Guillermo Del Toro wipes the floor with M. Night Shyamalan

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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Yeah, you're right on all fronts I guess. I mean that is pretty gay. I don't know what lacks more class and taste. Listing my shows or considering Signs a Top 5 movie in anyone's eyes.

    Hey, I noticed we both like 'Summer School,' so there is hope for you yet ;)..
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,527
    smithnic wrote:
    It's violent as hell! I'm an American who grew up with "Faces of Death," so I don't mind it, but it's not necessary for the plot or the story.

    Yeah, I guess it's pretty violent at a few parts with the Colonel or whatever he is - but, I wouldn't say it's gory.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,527
    The Champ wrote:
    Hey, I noticed we both like 'Summer School,' so there is hope for you yet ;)..

    Yeah, I can tell you have a chance to be saved... Watch Jaws, City of God, Big Lebowski, Ghostbusters, & American Beauty and your Top 5 might change....Well, this is what usually makes up my top 5 at least....
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Yeah, I can tell you have a chance to be saved... Watch Jaws, City of God, Big Lebowski, Ghostbusters, & American Beauty and your Top 5 might change....Well, this is what usually makes up my top 5 at least....

    Not bad, my list fluctuates but usually consists of:
    Forrest Gump
    Gangs of New York
    A Beautiful Mind
    On The waterfront
    Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
    Good Will Hunting
    Signs
    Jaws is up there too
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Opps, sorry for the derailment..you guys can go back to bashing M. Night now ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Now don't get me wrong, I never really liked Shamalamadingdong. But I've now seen 'Pan's Labyrinth' and more recently 'The Orphanage' by Del Toro and let me say, he is everything Shyamalan wishes he was. Not far off a genius. I've always loved this kind of film but Del Toro does it perfectly.

    Discuss.

    I'm a fan of Shyamalan but he isn't even in the same league as Del Torro. That man is a genius.
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  • brainofPJ
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    The Champ wrote:
    Honestly, I would never hang out with a person who listed every single pearl jam concert he/she attended..and no Brad doesn't count..talk about bad taste ;)..


    good thing i didn't list EVERY pearl jam concert


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  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    As interesting as this thread is...with all of the bizarre personal attacks, hurt feelings, interthread intrigue...and M Night bashing and vindicating...I feel compelled to add something:

    The Orphanage, is a fine movie (El Orfanato) but it is not directed by Guillermo Del Toro. it was produced by him. but not directed. Direction for that film goes to an equally stunning Juan Antonio Bayona. He is a Spanish (not Mexican) film director.

    That being said, I would like to add that Guillermo Del Toro did a magnificent job with the story of Pan's Labyrinth. If you want to see a wonderful film by Guillermo please see "the Devil's Backbone" "El Espinazo del Diablo" which has a similar feel and setting to Pan's Labyrinth. I don't want to give any further "spoilers" so - please I urge you all to rent it.

    As to M. Night...I feel that he tries for gothic -but gets caught up in his own name recognition. "A film by M. Night" seems to be some sort of qualifier and excuse...and I think that regardless of popularity and sales, critically speaking his films have been lacking. Who knows if Guillermo will suffer a similar fate...perhaps the lackluster critical response for Hellboy & Hellboy II will temper the expectations. I look forward to The Hobbit.
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  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    The Champ wrote:
    Honestly, I would never hang out with a person who listed every single pearl jam concert he/she attended..and no Brad doesn't count..talk about bad taste ;)..
    AWWW son - what the HECK???

    BRAD is awesome!!!

    *Thread derailment*
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Shyamalan is a joke. Even the Sixth Sense is crap.

    Del Toro is a very good filmmaker.
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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    failedpersephone wrote:
    AWWW son - what the HECK???

    BRAD is awesome!!!

    *Thread derailment*

    I just thought I'd throw that in there ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Shyamalan is a joke. Even the Sixth Sense is crap.

    Del Toro is a very good filmmaker.

    Yay, here we go that's more like it..Let's get back on the wagon and bash the fucker some more ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    The Champ wrote:
    Yay, here we go that's more like it..Let's get back on the wagon and bash the fucker some more ;)..

    Isn't that the point of this particular thread? Shamalamadingdong made two watchable movies. To me, the rest are so heavy handed and obvious. But to each their own.
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  • The Champ
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    Isn't that the point of this particular thread? Shamalamadingdong made two watchable movies. To me, the rest are so heavy handed and obvious. But to each their own.

    That's what I'm saying..keep on bashing the fucker and his crap movies..and what do you mean obvious? Maybe it was intended to be as such..but this 'twist' scenario some people just can't get beyond..oh well, to each their own is right..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    The Champ wrote:
    That's what I'm saying..keep on bashing the fucker and his crap movies..and what do you mean obvious? Maybe it was intended to be as such..but this 'twist' scenario some people just can't get beyond..oh well, to each their own is right..
    It's not so much the twists that I hate, more the fact that you spend everyone of his films waiting for it because you KNOW it's coming somewhere.

    Cinema =/= a surprise party.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • TrixieCat
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    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    It's not so much the twists that I hate, more the fact that you spend everyone of his films waiting for it because you KNOW it's coming somewhere.

    Cinema =/= a surprise party.
    That is what I like about his movies...trying to figure out the twist.
    I love his work, tho I have not seen the latest.
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  • Restless Soul
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    I've never seen a shyamalan movie and I don't really want to, considering I hate horror.

    I loved Pan's Labyrinth - it's one of my all-time faves now - but I can't quite believe the same guy did Hellboy. Hellboy1 totally bored me to death!
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  • duggro
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    new hellboy sucks balls

    del toro is much more talented than shyamalan in my opinion, but i wouldnt go crediting him with 'the orphanage' as that was done by a dude named bayona (might have already been said in this thread, i just cant be arsed reading all the pages). del toro merely chucked a presenting director credit with his name on it into the mix so that the film got some coverage before release.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    failedpersephone wrote:
    As interesting as this thread is...with all of the bizarre personal attacks, hurt feelings, interthread intrigue...and M Night bashing and vindicating...I feel compelled to add something:

    The Orphanage, is a fine movie (El Orfanato) but it is not directed by Guillermo Del Toro. it was produced by him. but not directed. Direction for that film goes to an equally stunning Juan Antonio Bayona. He is a Spanish (not Mexican) film director.

    That being said, I would like to add that Guillermo Del Toro did a magnificent job with the story of Pan's Labyrinth. If you want to see a wonderful film by Guillermo please see "the Devil's Backbone" "El Espinazo del Diablo" which has a similar feel and setting to Pan's Labyrinth. I don't want to give any further "spoilers" so - please I urge you all to rent it.

    As to M. Night...I feel that he tries for gothic -but gets caught up in his own name recognition. "A film by M. Night" seems to be some sort of qualifier and excuse...and I think that regardless of popularity and sales, critically speaking his films have been lacking. Who knows if Guillermo will suffer a similar fate...perhaps the lackluster critical response for Hellboy & Hellboy II will temper the expectations. I look forward to The Hobbit.

    i agree, the devils backbone was a great film. :)

    shyamalan just bores me, though i did like the sixth sense.
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