Illegal Aliens Murder 15 year old girl

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    you have to be fucking kidding me. GO READ MY POSTS AGAIN. or dont, I dont care. but you are so far off its ridiculous. and I'm offended you just typed this fucking garbage.
    well, maybe i read into them wrong but let me quote you.... when speaking about the relevance, or irrelevance, of the two killers being illegal immigrants you said this,
    the point is that he shouldnt even be here had immigration laws worked, or tougher border control.
    and also
    The fact that they are here illegaly is relevant.
    (refer to your first post).... either i'm reading it wrong and i did spew a load of garbage, or maybe you're the one spewing the garbage.
    immigration isnt a problem. illegal immigration is. come here legally, pay taxes, dont break the laws, and we'll all set. got it fucko?
    who's fucko, dickwod?

    i meant illegal immigration, not immigration. and i've got nothing against implementing laws on ILLEGAL immigrants. get it dickwod?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • JamMastaE wrote:
    look,immigrants are the life blood of this country! all of our families came over here from somewhere else.if you go through the motions legally,learn ENGLISH and contribute to society,GREAT.but don't come here disrespectfully and say your taking over.are all Mexicans like this?no.are there a lot that are?yes.
    also I'm not just talking about Mexicans.illegal Chinese,Arabs and Europeans are all coming across the border too!
    neither am i just speaking about mexicans alone....

    maybe you just gotta be careful when you address these issues with illegal immigrants cause you could easily offend anybody.

    like i've said before, my father came here illegally but he doesn't oppose the laws they implement on the immigrants. he wouldn't even bring mexicans here illegally... he never has. all my relatives from mexico cross the border many times with legal passcards. and they always visit us in houston, san antonio or austin... wherever we'll be. it's good to know and much easier to go about your life that there are normal and good people just like you and me who live on other sides of the world.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Posts: 10,118
    well, maybe i read into them wrong but let me quote you.... when speaking about the relevance, or irrelevance, of the two killers being illegal immigrants you said this, and also (refer to your first post).... either i'm reading it wrong and i did spew a load of garbage, or maybe you're the one spewing the garbage.

    who's fucko, dickwod?

    i meant illegal immigration, not immigration. and i've got nothing against implementing laws on ILLEGAL immigrants. get it dickwod?

    so based on the statements you quote above you come to the conclusion that....
    actually, yes, i have.... most of 'em revolve around the idea that immigrants are rapists and murderers.


    maybe now you can see where I got pissed off. im done with your bullshit. too bad you and your dad werent deported when you came here illegally.
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    too bad you and your dad werent deported when you came here illegally.


    dude,come on.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • Posts: 10,118
    JamMastaE wrote:
    dude,come on.

    I may be out of line but I dont care. to suggest I think all immigrants are rapists and murders pisses me off to no end.
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    JamMastaE wrote:
    dude,come on.

    yeah, below the belt. however i think his statement of your ideas and what they revolve around is completely false.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    so based on the statements you quote above you come to the conclusion that....




    maybe now you can see where I got pissed off. im done with your bullshit. too bad you and your dad werent deported when you came here illegally.
    you're a simple-minded little being aren't you? and a bit sensitive too. :p:p:p;)

    based on your quotes that go along the lines of "the fact that these two murderers are illegal is relevant" and "they should've implemented stronger laws and tougher border patroling so we wouldn't have immigrants killing americans" makes it sound like you're saying that illegal immigrants will come over to the US and start killing americans. or like i said, i'm willing to admit that i read them wrong. but being that you're brain doesn't like to function properly and you're a bit on the emotional side we can't communicate on the same level and clear some issues we might have with each other.

    btw, i was born in caldwell, idaho. and please don't offend my dad like that. he's a good man and you'd fall in love with him if you'd ever meet him. besides, he's not the one calling you names, is he?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I may be out of line but I dont care. to suggest I think all immigrants are rapists and murders pisses me off to no end.
    then my interpretations of you were right afterall????

    tell me then, why hasn't my father killed or raped anybody?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Posts: 10,118
    you're a simple-minded little being aren't you? and a bit sensitive too. :p:p:p;)

    based on your quotes that go along the lines of "the fact that these two murderers are illegal is relevant" and "they should've implemented stronger laws and tougher border patroling so we wouldn't have immigrants killing americans" makes it sound like you're saying that illegal immigrants will come over to the US and start killing americans. or like i said, i'm willing to admit that i read them wrong. but being that you're brain doesn't like to function properly and you're a bit on the emotional side we can't communicate on the same level and clear some issues we might have with each other.

    btw, i was born in caldwell, idaho. and please don't offend my dad like that. he's a good man and you'd fall in love with him if you'd ever meet him. besides, he's not the one calling you names, is he?

    ok I apologize. but your comment really pissed me off. I am a big supporter of immigrants coming to this country and becoming citizens and living out their dreams.

    I want a tough border and laws in place for people to come here. we cant have open borders. people have to pay taxes and have some type of documentation that they exist within american borders.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I want a tough border and laws in place for people to come here. we cant have open borders. people have to pay taxes and have some type of documentation that they exist within american borders.
    i got nothing against this
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Posts: 10,118
    then my interpretations of you were right afterall????

    tell me then, why hasn't my father killed or raped anybody?

    what the fuck are you talking about. again, you must be reading it wrong.

    it pisses me off that you suggest I THINK all immigrants are rapists and murderers.

    are you not understanding that?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    what the fuck are you talking about. again, you must be reading it wrong.

    it pisses me off that you suggest I THINK all immigrants are rapists and murderers.

    are you not understanding that?
    well take some writing lessons or something.... j/k
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • Posts: 18,095
    JamMastaE wrote:
    put your self in the mothers shoes that lost her daughter and you'd be whistling a different tune.you Irish can't even get along with EACH OTHER(Protestants and Catholics) and you're gonna try and preach to us?
    Wow, well the protestants (the ones who fight with the catholics that is :rolleyes: ) wouldn't really consider themselves Irish anyway... so there's THAT argument out the window :p
    JamMastaE wrote:
    and this is reality not ignorance or hatred.ignorance would be "let's round them up and kill them",i just wanna send them back to where they came from.
    in fact ms 13 is running rampant in this country they are a very violent gang known for drug running and murder.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51259


    MECHA is a racist organization that comes right out and says they wanna kill whites!!!

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm

    http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/archives/001012.html


    so i'm supposed to be some bleeding heart liberal pussy and lay down!! no fucking way!!
    You just wanna send them back eh? ah that's good of ya. And that's weird, the only American GANGS we hear about over here are the likes of the KKK and the skinheads who wanna kill everyone who's NOT white. So I guess the hispanics just need to equal it up a bit, would ya not think?

    Nobody said you're supposed to be a bleeding heart liberal pussy... I wasn't aware such a thing existed.

    'and lay down' why what are you doing that you can't lay down? :confused:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Posts: 18,095
    jlew24asu wrote:
    come on man, not the Indian reference. same as a hitler reference. it get you nowhere
    So yet again, we just ignore history and keep making the same mistakes over and over again and anyone who mentions past mistakes is put down?

    Thing I want to know is... what EXACTLY are you so afraid of? :confused:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Posts: 10,118
    So yet again, we just ignore history and keep making the same mistakes over and over again and anyone who mentions past mistakes is put down?

    Thing I want to know is... what EXACTLY are you so afraid of? :confused:

    how are we making the same mistakes?
  • Posts: 21,037
    Look, it's pretty simple: Americans need enemies. They're like sharks, in that if they stop feeding for an instant then they'll drown. It's bigotry that keeps the boat afloat, you see?
    Years of successful indoctrination have done the job of keeping people afraid, and of keeping the arms dealers happy.
    All this shit about a couple of immigrants who happened to have murdered someone is just another extension of the inability of people to see beyond the surface of things. The American people are largely a very emotional, easily manipulated, hateful bunch of knee jerk bumpkins. It is only a relatively young country afterall. I mean, they've had a few wake up calls - like Vietnam, for instance, although the myth of their defeat of Nazi Germany still looms large. On the one hand, they believe that they are an all powerful, all moralistic, force for good in the world. On the other hand, reality hovers over everything, and it's impossible for them to escape the fact that they are a country based on lies, fakery, self-deception, and hatred.
    Has anyone seen the movie 'Dogville'? I think it sums up a large percentage of Americans brilliantly. All this bile and hatred we see being spouted on this thread against 'the other', the 'foreign' person, the 'immigrant', stems from a, not insignificant, insecurity, and immaturity.
    It reminds me of my fellow classmates at primary school. I think it will take another 100 years at least for America to grow up. Either that or an all engulfing war, or ecological disaster.
    It really is a shame. A country with so much potential, subjected to, and so accepting of, so much skewered, one-eyed, shit, from so few racist money Nazis.
    George Washington and Walt Whitman will be puking in their graves.
  • Posts: 1,268
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Look, it's pretty simple: Americans need enemies. They're like sharks, in that if they stop feeding for an instant then they'll drown. It's bigotry that keeps the boat afloat, you see?
    Years of successful indoctrination have done the job of keeping people afraid, and of keeping the arms dealers happy.
    All this shit about a couple of immigrants who happened to have murdered someone is just another extension of the inability of people to see beyond the surface of things. The American people are largely a very emotional, easily manipulated, hateful bunch of knee jerk bumpkins. It is only a relatively young country afterall. I mean, they've had a few wake up calls - like Vietnam, for instance, although the myth of their defeat of Nazi Germany still looms large. On the one hand, they believe that they are an all powerful, all moralistic, force for good in the world. On the other hand, reality hovers over everything, and it's impossible for them to escape the fact that they are a country based on lies, fakery, self-deception, and hatred.
    Has anyone seen the movie 'Dogville'? I think it sums up a large percentage of Americans brilliantly. All this bile and hatred we see being spouted on this thread against 'the other', the 'foreign' person, the 'immigrant', stems from a, not insignificant, insecurity, and immaturity.
    It reminds me of my fellow classmates at primary school. I think it will take another 100 years at least for America to grow up. Either that or an all engulfing war, or ecological disaster.
    It really is a shame. A country with so much potential, subjected to, and so accepting of, so much skewered, one-eyed, shit, from so few racist money Nazis.
    George Washington and Walt Whitman will be puking in their graves.


    :eek:

    While I agree that the issue is not illegal immigrants, but murdering rapists, and the issue gets 'muddied' with agenda when the 'illegal immigrant' card is played, I have to say I found your above post a bit harsh and an over-generalization. 'The American People' is a vastly diverse group. I am an American, so this means I am one of those 'emotional, easily manipulated, hateful bunch of knee jerk bumpkins', by your definition.

    Now, if you would have narrowed the scope to include only the current administration, then I would have agreed with you 100%. ;):D
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
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    baraka wrote:
    :eek:

    While I agree that the issue is not illegal immigrants, but murdering rapists, and the issue gets 'muddied' with agenda when the 'illegal immigrant' card is played, I have to say I found your above post a bit harsh and an over-generalization. 'The American People' is a vastly diverse group. I am an American, so this means I am one of those 'emotional, easily manipulated, hateful bunch of knee jerk bumpkins', by your definition.

    Now, if you would have narrowed the scope to include only the current administration, then I would have agreed with you 100%. ;):D

    Well, you're an angel.
    I think he is speaking of America, the organism.

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  • Posts: 8,066
    Boy that got ugly real fast. Almost reminds me of the good ole days when the train first started rolling. Glad to see that people can apologize and be big about things.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    Well, you're an angel.
    I think he is speaking of America, the organism.

    Well thanks, gue. ;) I totally dig Byrnzie and I understand his frustrations, I just wanted to make a clear separation between the American government and the American people. This is not to say there are not Americans who fit Byrnzie's description. Just trying to be objective..........
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein

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