Videos of attack on Pentagon
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I don't know if it has been posted before put here is a link to two (now four) videos that show the 911 attack on the Pentagon:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml
check out Video 2 at about 20sec...for example...
EDIT: and here are 2 additional videos from a nearby gas station and hotel
http://www.flight77.info/
(thanks to g under p for the link)
just posting because people still claim the government forcefully withholds those videos...believing false claims by consp. theorists...
it's not intended to start a discussion...
it's just to provide this link...
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml
check out Video 2 at about 20sec...for example...
EDIT: and here are 2 additional videos from a nearby gas station and hotel
http://www.flight77.info/
(thanks to g under p for the link)
just posting because people still claim the government forcefully withholds those videos...believing false claims by consp. theorists...
it's not intended to start a discussion...
it's just to provide this link...
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Godwin's Law:
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
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for some it's a white blurb...for some it's the fastest fuckin plane ever...;)
you know...when you see planes from a close distance...they look a bit faster as when they fly in the sky...
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"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
I know...it could be Darth Vader...
I am just here to disprove people claiming that there are NO videos because the government is holding them back...while infact those videos are released for a long time...it's not NEWS...
is that something you can live with...
still, where did the people in the plane go, if it's no plane???
have they been killed somewhere else?
but sorry...I don't want to go on...
I am officially out of this thread...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
a. its not video.
its a timelapse STILL camera from a guard tower.
b. its the ONLY thing that has been released by the government,
while true video from at least 3 nearby businesses was confiscated IMMEDIATELY by the FBI.
c. the physical evidence on 911 is ALL a distraction from the real questions.
Why was the guy who admittedly wired $100,000 to Mohammed Attah sitting in a closed door meeting with DOD official on 9/10 and 9/11 proper !?!
Why was the 911 investigation stone walled. Why did Bush NOT WANT AN INVESTIGATION?
Why did they not testify under oath?
Why did NUMEROUS FBI agents state that they were blocked in their efforts before 9/11? Why did one go so far as to SUE THE GOVERNMENT for this !?!
Why do at least 9 high ranking former CIA officials say this was an inside job? Along with many foreign defense and public officials?
HOW DID THE FBI ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF SUSPECTED TERRORISTS WHILE THE EVENTS WERE STILL OCCURING !?!'
Seriously? WTF !??! THEY ALREADY KNEW !?!
etc etc etc etc etc ...
If I opened it now would you not understand?
cmon this is getting laughable...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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here are my pathetic arguments for you...
"still, where did the people in the plane go, if it's no plane???
have they been killed somewhere else?"
and since you won't even bother to have a look at the website I have to do it like anybody else here...spoon-feed everyone information because they are to fuckin lazy to do it themselves
http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-two/
" * No inquiry was ever made as to why General Ahmed of Pakistan had $100,000 wired to Mohammad Atta
* On the morning of September 11th, US government officials were having breakfast with Ahmed in Washington D.C.
General Ahmed was formally the head of the Inter-Services Intelligence in Pakistan[1]. The film alleges that General Ahmed wired $100,000 to Mohammad Atta. I went to try and track this down, but I only found such an accusation listed on other conspiracy sites. I finally found the original source on The Times of India web site[2]. I cannot find any other substantial source on the subject. Due to the fact that it was written by an Indian, I have to doubt the article's truthfulness even more, considering there is a long standing animosity between Indians and Pakistanis. At this time, no Wikipedia articles mention such a transaction except the General Ahmed article[3]. Several conspiracy sites say that the money was given on September 10, 2001. I just have to wonder why someone that is committing suicide the next day would need $100,000. So, I cannot definitively confirm or deny such an accusation at this time, but if I had to make a decision, I would say that it probably just did not happen.
It was also hard to find information on a breakfast between General Ahmad and "government officials". I finally tracked down a few places, nearly all were known tabloids that also said General Ahmed was also Mohammad Atta's bagman, but we already discussed that. It may have taken a while but I did find an article from the Washington Post about such a breakfast taking place[4], but again the claims seem a bit iffy, considering there were absolutely no news sources at the time that report such a breakfast taking place, only within the next year did such accusations surface -- and overall it seems a bit illogical, why would the organizers of the most massive conspiracy to cover up the largest terrorist attack in history, meet for breakfast on the morning before it happened, you would think they would avoid each other."
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
A few things I find interesting about these videos.
A couple of years ago, when all the hooplah was made about the government FINALLY releasing pentagon footage of the plane crashing into the building, I thought great. Something new and definitive. When that "new" footage was actually released though, it was exactly the same footage I'd seen linked up on Alex Jones website and various others MONTHS before. It wasn't new at all.
I used to have a link in my fave's to the original CNN broadcast of that footage, released as "new" footage by the pentagon. It was really interesting to see that the time stamp on the original broadcast was wrong. It had 9/12/01 on it, at 17.30 in the afternoon. If my memory serves me correctly, the 911 attacks happened on, well, 9/11. Within a few days though, the footage on the CNN website was changed, and the time stamp removed altogether.
The original CNN footage, also showed that 3 frames were missing from the video. They displayed the video, with each frame labeled and numbered along the bottom of the picture, and it leaped from frame 5 to frame 8 or something like that. I wish I could find the original link I had.
Lastly, the accusations that the government is with-holding the pentagon videos does not relate to this footage. It relates to the traffic camera footage,the hotel rooftop footage and the service station surveillance footage that were all confiscated immediately after the attacks. None of these videos have ever been released, and from the location of the cameras, they would show one way or another what hit the pentagon. Surely, if they want to lay these conspiracy theories to rest, they would release these tapes and prove once and for all that it was in fact a plane.
I think these two videos raise more questions than they answer, and while they don't prove it wasn't a plane, they don't seem to prove it was either. What I find absurd, is that there weren't dozens of these videos in probably one of the most secure buildings in the world.
I am glad you are entertainined...
that's what it's all about...
you people live in denial...of course...that it only my opinion...
I thought you were all about asking questions and shit...
all I get here when I ask questions are replies like yours...or some vague evasive shit...
my questions aren't answered by you asking me other questions...
get a grip...
there is more to the world than the US...you know...it's not behind everything...
as I said elsewhere...it is a main contributor...but it doesn't run the show...
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"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
yeah right.... suuuure
I would bet the gas station footage across the street was more legible that the official. In fact everything official so far regarding 9/11 has been total crap.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Look.
I'm glad you're playing Mr. Skeptic, but this is getting ridiculous.
You have now quoted as your disproof an "article" that, as its ONLY rebuttal, attempts to wash ALL INDIANS as bad journalists.
WTF?
Further,
this "sketchy report" was deemed valid enough to be PICKED UP ON BY THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORP ITSELF.
At least TWO SEPERATE REPORTERS attempted to ask Bush or the White House Press Secretary about this and got NO VALID ANSWER in response!
One of the guys even AKSED TWICE!
it is actually in Loose Change, i believe.
SO that is your disproof?
you may as well have posted:
"Your source is more sketchy than my source"
???
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Respond to drifing's staments and facts Give it a try.
You're out of your league on this one.
we've been researching this for years...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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says who? you? how the fuck would you know? All you base your opinions on is history. guess what, the world is different ever since the 1800s or the 1900s. ever heard of globalization? it changed a lot.
as you are in possesion of the sole truth...
I really hope no CIA agent is out to get you for stating all those "obvious" things...that are so convincing...only the apathic public doesn't want to realize...get a life...
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
watch here.
Of course,
its probably all fake.
Some Indian Reporter must have just had a hard on for smearing Pakistan.
Give me a fucking break!
WATCH THIS BEFORE GOING FURTHER, NOBODY!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I see you have nothing except inner fantasy.
let me know when you have something.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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you and the word research obviously don't go together well...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
also, nice job avoiding drifting's comments.
videos.
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Really how so?
because I didn't fall over for your usless videos showing nothing?
This all feels like meeting someone that knows nothing about 9/11 from like 6 years ago...but has lots of questions, and even more pre-conceived opinions..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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You can't really see anything except an explosion and some blurry thing for a nano-second.
Surely there are much better videos of the "plane" hitting the pentagon.
Surely the government will release them, soon.
the world is also different from 1950...
globalization actually started way before 1900...but you wouldn't know...cause all you do is professional research...
globalisation actually is the thing I mentioned in regards to the US
in fact you should begin to realize that contrary to your believe other countries actually have a huge influence on the US...globalisation didn't strengthen the US...at best it could stabilize it's influence...
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"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
ahem.
Nobody.
Quit side tracking the debate.
GET BACK TO YOUR OWN ARGUMENT AND PAY ATTENTION!
YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE ISI, MAHMOUD AHMED, AND FINANCING?
WATCH THAT 10 MINUTE CLIP AND LEARN SOMETHING!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I am all sad now, that I couldn't win the argument against you...
that's obviously also the reason i didn't adress, those points made...you are absolutely right on that, and there was so much reason to bring this point up...just underscores the interest you have in really discussing something...not just state your points over and over again...I did so too of course...cause nonody would actually ansmer my freakin questions and just post a bunch of their own...
if this is really how you want to engange life...go ahead...
grandpa speech over...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
I never made an argument in the first place...
!!!!!!I posted a link to something that someone claimed didn't exist!!!!!!
you are the ones who turn this into yet another pointless discussion thread...
I was just afraid that link would get buried in the other post...is all...really
I am not up to debating you guys...cause you are right...and I am wrong...okay...now go to sleep kiddies...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
POST #9: You attempted to refute the claim that Ahmed had ordered a wire transfer. The link and article you provided as rebuttal was LESS THAN SATISFACTORY.
NOW YOU ARE AVOIDING THE ARGUMENT ENTIRELY.
You sir, are disingenuous.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
At the pentagon that day it wasn't...." holy crap what was that??!?!"
it was...."yeah...hurry up go get the videos from across the street....now! "
Immediately confiscated. never been released.
still classified...
shitty investigation....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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