wow NOT guilty in the sean bell case

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  • VivaPalestina
    VivaPalestina Posts: 225
    I know one of the officers (31 shots guy) and the dude is undoubtedly a racist.
  • macci
    macci Posts: 1,057
    Man, it's just sad all around - imagine your fiance is shot dead the morning of the wedding no less - then no vindication (not that it would bring him back, but still).......I really feel for the victim's fiance & parents.
    My lips are shaking.......
  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    purrmo wrote:
    I know one of the officers (31 shots guy) and the dude is undoubtedly a racist.
    How well do you know him? I'm curious to know how you know he is a racist. I'm not doubting you at all, I'd just like to get your perspective.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    purrmo wrote:
    I know one of the officers (31 shots guy) and the dude is undoubtedly a racist.

    well he will deal with god when the time comes
  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    Is anybody actually surprised when Al Sharpton jumps behind a case like this? He's like a one trick pony at this point. Too bad he wasn't at the strip club that night...
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • VivaPalestina
    VivaPalestina Posts: 225
    adam42381 wrote:
    How well do you know him? I'm curious to know how you know he is a racist. I'm not doubting you at all, I'd just like to get your perspective.

    I went to school with 31 shots. His sister (only sibling) said something along the lines of when talking about the whole situation “you don’t know these people” When she said “these” she meant black people. Just the whole conversation made me realize very clearly that she and her bro are racist.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    3 nypd officers shot a black man 50 x or so
    they thought he and his friends had a gun
    it was the guy's bachelor party
    they were leaving a strip club and the officers were undercover
    lots more to the case

    they thought he and his friends had a gun?
    50 shots? is that not overkill?
    oh hang on... the vic was black? well then totally justified. :rolleyes:
    what a load of bullshit.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    3 nypd officers shot a black man 50 x or so
    they thought he and his friends had a gun
    it was the guy's bachelor party
    they were leaving a strip club and the officers were undercover
    lots more to the case
    the cops had been drinking also, I believe?

    I do'nt know I don't think it's as explosive as the Rodney King verdict, maybe it's just me? Not to minimize it or anything. You're not surprised at the acquittal, are you?
    "...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    41 Shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots
    41 shots....
    and we'll take that ride
    'cross this bloody river
    to the other side
    41 shots... cut through the night
    You're kneeling over his body in the vestibule
    Praying for his life

    Is it a gun, is it a knife
    Is it a wallet, this is your life
    It ain't no secret
    It ain't no secret
    No secret my friend
    You can get killed just for living
    In your American skin

    41 shots
    Lena gets her son ready for school
    She says "on these streets, Charles
    You've got to understand the rules
    If an officer stops you
    Promise you'll always be polite,
    that you'll never ever run away
    Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"

    Is it a gun, is it a knife
    Is it a wallet, this is your life
    It ain't no secret
    It ain't no secret
    No secret my friend
    You can get killed just for living
    In your American skin

    Is it a gun, is it a knife
    Is it in your heart, is it in your eyes
    It ain't no secret

    41 shots... and we'll take that ride
    'Cross this bloody river
    To the other side
    41 shots... got my boots caked in this mud
    We're baptized in these waters and in each other's blood

    Is it a gun, is it a knife
    Is it a wallet, this is your life
    It ain't no secret
    It ain't no secret
    No secret my friend
    You can get killed just for living
    In your American skin


    we've all heard this story before,....
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    catefrances wrote:
    they thought he and his friends had a gun?
    50 shots? is that not overkill?
    oh hang on... the vic was black? well then totally justified. :rolleyes:
    what a load
    there's more to it than that Cate
    "...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    41 Shots




    we've all heard this story before,....

    thanks bruce. :)
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Allie wrote:
    there's more to it than that Cate

    there always is allie, there always is.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    catefrances wrote:
    there always is allie, there always is.
    I know
    I mean that's it in a nutshell
    it was his wedding day
    and the cops were undercover and allegedly drinking
    and they 'claimed' they heard the young man say, I think either he had a gun or he told someone to go get a gun or something of that nature

    the case was not heard by a jury, it was heard by a judge

    there were that many shots fired however :eek:
    "...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    catefrances wrote:
    they thought he and his friends had a gun?
    50 shots? is that not overkill?
    oh hang on... the vic was black? well then totally justified. :rolleyes:
    what a load of bullshit.


    2 of the shooting officers were black as well. That kinda fucked up Al Sharpton. You know he was hoping for 5 white cops when he heard the news. Why don't you tell me if you think 50 shots is overkill when someone is firing at YOU. Or at least you think someone is firing at YOU. And when the perp just tried to run over one of your fellow officers. There is absolutely no time to think, to try and evaluate the situation. Maybe the cops did no wrong, and maybe they did do wrong. But I don't think anyone, myself included, should try to judge them unless they've been in that exact situation
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    2 of the shooting officers were black as well. That kinda fucked up Al Sharpton. You know he was hoping for 5 white cops when he heard the news. Why don't you tell me if you think 50 shots is overkill when someone is firing at YOU. Or at least you think someone is firing at YOU. And when the perp just tried to run over one of your fellow officers. There is absolutely no time to think, to try and evaluate the situation. Maybe the cops did no wrong, and maybe they did do wrong. But I don't think anyone, myself included, should try to judge them unless they've been in that exact situation

    i wasn't specifying the colour of the cops.
    okay then tell me then. who had guns? how many guns were opened up on the cops?
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    catefrances wrote:
    i wasn't specifying the colour of the cops.
    okay then tell me then. who had guns? how many guns were opened up on the cops?

    yea but the cops overheard the kids say something and then they were reaching around in the car

    im not saying they were right but in a situation like that i can understand a quick trigger finger

    again thats alot of shots but when u think you're gonna get run down its not that hard to believe
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    yea but the cops overheard the kids say something and then they were reaching around in the car

    im not saying they were right but in a situation like that i can understand a quick trigger finger

    again thats alot of shots but when u think you're gonna get run down its not that hard to believe


    50 shots? 50 shots?

    im thinking if im gonna get run down im not standing there waiting for it. im thinking ill take myself out of the 'line of fire' so to speak.
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    catefrances wrote:
    50 shots? 50 shots?

    im thinking if im gonna get run down im not standing there waiting for it. im thinking ill take myself out of the 'line of fire' so to speak.


    its hard to say this and that unless you or i were in a similar situation

    personally i would hold the trigger till my clip was empty,,then again im not a cop
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    catefrances wrote:
    i wasn't specifying the colour of the cops.
    okay then tell me then. who had guns? how many guns were opened up on the cops?

    so you're saying the cops should have huddled up, and discussed whether or not the perps had guns? 9 out of 10 times, they'd all be dead. This si true heat of the moment stuff. You have a millisecond to decide what to do. The wrong decision, and you could end up dead. Ask the families of the 2 undercover cops who got in a car to make a gun deal, and got killed.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    so you're saying the cops should have huddled up, and discussed whether or not the perps had guns? 9 out of 10 times, they'd all be dead. This si true heat of the moment stuff. You have a millisecond to decide what to do. The wrong decision, and you could end up dead. Ask the families of the 2 undercover cops who got in a car to make a gun deal, and got killed.

    they got in a car to make a gun deal? okay that just shows a lack of forethought to begin with.

    heat of the moment? did they know the guys had guns? did the guys even have guns? was this a case of pre-emptive striking just in case?

    im gonna admit i have a very difficult time dealing with gun culture. i have an even more difficult time with people using supposition to validate their actions.
    can someone please tell me about this case?
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