Can someone please remind me the negative side of marijuana?

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  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    surferdude wrote:
    The big downside to marijuana use is you are contributing to organized crime. Where I live there are routinely drive by shootings of grow-op houses, there are routinely heavily armed break and enters of grow-ops. This would not be so bad if the grow-ops weren't in residential areas, the idiots with the guns always got the right house and it wasn't contributing to organized crime.

    Much of the negative side to marijuana use would be addressed by leaglizing it but until then in using marijuana yuo are fully supporting and funding the above activities.

    To add to that. While it's illegal there is no regulation on the THC content. In Australia the 'hydro' has taken over and the THC content of this stuff is 20 times the amount that the old outdoor crops used to have. Smoke too much in one sitting and you'll achieve a whole new level of 'veging out'
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  • geishagrrl
    geishagrrl Posts: 130
    Short term memory loss..


    It stinks. I don't have a moral objection to people smoking dope, but man that shit stinks!!! Nearly makes me throw up.
    THANK YOU!! I hate the smell of pot. I also nearly vomit everytime I smell it. I can't stand it when it is smoked at concerts, even more so than cigarettes. It totally ruins the moment because I have to focus on not losing my lunch rather than the music. But what someone does at home is none of my concern as long as it isn't hurting anyone else.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    No Law = No Crime
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    and could save our countries millions, in the long run. I'm talking about clothing, sails, etc.

    The adult pot smoker who either grows or buys for recreational, at-home use, in my opinion does no harm to anyone, as long as he or she doesn't get behind the wheel and try to drive on the freeway.

    The benefits of medicinal marijuana have already been proven and some states already allow it.

    Speaking as a pot smoker and beer drinker, I can honestly say the beer does me more harm than the pot does.

    As far as Angelica's argument is concerned - it's a good argument when discussing people who have need of a crutch. For those who enjoy a nice relaxing evening at home with their loved one and the cats, I'd rather have my illegal pot than my legal Coors Light any night.
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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Derrick wrote:
    ...I'm always forgetting what the fuss is.

    :-)


    umm, memory loss !!

    Am I the only one who got this ???


































    Really ??
    Music is not a competetion.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Bu2 wrote:
    As far as Angelica's argument is concerned - it's a good argument when discussing people who have need of a crutch. For those who enjoy a nice relaxing evening at home with their loved one and the cats, I'd rather have my illegal pot than my legal Coors Light any night.
    Substance abuse includes alcohol as well. So, for me, the "alcohol is as bad or worse" argument is irrelevent.

    Also, for those who cannot enjoy a relaxing evening without using external substances that would be the definition of using a crutch.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Has a pile of info for this thread
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    angelica wrote:
    Substance abuse includes alcohol as well. So, for me, the "alcohol is as bad or worse" argument is irrelevent.

    Also, for those who cannot enjoy a relaxing evening without using external substances that would be the definition of using a crutch.

    I am happy with my crutches, and hope to wear them well.

    To each his own, chica.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    Substance abuse includes alcohol as well. So, for me, the "alcohol is as bad or worse" argument is irrelevent.

    Also, for those who cannot enjoy a relaxing evening without using external substances that would be the definition of using a crutch.

    It's the hedonistic imperitive. If it doesn't bother others, who cares?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Bu2 wrote:
    and could save our countries millions, in the long run. I'm talking about clothing, sails, etc.

    The adult pot smoker who either grows or buys for recreational, at-home use, in my opinion does no harm to anyone, as long as he or she doesn't get behind the wheel and try to drive on the freeway.

    The benefits of medicinal marijuana have already been proven and some states already allow it.

    Speaking as a pot smoker and beer drinker, I can honestly say the beer does me more harm than the pot does.

    As far as Angelica's argument is concerned - it's a good argument when discussing people who have need of a crutch. For those who enjoy a nice relaxing evening at home with their loved one and the cats, I'd rather have my illegal pot than my legal Coors Light any night.


    thank you bu.......i've tried all day to present my feelings and this sumed it up nicely.......and since i'm posting.....:o

    angelica wrote:
    Substance abuse includes alcohol as well. So, for me, the "alcohol is as bad or worse" argument is irrelevent.

    Also, for those who cannot enjoy a relaxing evening without using external substances that would be the definition of using a crutch.

    i, for one, am not saying i can't enjoy an evening without it, but since i smoke for the medicinal value as well, i'm gonna enjoy the recreational value...:)
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It's the hedonistic imperitive. If it doesn't bother others, who cares?
    This thread is about the negative side of marijuana. Also, the ramifications of numbing one's humanity are great and far-reaching in terms of loss of potential, whether or not individuals are unconscious of how great or far-reaching the effects are. Such effects insidiously affect all of our relationships, including our relationship with ourselves and the environment.
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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    Derrick wrote:
    ...I'm always forgetting what the fuss is.

    :-)
    There are none for normal people. Only controlling busy-bodies that don't have a life and feel a need to make everyone else's life miserable care. When did we lose the ability and freedom to police ourselves? I miss that. :)
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    cutback wrote:
    i, for one, am not saying i can't enjoy an evening without it, but since i smoke for the medicinal value as well, i'm gonna enjoy the recreational value...:)
    I fully support everyone making their own choices and gauging where they are for themselves at each step of their own journeys. Only we can judge for ourselves. And only we are accountable for our own actions.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    angelica wrote:
    I fully support everyone making their own choices and gauging where they are for themselves at each step of their own journeys. Only we can judge for ourselves. And only we are accountable for our own actions.


    phew.....ya kinda had me worried there....;) :D
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    angelica wrote:
    This thread is about the negative side of marijuana. Also, the ramifications of numbing one's humanity are great and far-reaching in terms of loss of potential, whether or not individuals are unconscious of how great or far-reaching the effects are. Such effects insidiously affect all of our relationships, including our relationship with ourselves and the environment.

    negative side of marijuana. The person who started this thread (Derrick, I believe), was asking to be reminded of the negative aspects of pot. Reading all the posts, Angelica, you seem to be the only one willing to remind us of them.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    cutback wrote:
    phew.....ya kinda had me worried there....;) :D
    I'm not sure if you've read my posts.......but I've been around the block with all kinds of questionable behaviours in my life! Never once at any time were my choices good or bad except in terms of how they affected me and others. No matter how "sick" or dysfunctional I have been, the most important thing was that I was able to be centered and listen to the feedback in my own life and learn for myself. That's what it's all about. And no matter what I've done, or what kinds of consequences I've gotten for my actions, the most important key was being able to listen to my own self nonjudgmentally. And to accept each and every aspect of myself, knowing I'm not perfect (which is still the case) and to trust my process, knowing it's about progress and not perfection. I support the same for others.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Bu2 wrote:
    negative side of marijuana. The person who started this thread (Derrick, I believe), was asking to be reminded of the negative aspects of pot. Reading all the posts, Angelica, you seem to be the only one willing to remind us of them.
    I will gladly post information on the negative aspects of substance abuse. I think it's important for people to make informed decisions. This goes especially in terms of substance abuses where a key issue is denial, and hiding from one's self the consequences of such substance abuse.
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    I sincerely wish you the best in your recovery and applaud you for being dry.

    I also sincerely wish that those of us who don't wish to be on the same boat don't get preached to when we're doing our own thing whilst still staying afloat.

    With respect,
    Bu
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    angelica wrote:
    I'm not sure if you've read my posts.......but I've been around the block with all kinds of questionable behaviours in my life! Never once at any time were my choices good or bad except in terms of how they affected me and others. No matter how "sick" or dysfunctional I have been, the most important thing was that I was able to be centered and listen to the feedback in my own life and learn for myself. That's what it's all about. And no matter what I've done, or what kinds of consequences I've gotten for my actions, the most important key was being able to listen to my own self nonjudgmentally. And to accept each and every aspect of myself, knowing I'm not perfect (which is still the case) and to trust my process, knowing it's about progress and not perfection. I support the same for others.


    no i knew all this.....i just misread your posts in this thread.....which is why i commented....i think it has something to do with the pit's newest poster....i think that poster's extreme, closeminded attitude has colored my world somewhat......;) :D
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Bu2 wrote:
    I sincerely wish you the best in your recovery and applaud you for being dry.

    I also sincerely wish that those of us who don't wish to be on the same boat don't get preached to when we're doing our own thing.

    With respect,
    Bu
    On a message board, we're going to hear all kinds of views/opinions/information. I'm confident that we fellow message boarders are able to handle that.
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