gay people raising children

do you know what i mean?

rightondude wrote:

I work and know several gay people and I like them very much as friends.

Do they know you believe them to be brain damaged?

jeffbr wrote:

Do they know you believe them to be brain damaged?

Would you tell someone sick they're going to die?

They would think some things about me as well I'm sure... does it really matter?

If we get off our high horse as humans, it's pretty simple. Homosexuality is a dead end (thank you dude). Now you are going to give me shit here, but it is the same as a mule. It cannot reproduce, so it is a bi-product of a donkey and a horse. Well to get back to the original thread, we have families that face a delima. They are not following the rules of nature, but of present day society. Adoption, artificial insemination, or just having some one "plant" their seed. What path do these families take in the long run?? Mother nature is going to have the final say. This is a lifestyle that can survive and prosper in the short term, but has no real future. No matter how much love and guidance you provide for these young families, it just cannot survive.
I'm on the fence on this whole issue. I'm big on family and providing youth with a way to better themselves and be a proud individual. It means a better chance for an education and an understanding of the world around them before we cut them loose. But they are going to have to see the truth that is right in front of them. They come from an unconventional family and way of life that really has no future. It can be carried on within certain communities, but when that support dries up and the homosexuality trend shifts, what happens. Nature is not on their side.

Deni wrote:

If we lived in a world where more than 7-10% of the population was gay and the only way to make babies was by having male/female sexual intercourse then I would say you were right... But we don't live in that world. There are 7 billion people on the planet and if even 10% of them are gay that leaves 6 billion people fully prepared to propagate the species. We are not going to go extinct anytime soon. So don't worry about that. As for the other... I have friends who are lesbian and though the magic of in vitro they have triplets. So -- so much for that. lol

Peace and Love,
Deni

yeah.....what this guy/or girl says.

jeffbr wrote:

Surprising how homophobic some seemingly liberal people on this board can be. Before this thread continues to devolve and expose latent homosexual fears of posters, how about putting it back on track.

I think the ideal is 1 father and 1 mother. Each generally brings something different to the raising of the child. But that doesn't mean that it is the best thing in every instance. I've seen plenty of incapable, incompetent 1 mother/1 father families. I've seen some wonderful single parent families even though that may not be ideal. I've seen some wonderful homosexual/homosexual parent families even though that may not be ideal.

Would you anti-homosexual-parent posters rather have those children going through a foster care system as wards of the state, or would you rather see them given a loving home with caring parents who just happen to be same sex?

Thank you! I had almost given up all hope for this board until I got to your post

Deni wrote:

If we lived in a world where more than 7-10% of the population was gay and the only way to make babies was by having male/female sexual intercourse then I would say you were right... But we don't live in that world. There are 7 billion people on the planet and if even 10% of them are gay that leaves 6 billion people fully prepared to propagate the species. We are not going to go extinct anytime soon. So don't worry about that. As for the other... I have friends who are lesbian and though the magic of in vitro they have triplets. So -- so much for that. lol

Peace and Love,
Deni

In vitro is not magic, but science and cash. Here is your chance to bash....I see it as selfish and wrong that a procedure like In vitro is used to give same sex couples a chance to dance around the rules and purchase a child from a test tube. Adoption could help out thousands of children who have no choice. If a loving home is what they are trying to provide, spend that cash on someone who needs a home now.

Meatwagon wrote:

In vitro is not magic, but science and cash. Here is your chance to bash....I see it as selfish and wrong that a procedure like In vitro is used to give same sex couples a chance to dance around the rules and purchase a child from a test tube. Adoption could help out thousands of children who have no choice. If a loving home is what they are trying to provide, spend that cash on someone who needs a home now.

Science only explains HOW something works. Magic explains WHY it works. lol Besides, many gay couples do adopt. By the way, that was a kickass poem you had going there for a minute.

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

wow.

wanna nuke iran and lynch a black man while we're at it?

how bout those women voting.. gotta do away with that.

and fuck the native americans of course.. savages..



it only seems wrong because people (ESPECIALLY IN THE US FOR SOME GOD FORSAKEN REASON) see homosexuality like this fucker.

there's nothing wrong with it, or them raising kids.






p.s.

i know we're trying to be nicer to eachother round here, but goddamn man, you are a biggoted motherfucker.

ill see you in hell.

this was a reasonable debate untill you added your retarded comments.

You dont have to be a warmongering racist to be consider homosexuality unnatural. If you find acceptable then thats cool, but some people dont, but the majority of those that dont agree with it, dont actually give a fuck about gay people.

decides2dream wrote:

personally, i think having 2 parents who love you and support you is all that is important. there are plenty of children with heterosexual homes, NOT getting the love and support they need...why would one's sexual orientation determine one to be 'better' than the other in raising a child?

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O.k. But here's the thing as I see it. You can't validate a, perhaps, negative situation by comparing it to a worse situation. My wife is a public elementary school teacher and I used to be the same. It is horrendous the awful stories of neglect and abuse (both physical and psychological) she brings home nearly everday, every year, at the hands of traditional, heterosexual parents. Its terrible. It used to make me cry. Literally. I've kinda gotten used to it, which is a sad thing. HORRIBLE stuff.
Does that automatically make homosexual parents an ideal thing? No. Of course two loving caregivers would be better than two neglectful abusive ones. No argument there. But, a loving mommy and a loving daddy are the ideal. Homosexual parents are just not ideal. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I'm not hateful, homophobic, or anything like that. I just don't think its a good situation, just because it might be better than a WORSE situation.