Morons who bring people into their row/seats...

even flow? · July 2008

NiteLite10 wrote:

Chill... some people definitely take it too far but if you had 3rd row seats and a couple friends who were big fans, wouldn't you want to share the "specialness" of your seats with them? It depends on whether there is enough space and whether people are polite about it of course.

For the record I did not sneak up anyone this tour although I have done it a couple times in the past. I've always kept the friends crammed into my "seat area" and tried to minimize disruption to anyone else. consider sharing the love a little...

There's barely enough room in "your seat area" for you. Why would you think that anybody would want less room? Asshats who pull that shit off. Good news is they are usually the drunk morons who get elbowed as we dance and bounce our asses off.

3inputchick · July 2008

Bearsfirehawk wrote:

You are a tool. I guess someone put you in charge of everything. Sorry I missed the memo. Asshat.

LOL.... asshat???

Say what you want.... we had 3 of us in a row where we only had 2 tickets.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

ScottandPearlJam · July 2008

Early on I hated it but my ex-girlfriend was beyond angry when this would happen. She would get security.....I thought it was funny. Sad part early on she wasn't a PJ fan but grew over time. Someone getting between her and MIKE M.......don't stand in her way.

Scott

poto101 · July 2008

Heineken Helen wrote:

Huh? so you mean these people were decent enough to give up their great seats for PJ fans but wanted them when their act was on? My god, how terrible! Just cos it's a co-headling show doesn't mean you have to give a fuck about the other band... OR you can think 'those people want it more'. I was 2nd row at lolla for MMJ... the girl behind me was SERIOUSLY excited, I didn't know any of their music so I let her in front of me. It was no big deal, she wanted it more, that's all.

there were a few open seats, completely open. we didnt even squeeze in.

all i was getting at is that there are times when sneaking some friends in is okay. personally I don't see anything wrong with three people taking up 2 seats. its really only crowded for the three people in that case.

Heineken Helen · July 2008

poto101 wrote:

there were a few open seats, completely open. we didnt even squeeze in.

all i was getting at is that there are times when sneaking some friends in is okay. personally I don't see anything wrong with three people taking up 2 seats. its really only crowded for the three people in that case.

AND the people behind them

URthekey · July 2008

If I get to my seat and there is someone in it I just say, 'this is my seat', they move and its not a problem, as long as I have enought room to bounce around when the music starts its all good. I can't control what people next to me are doing and I don't try to. If I see an open seat up front I move up. If someone comes for it, I move back. (or up more...lol)

Hinny · July 2008

I like to flail. Violently, but only in my own space as defined by a seat, where the show is seated. If people want to move into my space, I'm not exactly gonna tune down on my flailing. If you get into my space and get hit by my normal course of flailing arms and swinging head and shakin' hips, that's your problem, you don't need to be there with me, and you can solve this by getting back to wherever the fuck you came from.

Now if it's GA, then it's a whole other matter.

cat72 · July 2008

noceiling wrote:

um, ask him to move so you can sit down. is that so hard?

what was he going to do stand in front of me, there was no where for him to go...

Heineken Helen · July 2008

cat72 wrote:

what was he going to do stand in front of me, there was no where for him to go...

back to his seat! No WAY would I let him away with that

Vedderman23 · July 2008

Cosmo wrote:

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At Irvine Meadows in 2003... I was with a Club Member with a 69,000 number and we were in the second row. These two girls tried to squeeze in front of us... which I probably wouldn't have minded if they asked because they were kinda cute... but, they just kind of tried to take over like they owned the place (something I don't really care for).
I told them that if they we planning on standing there all night... they would have to allow me to rest my hands on their tits or ass... all night.
Of course... I get the requesite disgusting look... you know the one... like they just got a giant whiff of cat shit... and split.
But, you know me... I don't give a shit. And I don't like it when people think they can do whatever they want.

post of the day.

ReleaseMe... · July 2008

i needed a ticket for Mans II. i found numerous people from the board with extra 10c tickets, basically the day of the show. i didnt ask for what their 10c number was, and i took the first person who sent me a message.

the meetup at the ticket window was great, way early, and of course i paid full face value.

a few songs in, he starts bringing his friends in to 'our' seats...up to about 4...and instead of sitting there in beautiful 10c seats smushed to death, i had to give up and walked into the lawn for the entire show. a 5'4'' girl would have been trampled by 5 men in their 40's....i felt i had no other choice. it was a horrible experience.

i wasnt even supposed to stay for night 2, but after how short the show felt on Saturday, i felt i had to come back for the finale. i suppose i could name names, but what good would that do?

coach pj · July 2008

I think people should stay where it says their seat is. If you want to trade with someone, great, if not, don't bring them down. There is no reason why, for instance, at Mansfield 2 I needed to be crammed into my seat with two of someone else's drunk friends that had lawn seats. Let the people who have their seats enjoy them. You do not have to be close to enjoy a show. The entitlement factor by some people is unreal. No one deserves anything more than anyone else, and they should not feel they have a right to impose their friends on others. There is a reason why it is "reserved seating." I am not a huge rule follower, but I would not feel comfortable bringing a friend down or going down to a friend's seat because I do not think it is right.

Ryan_WFC · July 2008

I admit to doing this and sneaking someone into the pit for Camden 2003. I realize now that it was lame and unfair to the other fans in that row.

The most I'll do now is sneak someone into the pavilion and then walk down to my seats. He/she just stands there for a while to find an empty seat in the back, and if he/she can't, they go back to the lawn. They usually can.

arhoops · July 2008

@ Mansfield 1 this year I was REALLY PISSED! Two guys, drunk off their asses, just decided to waltz into my row cos there was ONE open seat between me, and the lovely lady next to me. First off, the first guy was huge, and having two of them didn't make for much room for the rest off.

Then they proceeded to act like morons the whole time there were there... and tried putting their arms around me and shit and acting like we were buddies now. I told him to fuck off.

Then they left for a little but came back for the encores.

To top it all off, they tried to pull a stunt that got me, and the other lovely PJ fans around me, pissed. When the lights went up my gf and I were talking about what an incredible night it had been... I then turned to my seat where I had placed my new PJ shopping bag and t-shirt to see they were missing. I looked down the aisle to see the two douche bags trying to get out quick before everyone... I chased them down the aisle and told them to give me my shit back... they tried to play it off like they didn't know it was mine, and said that they asked everyone and no one claimed it... bullshit!

Meanwhile I was happy to notice that most people in my area had taken an interest in this and were ready to help me out if need be.... it wasn't needed tho... they gave me my shit back, I once again told them to fuck off... and that was that...

Seriously... bullshit... only downer of that night.

Chief Bromden · July 2008

pearljim wrote:

Boston 2:
What is up with the idiots that let 2,3, 4 or more people into their row with tix from other people? Must have had 6 people go by me to stand with their friends about 6 seats from me. If they had been next to me it would have been annoyng as hell.....Why don't the idiots with the seats just go up to lawn with all their buddies and not cram 8 people into 3 seats?

Best to just relax and enjoy the show IMO.

wendy wrocks · July 2008

pjalli wrote:

at Beacon last night, right as the set started two guys tried to stand right in front of me and my friend in our row in the orchestra. there's not exactly a lot of room there, and having someone stand in front of me (i'm only 5'2") was just not going to work. so i took out my bberry for light and inspected their tix, and pointed them to their seats. they were pissed! if there were enough room for all of us, i definitely wouldn't have cared, but having a tall dude stand right in front of me all night i didn't think was too cool..

I was in Row FF front row, upper balcony - looked good on paper........
that's all I'm going to say........

grjammer · July 2008

This was a problem at DC for me in Section 2, Row X. There were clearly more people standing the row than there were seats. I was basically standing directly in front of the person next to me and couldn't sit down to rest during the encore breaks.

I'm not sure who was responsible but it was definitely lame.

Douchebags...

flywallyfly · July 2008

At a recent Iron Maiden concert I allowed two dudes who were squeezed into the row in front of me stand next to me after security made them move. The only reason I did this of course was because they were in the Bandidos biker gang and I just didnt feel like saying no to all 15 of them...lol. They had some quality green so it all worked out great !!

Cosmo · July 2008

NiteLite10 wrote:

Wow... ok... many bad vibes.

First, they do "share my seat" and don't take others' seats. It does result in a bit of crowding (mostly for me) but very little spill over to other seat areas. If I think we couldn't fit without significantly disrupting others I wouldn't bring anyone else down.

As far as these suggestions of switching for a while.... isn't the other big complaint that people are moving in and out of rows? aren't people going to get annoyed if I leave and then someone else comes back?

I absolutely would not bring someone up because I want to hang out with the person. I bring them up because I think they deserve an "up close" experience because it's so amazing.

If I met you or another fan and we got to talking... and then found out you'd never been close (and probably never would be) ... then, I saw my seats and thought we would fit. I might bring you up. That's how it works for me. The only people I ever brought up close were a PJ fan I had just met at a preparty and my little brother who is a fan. This was also on the last tour before there was a lottery so in my mind they pretty much never would have a chance to be close otherwise.

I agree that there are assholes that do this who are not respectful. It doesn't mean that *everyone* who does this is uncool and will ruin your night. All I'm asking is for some open-mindedness...

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You are still trying to spin it off as some kind of act of kindness and caring. But is it an act of kindness and sharing is it imposes on others? You really know it doesn't bother anyone else because, in most cases, they won't say anything to you about it... right?
And if you met me and offered me to come down and squeeze into one seat... I'd thank you and respectfully decline. Because it would be selfish of me to infringe on the other.
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As for "... isn't the other big complaint that people are moving in and out of rows? " to cover yourself for not moving back to their seat. Come on... that's a reach. Once out someone else in is not a constant stream of interruptions.
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And it's not like sharing a meatball sandwich with your friend... you know, cut it half... half for me, half for you.
It would be more like you taking a bite... chewing on it for a while... then spitting into your friend's mouth and him chewing up and swallowing it. Then he takes a bite.. spits it up and you swallow it. That may be okay for the two of you, but it might not work for the people around you.

Hawkshore · July 2008

NiteLite10 wrote:

I get the awesome seats already, ... but I get a rush out of being able to provide that experience to someone else once in a while in the right circumstances. (and not to a buddy - to a fellow fan)... and I don't think I necessarily have to give up my own seat to do it. ... just judge the circumstances and be respectful.

What if I bring down a skinny girl who's 5'2"? (and I'm a girl and 5'5") ... she could easily fit in front of me and there's no way it would disrupt anyone but me. Is that ok ... any takers?

I call BULLSHIT!!! ....unless you are both the size of Mini Me you are encroaching on somebody’s space and being an asshole by diminishing their experience. As other people have said give these people you want to help your seat if you really want to be a philanthropist ……and not an asshole!!!

Morons who bring people into their row/seats...

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