modern art = shit

dunkman
dunkman Posts: 19,646
edited May 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    agreed
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    dunkman wrote:

    AWWWWWWWWWWW C'MON!!! That bear was a riot!!!!!

    Kinda creepy too. Reminded me of The Shining.
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  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    LMAO!! I'm an art lover, but i'm kinda on the fence about modern art.... some of it i like, some if it makes you go "hmmmm"....

    shit, or not shit. in my mind, the whole idea behind art is to make you think, to cause you to feel something, to ask questions, to start discussions...

    so if you're standing there, looking at a plain laquered red slab of wood in a museum, and wondering "why the fuck is this art? this is shit... i'm so angry!" and then you tell your friend about how shitty you think it is, and you have a good laugh over it... well then, it's done it's job! :p:D

    here are a couple of personal 'favorites' of mine: ;)

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/59646

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/157156
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • yeah I remember viewing the modern art theses at my college every year and thinking "you needed 4 years at a top college to do this?"

    it was always like random bits of things glued together.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    I find myself appreciating alot of modern art purely in a comical sense. Like the Sex and the City episode with the art installation where Carrie was caught laughing while all these nerds stood around being all philisophical.
    Art is purely about evoking emotion. It isn't intellectual, never claimed to be.
    I get the biggest kicks out of the installations like a room that was set on fire or a ransacked fridge.
    Van Gogh has always been at the top of my list....the dude painted vases of flowers. :p
    It is not cerebral, it is emotional.

    And yes, that stuff stinks. :)
    I am more into modern photography manipulation, sculpture and the works of our own chiquimonkey. :)
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  • I believe your first link was Mark Rothko. And Mark Rothko = awesome, as are most of the Abstract Expressionists.

    And by the way, are we talking Modern Art? Or Conceptual Art? Because lots of Conceptual art is shit.
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  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    My son (8) at one of the lower floors at moma:

    "mom, why is a rusty bike hanging from the ceiling art?"
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    LMAO!! I'm an art lover, but i'm kinda on the fence about modern art.... some of it i like, some if it makes you go "hmmmm"....

    shit, or not shit. in my mind, the whole idea behind art is to make you think, to cause you to feel something, to ask questions, to start discussions...

    so if you're standing there, looking at a plain laquered red slab of wood in a museum, and wondering "why the fuck is this art? this is shit... i'm so angry!" and then you tell your friend about how shitty you think it is, and you have a good laugh over it... well then, it's done it's job! :p:D

    here are a couple of personal 'favorites' of mine: ;)

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/59646

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/157156

    using the red lacquered wood idea then... i stand and look at cycle lanes on the road that last 3 feet... i get angry thinking "why the fuck is that even there!! its shorter than my bike!!"
    its not art.... its crap.

    whats even shitter than the actual art is the total verbal puke they write about the 'art' in order to justify its greatness... take that 2nd of yours

    llsworth Kelly’s paintings emphasize the basics of color, form, and shape. .... just as he was beginning to explore the near-infinite possibilities of monochrome, the color spectrum, chance ordering, and multipanel composition.

    i.e. he had 4 tins of leftover paint, a 4foot bit of wood and 18 minutes to spare.

    i could make up modern art every day if i wanted to... so here we go

    man standing in a kids paddling pool wearing a suit entirely made out of burnt toast... this is man's effect on the planet... our carbon footprint and the lack of available water ... etc blah puke shit

    if i was in charge of a country i'd chuck out all of them idiots to Albania... see how how they make a fortune telling a poor country that a light bulb art piece signifies the "... idolisation of the electron and the blase attitude of our internal psyche to harness power.."

    its a fucking light bulb with the word 'idea' written on it with a magic marker
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    I believe your first link was Mark Rothko. And Mark Rothko = awesome, as are most of the Abstract Expressionists.

    And by the way, are we talking Modern Art? Or Conceptual Art? Because lots of Conceptual art is shit.

    yes, i think dunky is referring to something more along the lines of conceptual art....

    modern art is way to big a category to be hating ALL of it! :D
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    I believe your first link was Mark Rothko. And Mark Rothko = awesome, as are most of the Abstract Expressionists.

    And by the way, are we talking Modern Art? Or Conceptual Art? Because lots of Conceptual art is shit.


    it was indeed...
    http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1985.63.5.jpg

    but its total shit...

    we are talking about shit art... i.e. stuff we could all do if we could talk enough bollocks about it

    great art = stuff we couldnt do as we're not that talented
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    dunkman wrote:
    we are talking about shit art... i.e. stuff we could all do if we could talk enough bollocks about it

    great art = stuff we couldnt do as we're not that talented


    hahah!! i love it! that's a very good description... :)
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    TrixieCat wrote:
    Art is purely about evoking emotion. It isn't intellectual, never claimed to be.
    I get the biggest kicks out of the installations like a room that was set on fire or a ransacked fridge.

    you described a hungry arsonists house.... thats not art :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    LOL! i saw this one when it was at the Art Institute of Chicago:

    http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?criteria=O%3ADE%3AI%3A5%7CG%3AHO%3AE%3A1&page_number=79&template_id=1&sort_order=1

    read the description dunky... it should piss you right off! :)
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  • dunkman wrote:
    it was indeed...
    http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1985.63.5.jpg

    but its total shit...

    we are talking about shit art... i.e. stuff we could all do if we could talk enough bollocks about it

    great art = stuff we couldnt do as we're not that talented

    That link = Rothko = Modern art. And I fucking love Mark Rothko. :)

    Modern art = well, Modernist (early 1900s to around 1960s) and Conceptual art = Post-modernist (1960s onwards).. Most of the shit you'll see which is totally contemporary - Toilets encased in perspex boxes, bears standing in the middle of the room - is shit conceptual art where the *idea* is the art, not the execution of the idea itself. :)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • dunkman wrote:

    I liked 2 and 4

    Dunk, do you know what the concepts behind these pieces are?
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  • My sister and I were walking around the Art Institute in Chicago over a year ago and as we walked through the Contemporary Art gallery, we noticed Christmas lights on the floor. "Hmm, that's odd" and we assumed someone forgot to hang them up. Nope, it was "Art". Christmas lights laying on the floor. Oh, yes, there were also hundreds of colored pieces of hard candy on the floor, also "Art".

    I went home and took the lights off my Christmas tree, put them on the floor and called it "Art". In fact, I toss paper towels around my kitchen and where they land....it is "Art".
    :cool:


    Modern Art = Shit.
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  • Hitch-Hiker
    Hitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    LOL! i saw this one when it was at the Art Institute of Chicago:

    http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?criteria=O%3ADE%3AI%3A5%7CG%3AHO%3AE%3A1&page_number=79&template_id=1&sort_order=1

    read the description dunky... it should piss you right off! :)
    It's a fucking big black square!!! I could've spread a bin liner across my kitchen table and got the same result. For fusck's sake, these things are ridiculous. I'm with Dunk 100% on this one.
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