Iran is lying about its nuke program

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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Make it easy to send the 19 year olds to face the bullets and lifetime in wheelchairs, huh?

    no, i guess i would sent the people who SIGNED UPto be in the army...you know those people who go to war for their country
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If you're not joking. You're insane...for real.

    Seriously.

    i'm just koo koo for nuke juice
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    810wmb wrote:
    i'm just koo koo for nuke juice


    of koo koo for cocoa puffs ;)
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The is beginning to sound like the Iraq has WMD thing to me...

    a whole lot...

    It is totally the WMD's all over again. I remember saddam not fully complying with the wepons inspectors and therefore that meant he did have WMD's which funnily enough he did not.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    spiral out wrote:
    It is totally the WMD's all over again. I remember saddam not fully complying with the wepons inspectors and therefore that meant he did have WMD's which funnily enough he did not.

    It can't happen twice in a row (can it?). This new pre-emptive strategy is nothing but fear mongering. The worst part is because it's in the dark, each time.

    Turn the lights out and imagine all the bad things that can come out of your closet....let your imagination run wild while the media plays all sorts of scary music in the background!

    I mean g-dammit already.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I sure hope we never invade. even if proof is on the table. but they are just asking for trouble by doing this shit.

    So, what is it? Invasion? Bombs?
    I think that if china and russia weren't overprotective of Iran, bombs would already have dropped. The situation is blocked because nothing can be done right now, and meanwhile Iran is provocating everyone because it makes the US and the EU's influence less and less credible on the international scene.

    And if Iran looks at it's major muslim neighbours : Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkey : one of them is a US ally, one of them has the nuclear bomb and two of them have been invaded. That may have given them some kind of clue on what is happening around.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    810wmb wrote:
    i've said it before, i'll say it again

    i hope we bomb the hell out of iran


    This is why 911 looked great!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    It is totally the WMD's all over again. I remember saddam not fully complying with the wepons inspectors and therefore that meant he did have WMD's which funnily enough he did not.

    why cant you and your tea bag partner roland understand the one huge major difference......their president is openly admitting to enriching uranium.....and now is purposely hiding something.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kann wrote:
    So, what is it? Invasion? Bombs?
    I think that if china and russia weren't overprotective of Iran, bombs would already have dropped. The situation is blocked because nothing can be done right now, and meanwhile Iran is provocating everyone because it makes the US and the EU's influence less and less credible on the international scene.

    And if Iran looks at it's major muslim neighbours : Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkey : one of them is a US ally, one of them has the nuclear bomb and two of them have been invaded. That may have given them some kind of clue on what is happening around.

    all of the bullshit you just mentioned can be avoided if Iran is 100% transparent and honest with their program.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why cant you and your tea bag partner roland understand the one huge major difference......their president is openly admitting to enriching uranium.....and now is purposely hiding something.


    If it is hiding something that bothers you so much. You should have no qualms about any country invading Israel to prove that they have nuclear weapons. Or even bombing them just cause they won't be honest. I know you wouldn't have a problem with that now would you? Jews are no more honest then the Arabs in the area.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all of the bullshit you just mentioned can be avoided if Iran is 100% transparent and honest with their program.

    Yes I understood that, but they won't be 100% transpartent because it makes the US and the EU look like a bunch of fools and why should they refrain from doing that? But what if they keep on doing what they do? What was your point by saying "I sure hope we never invade. even if proof is on the table. but they are just asking for trouble by doing this shit."?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    seriously, does everyone think its ok for Iran to have nukes?

    all nuclear weapons should be disarmed completely... we need to progress to a nuclear weapon free world for our future generations. if we dont we are a complete failure

    including our 10,000 nuclear weapons currently in stockpile
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    810wmb wrote:
    i've said it before, i'll say it again

    i hope we bomb the hell out of iran

    disgusting

    you act like it is a video game...

    grow up
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why cant you and your tea bag partner roland understand the one huge major difference......their president is openly admitting to enriching uranium.....and now is purposely hiding something.

    Yes jlew he is admitting enriching uranium for a nuclear power station, no?

    Did you believe it when they lied and said saddam had WMD's? I bet your post were the same as this one.

    Personally to me newspapers, goverments, you know the desperate for war people, have lied so much that i don't believe a word they say anymore. Hell i wonder if they know anymore when they speak actual truth.

    Ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?

    And also i still do not see why Iran should not have nukes. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Yes jlew he is admitting enriching uranium for a nuclear power station, no?
    then why lie about it to the IAEA and not be 100% transparent?
    spiral out wrote:
    Did you believe it when they lied and said saddam had WMD's? I bet your post were the same as this one.
    saddam did have WMDs at some point in time. where they went probably died with saddam.
    spiral out wrote:
    Personally to me newspapers, goverments, you know the desperate for war people, have lied so much that i don't believe a word they say anymore. Hell i wonder if they know anymore when they speak actual truth.
    well the people talking in the article I posted work for the IAEA. maybe you shouldnt have such a closed minded view of the world.

    spiral out wrote:
    And also i still do not see why Iran should not have nukes. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
    because this isnt a fucking game. we cant let everyone in the world have nukes just because. if they want nuclear power, thats different, but they are openly lying about their program now. their are rules to follow in this game, and they're not. Iran having nukes could lead to an arms race in the region with all extremist Islamic fascists dictators seeking to gain these horrible weapons. most of those governments have proven they cant be trusted and these ruthless dictators change all the time. just look at pakistan. that is the last country on earth who should have them, but they do. now the world is watching to see who comes to power.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    even flow? wrote:
    This is why 911 looked great!


    what does this mean?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    my2hands wrote:
    disgusting

    you act like it is a video game...

    grow up


    hey slick, you grow up...

    i'm aware it's not a video game, champ

    pull your head outta yr butt

    everyone believes iran when the say they don't want nukes, but when the say they want israel gone, everyone says "he's just blowing smoke"

    what a bunch of crap
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    810wmb wrote:
    what does this mean?


    Did you magically forget what you typed in the quote that proceeded my comment?


    Anyway Jlew and crew. If we were worried about lies being a reason to bomb and invade places, the whole lead up to your and yes it is your Iraqi war would be less then enough to have bombs dropped on the good ole U S of Eh. You know the WMD, uranium from Niger, the whole BS shooting match most of you bought into.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    even flow? wrote:
    Did you magically forget what you typed in the quote that proceeded my comment?


    Anyway Jlew and crew. If we were worried about lies being a reason to bomb and invade places, the whole lead up to your and yes it is your Iraqi war would be less then enough to have bombs dropped on the good ole U S of Eh. You know the WMD, uranium from Niger, the whole BS shooting match most of you bought into.

    no, i read it..why does 9/11 look good?

    yeah, what about all the other crap iraq did..anyway, i think they had wmd's anyway. it's been proved that shitdamm had some chem factorys either starting or started..


    the biggest difference is we know the guy has the nuke plants up and running, spouting shit and beating the drum for war.

    so fuck him...i really hope we do bomb his ass
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even flow? wrote:


    Anyway Jlew and crew. If we were worried about lies being a reason to bomb and invade places, the whole lead up to your and yes it is your Iraqi war would be less then enough to have bombs dropped on the good ole U S of Eh. You know the WMD, uranium from Niger, the whole BS shooting match most of you bought into.


    I have said from the beginning, (even in some posts in the fucking thread) that invasion is that last thing I want. even if they have them.

    and I especially do not want bombings or invasion based on lies alone.

    you fucking people are so thick. there is a big difference between WMD with Iran and Iraq. Saddam said they didnt have them and Iran's president said they are moving forward with enriching uranium. Iran's president will stand there and say its for electricity but proceed to lie about it directly to the IAEA.

    as much as I dont want war with Iran, if they move forward with the program and continue to openly lie and give the world the finger, they will suffer the consequences.

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