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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Rygar wrote:
    That's my tunnel vision on the subject as well. I can't fathom that there's a place in which you can't get illegal item 'x' if you want it.

    I agree with you

    If someone wants something they will get it

    Like you said let's focus back on the families of this terrible story

    As far as solutions for something like this...I can't think of one other than everyone gets home schooled and shops on the internet (not being sarcastic)
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    That's my tunnel vision on the subject as well. I can't fathom that there's a place in which you can't get illegal item 'x' if you want it.


    this seems difficult for you to comprehend... i couldnt get a gun here in South West Scotland if my life depended on it... if a nutjob, probably an american, was holding my kids hostage and said you have 3 hours to find a gun... well i'd fail.. i absolutely would.

    that 3 hours could be 3 days...

    i could walk into the nearest big drug dealers house in the next 20mins... ask him for a gun and he'd just think i was a cop... drug dealers are cunts but i dont think even they'd sell a mentally unhinged guy a gun if he said it was to shoot 14 kids in a school.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    :o and that's what I find sad about this thread... cos there ARE places! And rygar, we don't really have differing viewpoints cos you've accepted that you don't live here. What we're discussing is how easy it is for a normal person to get a gun... you've said anyone could get one in Canada, I've said they couldn't here... we really have nothing to disagree on cos neither of us know much about eachothers country so therefore can't really debate which is right.

    You do have a point here.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    dunkman wrote:
    i was speaking geographically... i should have used North America.

    but then again most of you lot think Ireland is part of the UK and that England was the only country who fought in 2 world wars... so i dont think i need to apologise... :p

    Actually us board-visitin' Canadians know the difference :P
    Right Beck?
    ...right?
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    Yeah but my point is that you don't need to be a mastermind to know where, when and how to find a gun.
    My point is... maybe in Canada you don't need to be a mastermind... but here ya DO!

    *bangs head off brick wall AGAIN* :p
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    I agree with you

    If someone wants something they will get it

    Like you said let's focus back on the families of this terrible story
    well not until it's accepted that you may NOT actually know much about a country you've never visited and never lived in? I haven't made any 'factual comments' about your country which I haven't observed... so I don't get why your so quick to make some about mine.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    dunkman wrote:
    this seems difficult for you to comprehend... i couldnt get a gun here in South West Scotland if my life depended on it... if a nutjob, probably an american, was holding my kids hostage and said you have 3 hours to find a gun... well i'd fail.. i absolutely would.

    that 3 hours could be 3 days...

    i could walk into the nearest big drug dealers house in the next 20mins... ask him for a gun and he'd just think i was a cop... drug dealers are cunts but i dont think even they'd sell a mentally unhinged guy a gun if he said it was to shoot 14 kids in a school.

    Of course it is difficult for me to comprehend. People are fucked, and I generally associate that with people everywhere.
    Not all people, of course, but where people go, it is inevitable that shit goes with 'em.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    Actually us board-visitin' Canadians know the difference :P
    Right Beck?
    ...right?
    :D She didn't til I educated her :p

    And lol, it's quite funny how you find it hard to understand how people couldn't get their hands on a gun if they needed it... I find it hard to understand how people in certain countries CAN get one quite easily. I've accepted it though ;)
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    Of course it is difficult for me to comprehend. People are fucked, and I generally associate that with people everywhere.
    Not all people, of course, but where people go, it is inevitable that shit goes with 'em.
    People are still fucked here... we're probably no more insane or sane than any other country... but there are several different methods of killing... there's beating someone to death with your weights, choking somebody with a hoover, stabbing somebody, these are all cases I read about... people still get killed, they just don't get shot (unless it's gang related or an innocent caught up in a gang feud) and because of this there is a MUCH less chance of a mass killing to the extent that they go on in other countries (now that we've got our bomb fetish over and done with :mad: )
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    :D She didn't til I educated her :p

    And lol, it's quite funny how you find it hard to understand how people couldn't get their hands on a gun if they needed it... I find it hard to understand how people in certain countries CAN get one quite easily. I've accepted it though ;)

    I can make a concession (and accept it) that there you can't get a gun if you want it.
    I can get a gun if I wanted it, from many different places because I know where they are. Naturally I associate that with 'if I can do it, anyone can'.

    And shame on Beck.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    People are still fucked here... we're probably no more insane or sane than any other country... but there are several different methods of killing... there's beating someone to death with your weights, choking somebody with a hoover, stabbing somebody, these are all cases I read about... people still get killed, they just don't get shot (unless it's gang related or an innocent caught up in a gang feud) and because of this there is a MUCH less chance of a mass killing to the extent that they go on in other countries (now that we've got our bomb fetish over and done with :mad: )

    Well there's something our countries, the UK and Canada, do have in common. People get murdered by all sorts of clever methods and instruments.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    I can make a concession (and accept it) that there you can't get a gun if you want it.
    I can get a gun if I wanted it, from many different places because I know where they are. Naturally I associate that with 'if I can do it, anyone can'.

    :eek: wow :o that really is nuts... and I'm not just saying that to emphasise my point... but that's seriously nuts and scary :eek:
    Rygar wrote:
    And shame on Beck.
    :D don't worry, I think I gave her enough grief at the time... she knows now though :)
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    Well there's something our countries, the UK and Canada, do have in common. People get murdered by all sorts of clever methods and instruments.
    :o yep... isn't it wonderful! I think that's something ALL countries have in common... I'm sure even with guns being all over the place and easier to buy than a fucking pack of cigarettes, that they still have inventive ways of killing people too :o
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    :eek: wow :o that really is nuts... and I'm not just saying that to emphasise my point... but that's seriously nuts and scary :eek:
    I suppose it is kind of scary.
    When I was 15 or 16 I got home from school and found a suicide note in my house written by my neighbour. He had taken my dad's shotgun and was going to use it to kill himself (this was before strict gun control, and we lived in the country where nothing bad ever happened to anyone) so the gun was in no way secured, or locked up. I don't know where he got the bullets though...
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    :D don't worry, I think I gave her enough grief at the time... she knows now though :)
    I won't scold her then.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    Well there's something our countries, the UK and Canada, do have in common. People get murdered by all sorts of clever methods and instruments.


    Helen's not in the uK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    :D:D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    dunkman wrote:
    Helen's not in the uK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    :D:D

    Oh I know, that was a joke to get her going.
    ;)
    I was trying to work that one in for 3 or 4 posts. She missed it though ;)
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    well not until it's accepted that you may NOT actually know much about a country you've never visited and never lived in? I haven't made any 'factual comments' about your country which I haven't observed... so I don't get why your so quick to make some about mine.

    These are all GANG related ?

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0211/breaking12.htm

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1206/breaking22.html

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1202/breaking15.html

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1130/breaking43.html

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1128/breaking1.html

    All I am saying is if someone wants to get a hold of a gun for a BAD reason they will

    Not you or your SANE friends but someone who is NOT sane

    Like I said before this THREAD is getting OFF focus
    My drinking team has a hockey problem

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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    Oh I know, that was a joke to get her going.
    ;)
    I was trying to work that one in for 3 or 4 posts. She missed it though ;)


    yeah, the Irish are notoriously thick.... she's probably still trying on that one-eyed balaclava i sent her :D

    she maybe saw it but was being diplomatic?.... and that was my Friday joke ;):)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    Well there's something our countries, the UK and Canada, do have in common. People get murdered by all sorts of clever methods and instruments.
    oh and... how did I miss that one??? :eek: THE UK????????????? :eek: And you making fun of STB??? Ireland is not in the UK.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    dunkman wrote:
    i was speaking geographically... i should have used North America.

    but then again most of you lot think Ireland is part of the UK and that England was the only country who fought in 2 world wars... so i dont think i need to apologise... :p


    Actually I wrote a paper for uni (before I dropped out :p) on Northern Ireland so I do actually know the difference :p I will confess that I sometimes get confused over the whole UK-Great Brit thing but that is all. Silly, we all know the Americans were the only ones who fought in those wars ;)

    and what I am being shamed for? :eek:

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