Infact a few post up you told me that Iraq had WMD's and there for the reason to go to war was valid and now you are agreeing that Iraq had no WMD's so it was a LIE make you mind up will you.
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The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Yes and your point is what? The reasons for going to war were false, so weather they had WMDs a few years previously or not is of no consequence little boy.
well, you're full of crap...the 17 resolutions, the world's backing, him killing his own, on and on.....
I'm not little. and maybe you should try some of your own material
good to see you finally agree that WMDs existed. now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go debate with some of the grown ups.
Look did they find these so called WMD's which was the whole reason for going to war, NO they did not.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Infact a few post up you told me that Iraq had WMD's and there for the reason to go to war was valid and now you are agreeing that Iraq had no WMD's so it was a LIE make you mind up will you.
where did I say it was valid for going to war? please show me. all I said is that Iraq did have WMDs. something you denied and told me to get over until 2 posts ago.
maybe a couple other states? you mean Germany, France, UK, Brazil, Autria, Singapore, Epypt, India, Luxenburg, Spain, China and im sure many more we dont know about eh?
I have never used a that was then line. and I have no idea what you are getting at anyway?
your fucking rants make no sense. its the IAEA who is calling the shots. not the US, France, UK or anyone else.
At least you try and read them so I will give you credit there.
Anyway jlew, I'll put this in a way you can understand it.
It was okay when the shah was in power in Iran, that the United States of America was willing to pitch in and give a power plant and how to use it to them. But now that you don't have a puppet in Iran calling the shots, you and some others seem to have problem with it.
So if your boy the shah had a power plant or two up and operating and then got turfed from the country, it would have been okay. I think you people down there really need to keep a tab on what really goes on in the entire world when your CIA backed governments in these countries get given all the goods to control the population so the corporations can make big bucks and keep smiles on people's faces in America such as your own. Then you balk when things go wrong. Aside from the west, the rest of the world seem to know how to take a corrupt government down. We should learn from them over here.
Look did they find these so called WMD's which was the whole reason for going to war, NO they did not.
no they didnt find them. which means they still exist somewhere out there. cool huh? maybe a hole in the desert, maybe syria has them, maybe you and roland and byzine do and are planning to deliver a package to the big bad USA. possibilities are endless.
where did I say it was valid for going to war? please show me. all I said is that Iraq did have WMDs. something you denied and told me to get over until 2 posts ago.
You are talking pre war, i am talking WAR and reasons for starting it.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
It was okay when the shah was in power in Iran, that the United States of America was willing to pitch in and give a power plant and how to use it to them. But now that you don't have a puppet in Iran calling the shots, you and some others seem to have problem with it.
if Iran was being honest and 100% trasparent about the program, we wouldnt be talking about this.
So if your boy the shah had a power plant or two up and operating and then got turfed from the country, it would have been okay. I think you people down there really need to keep a tab on what really goes on in the entire world when your CIA backed governments in these countries get given all the goods to control the population so the corporations can make big bucks and keep smiles on people's faces in America such as your own. Then you balk when things go wrong. Aside from the west, the rest of the world seem to know how to take a corrupt government down. We should learn from them over here.
anther endless pointless rant. thumbs up to you eh
no they didnt find them. which means they still exist somewhere out there. cool huh? maybe a hole in the desert, maybe syria has them, maybe you and roland and byzine do and are planning to deliver a package to the big bad USA. possibilities are endless.
OMG this is what i mean, your head is so far up your backside, even when the truth is told to you hold on to the lies.
Hell you could have bush and his croonies come and tell you we lied straight to your face and you would still belive there are WMD's out there.
Brickwall.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
You are talking pre war, i am talking WAR and reasons for starting it.
I wasnt talking war or pre war. just stating the fact the they existed. for me, that was never a reason to go to war. and I feel the same way about Iran. even if they are PROVEN to have nukes, I dont want war with them. but guess what, it will happen. and thats on them.
what lies? you admit the saddam has WMDs. YOU ADMIT THAT. hell you cant deny it, its been proven. the big bad USA gave it to him remember?
second fact, they were never found.
what am I wrong about brickwall?
Iraq was sold material to make weapons. Before the sanctions and during the war with Iran they were able to make weapons and use them but after the sanctions they weren't anymore. They could barely feed themselves. I'll be surprised if they didn't learn how to live off anthrax.
Anyway.. the UN found useless biohazardous material that had gone off in broken down factories.
There is a thread about the interview with Saddam. He even says they never had any ANYMORE and he was only maintaining that thought to scare off the Iranians.
So don't build your bomb shelter just yet, if Syria has these types of weapons they didn't come from post-UN sanctions Iraq.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Iraq was sold material to make weapons. Before the sanctions and during the war with Iran they were able to make weapons and use them but after the sanctions they weren't anymore. They could barely feed themselves. I'll be surprised if they didn't learn how to live off anthrax.
Anyway.. the UN found useless biohazardous material that had gone off in broken down factories.
There is a thread about the interview with Saddam. He even says they never had any ANYMORE and he was only maintaining that thought to scare off the Iranians.
So don't build your bomb shelter just yet, if Syria has these types of weapons they didn't come from post-UN sanctions Iraq.
ok maybe I should be more clear. the materials were never found. and I see no reason why those materials couldnt have gone into Syria. but probably unlikely
and I need no bomb shelter. I dont feel a threat for any mideast country. only from Islamic fundamentalism, which has no borders.
and you wonder why you have zero respect around here.
Ooo Touchy. No room for humor this morning I see.
So now Iraq was justified. When did that break the news?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
ok maybe I should be more clear. the materials were never found. and I see no reason why those materials couldnt have gone into Syria. but probably unlikely
and I need no bomb shelter. I dont feel a threat for any mideast country. only from Islamic fundamentalism, which has no borders.
A lot of material was found. Read the UN reports. The rest was fed to the Kurds and Iranians with western authority.
you will never hear me say the invasion of Iraq was justified.
It what it looks like to me. Maybe I'm reading between the lines too hard.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
and I need no bomb shelter. I dont feel a threat for any mideast country. only from Islamic fundamentalism, which has no borders.
As for this, the statistics show you are more likely to be shot dead by a murderer or robber than ever even finding out about a person you know who was attacked by an Islamic fundamentalist.
So now Iraq was justified. When did that break the news?
Just now cos Jlew made it up as usual.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
As for this, the statistics show you are more likely to be shot dead by a murderer or robber than ever even finding out about a person you know who was attacked by an Islamic fundamentalist.
yea I agree. and its nice we havent been attacked since 9/11 but until we leave Iraq and the Israel issue is worked out, the threat will remain. maybe more now then before 9/11
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Infact a few post up you told me that Iraq had WMD's and there for the reason to go to war was valid and now you are agreeing that Iraq had no WMD's so it was a LIE make you mind up will you.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
well, you're full of crap...the 17 resolutions, the world's backing, him killing his own, on and on.....
Look did they find these so called WMD's which was the whole reason for going to war, NO they did not.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
where did I say it was valid for going to war? please show me. all I said is that Iraq did have WMDs. something you denied and told me to get over until 2 posts ago.
At least you try and read them so I will give you credit there.
Anyway jlew, I'll put this in a way you can understand it.
It was okay when the shah was in power in Iran, that the United States of America was willing to pitch in and give a power plant and how to use it to them. But now that you don't have a puppet in Iran calling the shots, you and some others seem to have problem with it.
So if your boy the shah had a power plant or two up and operating and then got turfed from the country, it would have been okay. I think you people down there really need to keep a tab on what really goes on in the entire world when your CIA backed governments in these countries get given all the goods to control the population so the corporations can make big bucks and keep smiles on people's faces in America such as your own. Then you balk when things go wrong. Aside from the west, the rest of the world seem to know how to take a corrupt government down. We should learn from them over here.
no they didnt find them. which means they still exist somewhere out there. cool huh? maybe a hole in the desert, maybe syria has them, maybe you and roland and byzine do and are planning to deliver a package to the big bad USA. possibilities are endless.
You are talking pre war, i am talking WAR and reasons for starting it.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
anther endless pointless rant. thumbs up to you eh
OMG this is what i mean, your head is so far up your backside, even when the truth is told to you hold on to the lies.
Hell you could have bush and his croonies come and tell you we lied straight to your face and you would still belive there are WMD's out there.
Brickwall.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
i think they had them...
also, the point is there were a BUNCH of other reasons for going to war besides wmd's
I wasnt talking war or pre war. just stating the fact the they existed. for me, that was never a reason to go to war. and I feel the same way about Iran. even if they are PROVEN to have nukes, I dont want war with them. but guess what, it will happen. and thats on them.
Do you people even get the big picture?
I don't think you phathom where the hate really comes from!
what lies? you admit the saddam has WMDs. YOU ADMIT THAT. hell you cant deny it, its been proven. the big bad USA gave it to him remember?
second fact, they were never found.
what am I wrong about brickwall?
jesus H christ. you make no sense. im shocked you have so many posts. you never add anything to a discussion. what is this little rant about?
please tell us the big picture. or maybe you should tell it to the IAEA.
duuuude, put down the bong
yr ass it cornered. give it up
Iraq was sold material to make weapons. Before the sanctions and during the war with Iran they were able to make weapons and use them but after the sanctions they weren't anymore. They could barely feed themselves. I'll be surprised if they didn't learn how to live off anthrax.
Anyway.. the UN found useless biohazardous material that had gone off in broken down factories.
There is a thread about the interview with Saddam. He even says they never had any ANYMORE and he was only maintaining that thought to scare off the Iranians.
So don't build your bomb shelter just yet, if Syria has these types of weapons they didn't come from post-UN sanctions Iraq.
His rants are classic material.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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ok maybe I should be more clear. the materials were never found. and I see no reason why those materials couldnt have gone into Syria. but probably unlikely
and I need no bomb shelter. I dont feel a threat for any mideast country. only from Islamic fundamentalism, which has no borders.
and you wonder why you have zero respect around here.
Ooo Touchy. No room for humor this morning I see.
So now Iraq was justified. When did that break the news?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
A lot of material was found. Read the UN reports. The rest was fed to the Kurds and Iranians with western authority.
you will never hear me say the invasion of Iraq was justified.
I did read the reports back then and yes some was found, some was not. there was alot unaccounted for. reasons for war? no. just stating the facts.
It what it looks like to me. Maybe I'm reading between the lines too hard.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
As for this, the statistics show you are more likely to be shot dead by a murderer or robber than ever even finding out about a person you know who was attacked by an Islamic fundamentalist.
yes you are.
Just now cos Jlew made it up as usual.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
yea I agree. and its nice we havent been attacked since 9/11 but until we leave Iraq and the Israel issue is worked out, the threat will remain. maybe more now then before 9/11
what did I make up? everytime you get backed into a corner you run and hide. and least roland will post a picture or something.