of game on the offense.
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