Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • dirtyT
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    Agreed! Well said!
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  • LeatherMosquitoMan
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    rrivers wrote:
    I'd have to see it again to be sure.

    And you can do that here:

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  • NCBRI
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    A lot of talk about who is in the coffin coming up. It's been a while since the episode, but was their any kind of mention of the person in the coffin being a survivor of the plane crash. I mean, obviously Jack and Kate know him so you have to assume it is someone associated with the island, but wouldn't the media be all over the funeral if it were for a member of the "Oceanic 6"? Maybe it is someone else who got off the island, but is not known as a member of the "Oceanic 6". Maybe it is someone who got off the island by other means.
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  • not4u10
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    AllIAm wrote:
    so why have we not discussed the fact that this trial took place in LA and not wherever the crime took place. usually you hold trials that are not federal crimes in the state it happened.

    so maybe... just maybe.. kate was involved in a crime in california.. and maybe it involved claire.. and maybe thats why she's got the kid now.. maybe oh maybe.

    and i agree.. kate ddint want jack on the stand because she didnt want anymore lies...

    she loves aaron..but i think she got him in a very shady way...and there is no way she is going back to that island


    I think that the court scene in LA was just an error.

    http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Eggtown#Bloopers_and_continuity_errors

    I think Claire and Aaron leave the island, just as Desmond envisioned, but something may have happened on the freighter.
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  • not4u10
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    NCBRI wrote:
    A lot of talk about who is in the coffin coming up. It's been a while since the episode, but was their any kind of mention of the person in the coffin being a survivor of the plane crash. I mean, obviously Jack and Kate know him so you have to assume it is someone associated with the island, but wouldn't the media be all over the funeral if it were for a member of the "Oceanic 6"? Maybe it is someone else who got off the island, but is not known as a member of the "Oceanic 6". Maybe it is someone who got off the island by other means.

    http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Newspaper_clipping

    The producers said last week we will find out who is in the coffin by the season finale. I think it is Ben. I think he was murdered by the people he has Sayid trying to kill. Widmore, Abaddon, etc. All those fake passports and $$ he had in the hidden room, I think that was a major clue.
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  • nfanel
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    NCBRI wrote:
    wouldn't the media be all over the funeral if it were for a member of the "Oceanic 6"?
    really good point
  • JSBE
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    not4u10 wrote:
    http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Newspaper_clipping

    The producers said last week we will find out who is in the coffin by the season finale. I think it is Ben. I think he was murdered by the people he has Sayid trying to kill. Widmore, Abaddon, etc. All those fake passports and $$ he had in the hidden room, I think that was a major clue.

    i thought i read in the ew interview that the producers were saying they could keep dragging out the identity of the coffin person until season 5...?

    it is too early for me to throw out a guess as to who the coffin person is. there is still way too much to be revealed (and the subsequent questions) to make a half educated guess right now.
  • AmentsChick
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    NCBRI wrote:
    but wouldn't the media be all over the funeral if it were for a member of the "Oceanic 6"? Maybe it is someone else who got off the island, but is not known as a member of the "Oceanic 6". Maybe it is someone who got off the island by other means.

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  • dirtyT
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE. That was AWESOME!! :D Seriously, excellent point!!!
    Yes very good point.

    I still think Sayid. And again, if he is a killer for Ben, it does Ben no good for the people he is having Sayid kill know that he is dead. So maybe, Sayid dies, and Ben covers it up. Maybe Sayid has an alias or something that Jack and Kate know about....I am reaching.
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  • dawng
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    NCBRI wrote:
    A lot of talk about who is in the coffin coming up. It's been a while since the episode, but was their any kind of mention of the person in the coffin being a survivor of the plane crash. I mean, obviously Jack and Kate know him so you have to assume it is someone associated with the island, but wouldn't the media be all over the funeral if it were for a member of the "Oceanic 6"? Maybe it is someone else who got off the island, but is not known as a member of the "Oceanic 6". Maybe it is someone who got off the island by other means.

    I was thinking about this...what if it is Kate's mom? She was dying...Jack called Kate that night to talk to her about whoever it was, he showed up at the funeral expecting to see someone (Kate?)
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  • AmentsChick
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    *dawn* wrote:
    I was thinking about this...what if it is Kate's mom? She was dying...Jack called Kate that night to talk to her about whoever it was, he showed up at the funeral expecting to see someone (Kate?)

    But surely Kate's mom has friends/family that would attend her funeral, right?!
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  • Solat13
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    But surely Kate's mom has friends/family that would attend her funeral, right?!

    More importantly, why would Kate's mom die in LA and have her funeral there? Isn't she from Iowa?
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  • dawng
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    But surely Kate's mom has friends/family that would attend her funeral, right?!

    Family - does she have any other than Kate? Friends, yep, good point.
    Solat13 wrote:
    More importantly, why would Kate's mom die in LA and have her funeral there? Isn't she from Iowa?

    Yep - good point...they've got me stumped.
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  • rrivers
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    dirtyT wrote:
    Maybe she really, just didn't want Aaron apart of it. Maybe she is trying to keep Aaron behind closed doors to the world. Maybe Oceanic told her to keep Aaron as secret as possible, so that the possibilty of someone who knows it really wasn't hers, doesn't see him. Maybe Oceanic is afraid the world might find out, more people lived/are alive....does this make sense or did I make everyone else stupid?

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  • rrivers
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    Solat13 wrote:
    Jack is always there to bail Kate out. Kate probably wanted to do this on her own. In a case like this - especially with character witnesses, there would be no surprise witnesses so Jack was listed as a possible witness for the defense.

    The fact that Kate got so damaged by the opening remarks of the prosecuting attorney led her counsel to bring Jack as a witness.

    But the fact there was a possibility Jack could testify, plus the fact that Kate didn't want her mom seeing Aaron are why I feel Kate didn't want him in court. Plus the obvious reason, Aaron thinks Kate is his mom. How traumatic would it be for a toddler to see their "mom" in handcuffs?

    Still a stretch to say Kate didn't want Aaron there because Jack would testify, or she thought he might. Kate was really surprised when Jack took the stand. And if she didn't want Jack to see Aaron why did she invite him to her house?

    I think Kate is just protective of Aaron and doesn't want to make things more traumatic for him than they already are. Maybe she feels some guilt over whatever happened to Claire, and I'm sure she doesn't want anyone from the island to have to be dragged into a trial for what she did pre-island.
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  • rrivers
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    AllIAm wrote:
    so why have we not discussed the fact that this trial took place in LA and not wherever the crime took place. usually you hold trials that are not federal crimes in the state it happened.

    so maybe... just maybe.. kate was involved in a crime in california.. and maybe it involved claire.. and maybe thats why she's got the kid now.. maybe oh maybe.

    It is strange that the trial took place in LA. I do think they made it pretty obvious that the crime she was on trial for was the killing of her father. That's why her mom was testifying.
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  • rrivers
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    JSBE wrote:
    i thought i read in the ew interview that the producers were saying they could keep dragging out the identity of the coffin person until season 5...?

    No, I think I read they are revealing that this season, maybe in the first 7? That could be wishful thinking on my part.
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  • Poncier
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    *dawn* wrote:
    I was thinking about this...what if it is Kate's mom? She was dying...Jack called Kate that night to talk to her about whoever it was, he showed up at the funeral expecting to see someone (Kate?)
    The fact that the obit Jack had said "Man from NY dies..." would lead me to believe it is not Kate's mom in the casket, unless sometime after the trial she flies to Sweden to have addadictomy surgery.
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  • nfanel
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    JSBE wrote:
    i thought i read in the ew interview that the producers were saying they could keep dragging out the identity of the coffin person until season 5...?

    it is too early for me to throw out a guess as to who the coffin person is. there is still way too much to be revealed (and the subsequent questions) to make a half educated guess right now.
    michael emerson said that on a radio interview, too.
    and i, too, give up on trying to guess who's in the coffin.
  • dirtyT
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    Poncier wrote:
    The fact that the obit Jack had said "Man from NY dies..." would lead me to believe it is not Kate's mom in the casket, unless sometime after the trial she flies to Sweden to have addadictomy surgery.
    Good call. So, someone who lives in NY, is having a funeral in LA?
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