How can this be defended?

PapaJam
PapaJam Posts: 23
edited March 2008 in The Porch
Why are so many Fans defending what has happened today? This is a big time band who makes millions touring. They have a fan club so fans have a voice. Unfortunately now most fans are at the mercy of ticket rapping brokers.
I am sorry but I can no longer defend The Ten Club. I was one of the lucky fans to get Philly and New York...I should walk up to the window at show time and then rip them in spite.

And please Do not compare them to what other bands do..I frankly dont care
If I had known then what I know now.....

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    PapaJam wrote:
    Why are so many Fans defending what has happened today?

    because most of us got tickets:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=278461
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    So I'm assuming you think the 10C has endless amounts of tickets to sell?

    They sell what they have and when its sold out it's sold out. Simple fact.

    its not 2000 or 1998, TM has a limit on what fanclubs can sell and with a market like NYC for the MSG this is no surprise.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    PapaJam wrote:
    Why are so many Fans defending what has happened today? This is a big time band who makes millions touring. They have a fan club so fans have a voice. Unfortunately now most fans are at the mercy of ticket rapping brokers.
    I am sorry but I can no longer defend The Ten Club. I was one of the lucky fans to get Philly and New York...I should walk up to the window at show time and then rip them in spite.

    And please Do not compare them to what other bands do..I frankly dont care


    I read your post and I am not even sure what the problem is? There is a limited number of seats and a very high demand, and I don't really see any way to get around that unless Pearl Jam tours non-stop and plays every city in the world not stopping until every fan has seen them and is happy. Otherwise some people are going to get left out. It sucks but that's life.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I'd be interested to see if more people from the east coast were shut out though. I'm wondering if people closer to the server had an advantage in this case.
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    PapaJam wrote:
    Why are so many Fans defending what has happened today? This is a big time band who makes millions touring. They have a fan club so fans have a voice. Unfortunately now most fans are at the mercy of ticket rapping brokers.
    I am sorry but I can no longer defend The Ten Club. I was one of the lucky fans to get Philly and New York...I should walk up to the window at show time and then rip them in spite.

    And please Do not compare them to what other bands do..I frankly dont care

    What exactly is your fucking problem, man?

    Seriously?

    A. You fucking got tickets
    B. ANY one who has been around here for ANY length of time should have known that there WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH SUPPLY TO MEET DEMAND and they should have been aware of the nature of the 10C server
    C. ITS NOT THE 10Clubs fault ... BLAME TICKETMASTER - the ones who put a cap on fanlcub allotments
    D. Tickets through 10C are a PRIVELAGE, not a RIGHT
    E. So what exactly is your fucking problem?

    I don't think anyone is defending the 10c for their server issues, but the fundamental issue at play here is Demand is greater than Supply. NOTHING would have stopped SOME people from not getting tickets.

    SO WHAT DID YOU WANT THEM TO DO?
    :confused:
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    Just try TM now. Some of you people hit one bump in the road and want to give up. If you really want to go you'll find a way to make it happen. I have no sympathy for this sht.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • PapaJam
    PapaJam Posts: 23
    Aren't these shows for fans?
    If I had known then what I know now.....

    "How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it."
    Marcus Aurelius
  • fugawzi
    fugawzi Posts: 891
    PapaJam wrote:
    Why are so many Fans defending what has happened today? This is a big time band who makes millions touring. They have a fan club so fans have a voice. Unfortunately now most fans are at the mercy of ticket rapping brokers.
    I am sorry but I can no longer defend The Ten Club. I was one of the lucky fans to get Philly and New York...I should walk up to the window at show time and then rip them in spite.

    And please Do not compare them to what other bands do..I frankly dont care

    what exactly are you upset at the tenclub FOR? not having enough tix? also, what do you mean by "I was one of the lucky fans to get Philly and New York"?
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    PapaJam wrote:
    Aren't these shows for fans?

    Yeah and it looked like there were more fans than tickets. Tough break. Sorry.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    justam wrote:
    I'd be interested to see if more people from the east coast were shut out though. I'm wondering if people closer to the server had an advantage in this case.
    I live close to NYC and got shut out of both shows, so I don't think location had anything to do with getting tix. I did get Camden show tickets as a back up because I had a feeling MSG would be a problem. I was very disappointed about the process for MSG because the site crashed and even though I was logged on and had the page up it wouldn't process my order. I thought the Borgata was tough, but at least I got a pair for that one!

    Anyway, have a great time to those lucky people who got tix. I'm envious, but happy for those fans who managed to get some. :)
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    I live close to NYC and got shut out of both shows, so I don't think location had anything to do with getting tix.

    I meant people closer to the west coast where their computer is.
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  • nimsu8
    nimsu8 Posts: 321
    PapaJam wrote:
    Aren't these shows for fans?


    and what are the other people who get their tix from TM? are they not fans? just because they don;t belong to 10c doesn't mean they are any less worthy of seeing a band.
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  • se7v7en
    se7v7en Philadelphia, PA Posts: 329
    What are they suppoded to do?

    They have as many tickets as ticket master gives them?
  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    what exactly happened?

    another thread is calling it the msg abortion

    I want details!
    pls
    :)
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  • SuzannePjam
    SuzannePjam Posts: 411
    justam wrote:
    I meant people closer to the west coast where their computer is.
    Oh, duh! LOL! I had a glass of wine to drown out my sorrows, so I guess I'm not all there. :D

    I'm curious too, as some people got them for both nights with such ease, and yet others couldn't get any nights at all.
    "Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

    "Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
    But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
  • ehcanc
    ehcanc Posts: 179
    I don't care what your 10C number is or what part of the country you're flying in from ... my issue is that some people got tickets to multiple shows and some didn't get tickets AT ALL. That is WRONG.
    Everything has chains, absolutely nothings changed.

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  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    wrong?

    why?

    ehcanc wrote:
    I don't care what your 10C number is or what part of the country you're flying in from ... my issue is that some people got tickets to multiple shows and some didn't get tickets AT ALL. That is WRONG.
    http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk103/Moonturltemoon/PJ MSG 6-24-08/

    Mihi cura futuri.

    The elements they speak to me.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradiostations/NewYork1050/gallery/35218855.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3gQO1WxUk
    so cute they are
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    LeilaMoonTurtle wrote:
    what exactly happened?

    another thread is calling it the msg abortion

    I want details!
    pls
    :)

    Same shit that always happens with high demand items on 10c servers.
    The servers freaked out, dumped items out of peoples carts when they went to buy. Froze up and timed out during processing, gave people the "buy" and then "temporarily out of stock" (because like 1 pair went back in, and by the time they clicked buy, they were gone) ... and so fort.

    SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT CRY BABIES.

    Shit gets old.
    Wish we could have the "Message Pit Abortion" right about now.
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    Oh, duh! LOL! I had a glass of wine to drown out my sorrows, so I guess I'm not all there. :D

    I'm curious too, as some people got them for both nights with such ease, and yet others couldn't get any nights at all.

    Yeah. I wish I'd had some wine.

    I'm just whining instead. :D
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    culot4 wrote:
    Just try TM now. Some of you people hit one bump in the road and want to give up. If you really want to go you'll find a way to make it happen. I have no sympathy for this sht.

    Bingo. Thousands tried, some succeeded. Every needs to stop acting like spoiled brats. I got shut out of night 1. I'll get them through TM. It happens. We are not entitled to anything.
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