2007 New England Patriots

NOCODE#1 wrote:

its funny how in the first three quarters you werent impartial enough to post that the ravens were getting away with holding calls.

lol at getting away with calls - Ravens had 13 penalties...

The pats won, plain and simple. Refs have terrible games now and then, and last night was definitely one of them. However, when you give them a reason to by having a history of beating up the other teams receivers then you will get crappy calls against you. The funny thing is that the Pats put this "no touching the receivers" league rule in motion a few years ago by manhandling marvin harrison.

Anyway finally a team bit the bullet and did what I have suggested you could do to the Patriots all year run the ball down their throat until they choke on themselves. Unfortunately the Ravens have no passing game to speak of, however the Steelers do, the Colts do, the Browns do, the Chargers could in the AFC and the Cowboys in the NFC should take note on what the Ravens did today. Unfortunately, none of those teams have the type of Defense that will beat the crap out of the Pats the way the Ravens did last night.

NY PJ1 wrote:

i could care less,,the ravens are a bunch of thugs anyway

but im just saying,, MAKE SET RULES IN REGARDS TO TIMEOUTS

you see it all the time ,, timeouts being called from out of the blue

when u have 10 refs and linejudges spread out over 100 yards or whatever
it can be alittle confusing

your whining again. you wished that the refs didn't honor a timeout the team wanted because it would likely cost the Pats the game. how pathetic.

ryan198 wrote:

The pats won, plain and simple. Refs have terrible games now and then, and last night was definitely one of them. However, when you give them a reason to by having a history of beating up the other teams receivers then you will get crappy calls against you. The funny thing is that the Pats put this "no touching the receivers" league rule in motion a few years ago by manhandling marvin harrison.

Anyway finally a team bit the bullet and did what I have suggested you could do to the Patriots all year run the ball down their throat until they choke on themselves. Unfortunately the Ravens have no passing game to speak of, however the Steelers do, the Colts do, the Browns do, the Chargers could in the AFC and the Cowboys in the NFC should take note on what the Ravens did today. Unfortunately, none of those teams have the type of Defense that will beat the crap out of the Pats the way the Ravens did last night.

last night was not a bad game by the refs, no way. every single Baltimore penalty was legitimate, no marginal calls. they were mauling the receivers.

do you people watch the same game? you guys don't know football.

all4PearlJam wrote:

class and respect??? LOL!! So I guess dancing on the 50 yd-line on the Chargers field is class and respect...

I was talking about Pats losses.

Shawn Merriam deserves that every time the Chargers lose. People like Merriam and Ray Lewis don't deserve respect from any opponent.

all4PearlJam wrote:

according to NFL rules, a coordinator CAN NOT call a T.O. Either way, the Ravens, combined with some bogus calls, lost the game

how do you know that Billick or a player didn't call it too?

http://www6.comcast.net/sports/articles/nfl/2007/12/03/Dungy-Belichick/

NY PJ1 wrote:

everyone seems to think it was the def. cord , but i dont know

There was a clear replay of def. coordinator Rex Ryan calling the timeout, he was standing next to the side judge who was the one who blew the whistle and ran in from the side killing the play. It may have been a mistake to grant if the info that only the HC can call one is accurate, but the fact is it was granted.

So for the Ravens defensive players to be upset with Billick as I have seen elsewhere is laughable, cause it was their boy (who many of the defenders favor over Billick) who made the call that may have cost them the game.


Anyway...twas a very exciting football game.
The officiating was less than stellar..can you imagine if the final play had occured in the end zone and the Ravens had won the game while Derek Mason absolutely mauled Assante Samuel as he prepared to knock the ball down...we'd have had the biggest outcry over officiating since the 85 World Series.

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

replay didn't show Billick, he could of been yelling it too, or a player on the field. you don't know for sure, you shouldn't bring up such a ridiculous excuse.

Thats not a ridiculous excuse. If that had been in reverse, and the Pats made the first down but it was overruled due to the timeout, Pats fan would bitch about it forever. So dont give this shit about excuses. Its a rule. If they arent going to acknowledge the rule, then it shouldnt be in the rulebook.

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

last night was not a bad game by the refs, no way. every single Baltimore penalty was legitimate, no marginal calls. they were mauling the receivers.

do you people watch the same game? you guys don't know football.

i hate the Pats as much or more as anyone but I thought the hold was a penalty. I think people get upset at the timing of the penalty but refs can't let it go because it's 4th down. Now whether Gaffney had full posession was close as well but no way it could have been overturned. Looked to me like he probably had it but a bit of a juggle perhaps at the end. all and all those 2 ended up correctly I think although if that was my team I'd probably be bitching about it too.

Bottom line is the Ravens, like the Eagles, had chances to win the game and didn't get it done while the Pats did. I think the way the Pats have won the last 2 weeks is in some ways even more impressive than blowing teams out. They've been threatened, challenged and taken to the limit but have prevailed. Impressive.