modern art = shit

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism

    That's where it really started.
  • Zanne
    Zanne Posts: 899
    civ_eng_girl wrote:
    LMAO!! I'm an art lover, but i'm kinda on the fence about modern art.... some of it i like, some if it makes you go "hmmmm"....

    shit, or not shit. in my mind, the whole idea behind art is to make you think, to cause you to feel something, to ask questions, to start discussions...

    so if you're standing there, looking at a plain laquered red slab of wood in a museum, and wondering "why the fuck is this art? this is shit... i'm so angry!" and then you tell your friend about how shitty you think it is, and you have a good laugh over it... well then, it's done it's job! :p:D

    here are a couple of personal 'favorites' of mine: ;)

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/59646

    http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/157156

    I'm not sure talking about the "shit" you saw inappropriately placed inside a climate controlled museum makes it any more art than the pile of pigeon shit I ogled while I sat outside of the museum smoking. If you are correct, and I am in the wrong, have I now not transformed the pigeon shit into art merely by talking about it?

    ;)

    Red fucking plank! WTF? Nevermind. You'll just never be able to convert me on this one.
    Just me
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    nobodies done that..

    modern art (that equals) shit

    then i gave examples.


    songs = shit

    Candle In The Wind

    am i now saying all pop songs written between 1970 and 1978 are shit.. no... that one song is.


    not one of you has posted a pic that otherwise disproves the theory thus far... ergo... shit.

    even being short-sighted i can make better art using a potato thats had a daisy carved into it

    'Modern art = shit' doesn't mean 'Modern art that is shit', it means Modern art *is* shit.

    If you'd posted 'Songs = shit' I would've said 'No they're not.' And then I would've corrected your grammar. :)

    Hey Dunk, was this a Conceptual thread? No-one knows what you meant by it. ;)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    TrixieCat wrote:
    Dunk, this is one of my favorite photographers. He does digital manipulation.
    I think he is awesome.
    His name is Jeffrey Scott.
    The opening page has one of my favorite pieces by him. It is SWF, some of his other stuff is not.

    http://www.factory1019art.com/

    I've also seen his work... very impressive :D
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    Zanne wrote:
    I'm not sure talking about the "shit" you saw inappropriately placed inside a climate controlled museum makes it any more art than the pile of pigeon shit I ogled while I sat outside of the museum smoking. If you are correct, and I am in the wrong, have I now not transformed the pigeon shit into art merely by talking about it?

    ;)

    Red fucking plank! WTF? Nevermind. You'll just never be able to convert me on this one.

    dude... that's deep!! you just blew my mind! ;):p:D
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    'Modern art = shit' doesn't mean 'Modern art that is shit', it means Modern art *is* shit.

    If you'd posted 'Songs = shit' I would've said 'No they're not.' And then I would've corrected your grammar. :)

    Hey Dunk, was this a Conceptual thread? No-one knows what you meant by it. ;)

    nicely done ;)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    decides2dream wrote:
    dunk to say modern art = shit to me reads as A:LL modern art = shit. for me, that equation is wrong, pure and simple.


    wait a minute.. didnt you just say this:-
    decides2dream wrote:
    and hey, opinions are like assholes eh? and we're all entitled to em. doesn't make one *right* though of course. we all can think what we want to think, but i personally think it's rather closed to say YOUR particular definition of 'what art IS' is the ONLY acceptable definition.


    there is no *right*... but modern art=shit being someones opinion is now wrong?? hmmmmm ...


    the examples of modern art that i gave ( and others) are shit... opinion it may be.. but my opinion is the right one ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    anybody here into that lowbrow, pop surrealism, rock art type stuff? that shit is a million times more interesting than that New York high art bullshit.
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Zanne wrote:
    I'm not sure talking about the "shit" you saw inappropriately placed inside a climate controlled museum makes it any more art than the pile of pigeon shit I ogled while I sat outside of the museum smoking. If you are correct, and I am in the wrong, have I now not transformed the pigeon shit into art merely by talking about it?

    Well, you could turn that into a found object sculpture. But what's the meaning behind it? :D
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    wait a minute.. didnt you just say this:-




    there is no *right*... but modern art=shit being someones opinion is now wrong?? hmmmmm ...


    the examples of modern art that i gave ( and others) are shit... opinion it may be.. but my opinion is the right one ;)

    Ah well, some of us become artists. Others of us become mapmakers. ;)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Anyone ever heard of Elizabeth McGrath?

    http://www.elizabethmcgrath.com
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    welll dunk if it's so damned east, lather your buttcheeks in paint and plop yourself on a canvas....;) show us your depth....:p :D:D
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    'Modern art = shit' doesn't mean 'Modern art that is shit', it means Modern art *is* shit.

    If you'd posted 'Songs = shit' I would've said 'No they're not.' And then I would've corrected your grammar. :)

    Hey Dunk, was this a Conceptual thread? No-one knows what you meant by it. ;)


    actually this thread is art ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    MrSmith wrote:
    anybody here into that lowbrow, pop surrealism, rock art type stuff? that shit is a million times more interesting than that New York high art bullshit.

    you mean like this stuff? http://www.amesbros.com/ ;):)
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Ah well, some of us become artists. Others of us become mapmakers. ;)

    like Amerigo Vespucci
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Zanne
    Zanne Posts: 899
    civ_eng_girl wrote:
    you mean like this stuff? http://www.amesbros.com/ ;):)


    HAHA! I think you've hit the nail on the head!
    Just me
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    some are unemployed quitters... its a tough world ;)

    Yeah, difference is, my post was quite clearly a joke.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    civ_eng_girl wrote:
    yes... but still all "modern artists".

    that's why Dunky's thread title is misleading....

    it should be more specific:

    "crappy-conceptual-pretentious-bollocks-that-i-could-create-myself-(but actually didn't) = shite (IMO)" ;):D
    Yes, that is what I thought he was talking about. I know Dunk well enough to know he wouldn't make such a broad statement. But you are right.
    He seems to be unimpressed with postmodern art, which can be understandable.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    A bunch of pretentious wank. If you like it then cool, but to me art will always be about pretty pictures of fileds and flowers. Not a man in a fucking bear suit.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    MrSmith wrote:
    anybody here into that lowbrow, pop surrealism, rock art type stuff? that shit is a million times more interesting than that New York high art bullshit.

    i'd rather look at a Rob Jones artwork any day of the week instead of some plastic box contain all the vowels except 'a' cos thats like a label man
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.

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