Videos of attack on Pentagon

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    Can't be a plane. I don't see Herve Villechaize anywhere on those
    videos.
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  • nobody wrote:
    :):):)
    you and the word research obviously don't go together well...

    m.


    Really how so?

    because I didn't fall over for your usless videos showing nothing?

    This all feels like meeting someone that knows nothing about 9/11 from like 6 years ago...but has lots of questions, and even more pre-conceived opinions..
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    That's the worst example of video, I have ever seen.

    You can't really see anything except an explosion and some blurry thing for a nano-second.

    Surely there are much better videos of the "plane" hitting the pentagon.

    Surely the government will release them, soon.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    I've replied to this so many times. Your questions are just bullshit. You ask the most specific things that no one here can really answer. The whole point of 9/11 is that no one knows exactly what happened. I'm not asking you to disprove anything. In fact, my whole point from the beginning is that NOTHING has been proven yet. Meaning the ACTUAL story you're "sticking with" is bullshit. Just like you question all other theories, that's what everyone else here is doing. Questioning the "actual" story and events of what happened on 9/11. In many ways, we're all alike.


    says who? you? how the fuck would you know? All you base your opinions on is history. guess what, the world is different ever since the 1800s or the 1900s. ever heard of globalization? it changed a lot.


    the world is also different from 1950...

    globalization actually started way before 1900...but you wouldn't know...cause all you do is professional research...

    globalisation actually is the thing I mentioned in regards to the US
    in fact you should begin to realize that contrary to your believe other countries actually have a huge influence on the US...globalisation didn't strengthen the US...at best it could stabilize it's influence...

    m.
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  • THIS WAS REPORTED ON BY CNN EVEN!
    watch here.

    Of course,
    its probably all fake.
    Some Indian Reporter must have just had a hard on for smearing Pakistan.

    Give me a fucking break!

    WATCH THIS BEFORE GOING FURTHER, NOBODY!

    ahem.
    Nobody.
    Quit side tracking the debate.
    GET BACK TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENT AND PAY ATTENTION!

    YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE ISI, MAHMOUD AHMED, AND FINANCING?

    WATCH THAT 10 MINUTE CLIP AND LEARN SOMETHING!
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    you win...
    I am all sad now, that I couldn't win the argument against you...
    that's obviously also the reason i didn't adress, those points made...you are absolutely right on that, and there was so much reason to bring this point up...just underscores the interest you have in really discussing something...not just state your points over and over again...I did so too of course...cause nonody would actually ansmer my freakin questions and just post a bunch of their own...
    if this is really how you want to engange life...go ahead...
    grandpa speech over...

    m.
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    ahem.
    Nobody.
    Quit side tracking the debate.
    GET BACK TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENT AND PAY ATTENTION!

    YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE ISI, MAHMOUD AHMED, AND FINANCING?

    WATCH THAT 10 MINUTE CLIP AND LEARN SOMETHING!

    I never made an argument in the first place...

    !!!!!!I posted a link to something that someone claimed didn't exist!!!!!!

    you are the ones who turn this into yet another pointless discussion thread...

    I was just afraid that link would get buried in the other post...is all...really
    I am not up to debating you guys...cause you are right...and I am wrong...okay...now go to sleep kiddies...

    m.
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  • nobody wrote:
    I never made an argument in the first place...

    !!!!!!I posted a link to something that someone claimed didn't exist!!!!!!

    you are the ones who turn this into yet another pointless discussion thread...

    I was just afraid that link would get buried in the other post...is all...really
    I am not up to debating you guys...cause you are right...and I am wrong...okay...now go to sleep kiddies...

    m.

    POST #9: You attempted to refute the claim that Ahmed had ordered a wire transfer. The link and article you provided as rebuttal was LESS THAN SATISFACTORY.

    NOW YOU ARE AVOIDING THE ARGUMENT ENTIRELY.

    You sir, are disingenuous.
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  • release the videos across the street that were confiscated mere minutes after impact.

    At the pentagon that day it wasn't...." holy crap what was that??!?!"

    it was...."yeah...hurry up go get the videos from across the street....now! "

    Immediately confiscated. never been released.

    still classified...

    shitty investigation....
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    nobody wrote:
    you win...
    I am all sad now, that I couldn't win the argument against you...
    that's obviously also the reason i didn't adress, those points made...you are absolutely right on that, and there was so much reason to bring this point up...just underscores the interest you have in really discussing something...not just state your points over and over again...I did so too of course...cause nonody would actually ansmer my freakin questions and just post a bunch of their own...
    if this is really how you want to engange life...go ahead...
    grandpa speech over...

    m.
    what a way to back out of a debate.
  • _outlaw wrote:
    what a way to back out of a debate.

    in all "fairness" he did explicitly state in his OP that he was NOT interested in starting any sort of discussion (scholarly or otherwise).

    His sole, and explicitly stated purpose, was to come here, stir up a bunch of shit, and post some half-true statement regarding old news.

    To mislead people in to thinking "conspiracy theorists" are idiots, and to not have to be accountable to back up his claims, it seems, was his SOLE purpose here.
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  • To mislead people in to thinking "conspiracy theorists" are idiots, and to not have to be accountable to back up his claims, it seems, was his SOLE purpose here.

    BINGO....

    saw through this reality yesterday.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    what a way to back out of a debate.

    I knew you would say that:)
    that's why I wrote it:)
    so that you can feel even more like the winner and also present yourself to others and such...and you are...really...you live on the greatest country in the world...that can only be hurt if it lets it happen, or if it doesn it itself...it's planet america after all...international bankers...they are american bankers yes...

    I told you you win...
    and now you really don't have to make another comment...
    obviously you destroyed me here...and I'm sad...
    really...what a way to back out of a debate...

    m.
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    fuck Posts: 4,069
    nobody wrote:
    I knew you would say that:)
    that's why I wrote it:)
    so that you can feel even more like the winner and also present yourself to others and such...and you are...really...you live on the greatest country in the world...that can only be hurt if it lets it happen, or if it doesn it itself...it's planet america after all...international bankers...they are american bankers yes...

    I told you you win...
    and now you really don't have to make another comment...
    obviously you destroyed me here...and I'm sad...
    really...what a way to back out of a debate...
    haha, no one here cares about winning. When interesting points are brought up, I acknowledge it, and many times I don't even know how to answer lots of questions. This is, after all, a discussion.

    And why do you keep piecing 9/11 inside job=No one can ever hurt US except the US.

    Just because 9/11 has too many unanswered questions that point towards something much bigger, doesn't mean we are trying to say anything like that...
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Holy shit!

    How does anyone win this topic of discussion?

    Winning?

    good god.

    The very concept of " people........us only caring about winning a debate " regarding this subject matter is a complete and shameful disrespect to all the people who were murdered on 9/11.

    It's out of respect for them, for the honor and integrity of the people of this country; that 9/11 requires a thorough. unbiased and uncorrupted investigation. It 's not about winning. It's about trying to learn what really happened, how it happened, who was involved and hopefully we all learn something from it.

    Obviously our government learned NOTHING from it.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    haha, no one here cares about winning. When interesting points are brought up, I acknowledge it, and many times I don't even know how to answer lots of questions. This is, after all, a discussion.

    And why do you keep piecing 9/11 inside job=No one can ever hurt US except the US.

    Just because 9/11 has too many unanswered questions that point towards something much bigger, doesn't mean we are trying to say anything like that...

    actually...if you read the first 3 posts of the thread I started yesterday...I really had a sincere aim...I put myself in your shoes and tried to figure out this questions...and which I deem essential...and I wanted to keep it simply focused on that question...and if you have a look at the first 3 or 4 pages of the thread...and be fair...I really try my best to moderate it calmly...but if people come in only to disqualify my intention...and start making some bollocks arguments...well, then I conclude they just want to be right...

    I really have other things to do...
    and if you are honest...and it's not an insult...many people just lack basic reasoning skills...
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  • NMyTree wrote:
    Holy shit!

    How does anyone win this topic of discussion?

    Winning?

    good god.

    The very concept of " people........us only caring about winning a debate " regarding this subject matter is a complete and shameful disrespect to all the people who were murdered on 9/11.

    It's out of respect for them, for the honor and integrity of the people of this country; that 9/11 requires a thorough. unbiased and uncorrupted investigation. It 's not about winning. It's about trying to learn what really happened, how it happened, who was involved and hopefully we all learn something from it.

    Obviously our government learned NOTHING from it.

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  • nobody wrote:
    and if you are honest...and it's not an insult...many people just lack basic reasoning skills...

    yeah. like you.
    you never got back to me on your own damn counter-argument.

    shameful.
    like nmytree said, this is about getting to the truth.
    you clearly aren't interested in that.
    you present your side, and then run away.

    if YOU were actualy interested in the truth, and not simply WINING, you would investigate what others put before you, and RESPOND ON TOPIC!
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  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    I think the white blurb ATOMIZED before it hit the building. ;)
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    yeah. like you.
    you never got back to me on your own damn counter-argument.

    shameful.
    like nmytree said, this is about getting to the truth.
    you clearly aren't interested in that.
    you present your side, and then run away.

    if YOU were actualy interested in the truth, and not simply WINING, you would investigate what others put before you, and RESPOND ON TOPIC!

    thank you...I will take your advice and be a better person...
    so long...
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