Illegal Aliens Murder 15 year old girl

JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
Wednesday Aug 15, 2007

Court documents are shedding more light on the rape and murder of Dani Countryman, a 15 year old American girl from Texas, who was murdered in an apartment in Milwaukee, Oregon on July 28. Authorities have charged two illegal alien cousins with aggravated murder.

Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier Arellano-Gamboa, 23 have admitted to being in the US illegally, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Rivera Gamboa was issued an Oregon ID card and avoided deportation even though he has been arrested for drunk driving four times since 2000!

Rivera has admitted to placing his foot with force down on Countryman's neck, while his cousin Gilberto struggled with her during the rape. Authorities have matched a bloody shoe print on the body to Rivera's shoe.

"Dani Countryman is dead because our government failed to secure our borders and enforce our existing immigration laws," says William Gheen of ALIPAC. "The suspects in this case were shown, by our state and federal governments, that they could break many American laws without any serious penalties. Hell, the state of Oregon even aided them by giving them an ID! It is no wonder that many illegal aliens escalate their crimes into the realms of rape and murder. How many more Americans must suffer or die before our nation takes action"?


On the date of this release, this story has been confined to the New Media of talk radio and the Internet, with only newspapers in the states of Oregon and Texas reporting. We believe that the Associated Press has confined the story to those two states. This information can be verified by doing Google News searches, which reveal the quarantine of the story. No mention of the story exists at all on Reuters. No major networks have picked up this case yet.

ALIPAC volunteers across America are being asked to forward this story to break through the Associated Press quarantine on this story, as it is clearly of national interest, considering the high profile case of the execution style murders by illegal aliens in Newark, NJ. All help getting this preventable and horrific story of national interest out to the public is appreciated.

Dani Countryman is dead due to the immigration policy failures in the US.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I think that it's a terrible story, but because it was a murder, not because they were illegals.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    To turn the death of this girl into a political debate over immigration is pretty pathetic.

    This girl was killed by a couple shithead guys who just happened to be in this country illegally. Had this girl been in a building on fire and two illegals ran in and saved her, would that shape your opinion of illegals? Would illegals be okay then?

    Don't shape your opinion just because of these two scumbags. It makes you sound like BillO
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/08/15/pandhandling-stabbing.html

    Three of four suspects charged in the stabbing death of a St. Catharines man in Toronto entered Canada illegally from the U.S., where at least one is wanted on an outstanding warrant, police alleged Wednesday.

    Two women and two men are currently facing charges of aggravated assault in the death of Ross Hammond.

    Hammond, 32, died early Saturday. He was stabbed multiple times early Thursday after he and his friend got involved in a heated exchange with four people on Queen Street near Niagara Street.

    Investigators will take their time to gather evidence and present it to Crown attorneys, who will then decide whether to upgrade the charges, Toronto police Det.-Sgt. Gary Giroux said.

    It is highly unlikely that the three used passports to enter Canada, he added.

    "They're here illegally and they're facing charges in Canada, so there is no kind of rush-rush-rush to lay murder charges," Giroux told CBC News. "There's a lot that goes into it and there's a lot of interviews to be done."

    Two of the accused, Jeremy Woolley and Douglas Fresh, made a brief court appearance Wednesday, dressed in orange prison fatigues, before being taken back into custody.

    Giroux said there is an outstanding warrant for Woolley in California, but did not give more details. He added he is confident the three will face the Canadian charges before any possibility of deportation.

    Meanwhile, the Globe and Mail reported Wednesday that Sarah McDermit, one of the two women charged in connection with Hammond's death, has an extensive criminal record in California under the name of Faith Watts.

    McDermit and Nicole Kish appeared briefly in court on Tuesday.

    Hammond's death has sparked debate over whether the city should follow other Canadian cities and adopt a zero-tolerance approach to panhandlers, a fixture on Toronto's streets.

    In 1999, the province passed the Safe Streets Act, which prohibits soliciting money in an "aggressive manner."
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  • JamMastaE wrote:
    Dani Countryman is dead due to the immigration policy failures in the US.

    No, Dani Countryman is dead due to the fact that a couple of sick twisted individuals killed her.

    I don't know anything about her, but the fact that her death is being broadcasts around the internet as political tool is sick.
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  • cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    Don't shape your opinion just because of these two scumbags. It makes you sound like BillO

    No, it doesn't. The fact is it's sad and pathetic that a person here illegally (I don't care from what country) can committ multiple crimes, and still not be deported. Bet they're wishing they were deported now.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    No, Dani Countryman is dead due to the fact that a couple of sick twisted individuals killed her.

    I don't know anything about her, but the fact that her death is being broadcasts around the internet as political tool is sick.

    the fact that these guys are here ILLEGALLY is relevant. obviously the point being, they shouldnt be here in the first place, had america enforced proper immigration laws.

    and I am all for a guest worker program and letting immigrants come here to work and live. but there has to be a set of rules that should be followed regarding immigration.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    To turn the death of this girl into a political debate over immigration is pretty pathetic.

    This girl was killed by a couple shithead guys who just happened to be in this country illegally. Had this girl been in a building on fire and two illegals ran in and saved her, would that shape your opinion of illegals? Would illegals be okay then?

    Don't shape your opinion just because of these two scumbags. It makes you sound like BillO

    agreed
  • Crime among the illegal immigrant community is significantly higher than in the rest of America.

    "Approximately 27 percent of all prisoners in Federal custody are criminal aliens. The majority (63 percent) are citizens of Mexico. Other major nationalities include Columbia and the Dominican Republic (7 percent each); Jamaica 4 percent; Cuba 3 percent; El Salvador 2 percent; and Honduras, Haiti, and Guatemala (1 percent each)."

    Why are we not deporting these bastards? Nope, gotta be politically correct and let them rape and murder our daughters. That's leftist justice for you.
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  • Crime among the illegal immigrant community is significantly higher than in the rest of America.

    "Approximately 27 percent of all prisoners in Federal custody are criminal aliens. The majority (63 percent) are citizens of Mexico. Other major nationalities include Columbia and the Dominican Republic (7 percent each); Jamaica 4 percent; Cuba 3 percent; El Salvador 2 percent; and Honduras, Haiti, and Guatemala (1 percent each)."

    Why are we not deporting these bastards? Nope, gotta be politically correct and let them rape and murder our daughters. That's leftist justice for you.


    broad brush, dude.

    "Crime" well I would agree, considering that being in this country without the proper paperwork is a crime...other than that tactical loophole your statements are really off base.

    oh, and the illegal alien hiding behind your bushes is actually trimming them, not waiting for your daughter to walk by, doofus.
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  • oh, and the illegal alien hiding behind your bushes is actually trimming them, not waiting for your daughter to walk by, doofus.

    Tell that to the parents of the girl who got raped and murdered.

    Stop talking bullshit and offer some facts - otherwise, don't say anything. Illegal aliens have a higher crime rate than everyone else.

    Kick their asses out of here.
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  • cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    "Crime" well I would agree, considering that being in this country without the proper paperwork is a crime...

    An immigrant who is here illegally has not committed a criminal offense, only a civil offense. This is why they are not 'criminals'.
  • cc10106 wrote:
    An immigrant who is here illegally has not committed a criminal offense, only a civil offense.

    False. They can be charged by the government for their crime. A civil offense can only be brought up in civil court where damages can be paid, but no prison time or other penalty.
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  • Tell that to the parents of the girl who got raped and murdered.

    Stop talking bullshit and offer some facts - otherwise, don't say anything. Illegal aliens have a higher crime rate than everyone else.

    Kick their asses out of here.

    maybe I should attempt to badger someone when they disagree with their statement...oh, and hyperbole over ONE instance of a girl getting brutally raped and murdered...clearly that should indicate that there is an IMMIGRATION problem in this country. Yes. lovely logical leaps...*I pronounce you "froggy" for your ability to jump about within separate topics.*


    by the way...unless you are a Native American, your ass should be kicked out as well...(MY WHAT A LOOOONG BOAT RIDE) :cool:
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    maybe I should attempt to badger someone when they disagree with their statement...oh, and hyperbole over ONE instance of a girl getting brutally raped and murdered...clearly that should indicate that there is an IMMIGRATION problem in this country. Yes. lovely logical leaps...*I pronounce you "froggy" for your ability to jump about within separate topics.*


    by the way...unless you are a Native American, your ass should be kicked out as well...(MY WHAT A LOOOONG BOAT RIDE) :cool:

    he clearly showed statistics.

    nice Indian comment btw :rolleyes:
  • cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    False. They can be charged by the government for their crime. A civil offense can only be brought up in civil court where damages can be paid, but no prison time or other penalty.

    Really??? I had no clue what a civil offense is, or how or what court it is pursued in. Thanks for clearing that up.
    Trespassing into this country IS a civil offense, not a criminal offense. That was my point. Whether they can be charged by the feds later or not is beside the point.

    You really have no place to tell people to 'stop talking', whether you agree with them or not. Lighten up.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    he clearly showed statistics.

    nice Indian comment btw :rolleyes:


    his stats showed WHERE the immigrants that are incarcerated were from. That is just cutting the slice of pie into sections based on location...has nothing to do with TYPE of crime...and nothing to do with type of crime compared to incarcerated naturalized, or birth Americans. THAT would be statistics that are shown. otherwise I could list numbers of many erroneous facts that do nothing to this debate...


    which by the way I am now somewhat tired of...wont change my mind prolly wont change yours...and I have work to do.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    his stats showed WHERE the immigrants that are incarcerated were from. That is just cutting the slice of pie into sections based on location...has nothing to do with TYPE of crime...and nothing to do with type of crime compared to incarcerated naturalized, or birth Americans. THAT would be statistics that are shown. otherwise I could list numbers of many erroneous facts that do nothing to this debate...


    which by the way I am now somewhat tired of...wont change my mind prolly wont change yours...and I have work to do.

    i'm in the middle on this issue. but do your thing.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    No, Dani Countryman is dead due to the fact that a couple of sick twisted individuals killed her.

    I don't know anything about her, but the fact that her death is being broadcasts around the internet as political tool is sick.


    i agree with this...
  • by the way...unless you are a Native American, your ass should be kicked out as well...(MY WHAT A LOOOONG BOAT RIDE) :cool:

    The Native Americans were right in violently opposing illegal immigration because look what happened to them.

    You're just proving my point that illegal immigration should be dealt with severely. Good for you, lib.
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  • Tell that to the parents of the girl who got raped and murdered.

    Stop talking bullshit and offer some facts - otherwise, don't say anything. Illegal aliens have a higher crime rate than everyone else.

    Kick their asses out of here.


    Statistics can show anything that you want them to, but I came across this information:

    http://www.ailf.org/ipc/special_report/sr_022107.pdf
    *Even as the undocumented population has doubled to 12 million since 1994, the violent crime rate in the United States has declined 34.2 percent and the property crime rate has fallen 26.4 percent.

    *Immigrants Have Lower Incarceration Rates than Natives - Among men age 18-39 (who comprise the vast majority of the prison population), the 3.5 percent incarceration rate of the native-born in 2000 was 5 times higher than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of the foreign-born.

    *The foreign-born incarceration rate in 2000 was nearly two-and-a-half times less than the 1.7 percent rate for native-born non-Hispanic white men and almost 17 times less than the 11.6 percent rate for native-born black men.

    *Foreign-born Mexicans had an incarceration rate of only 0.7 percent in 2000—more than 8 times lower than the 5.9 percent rate of native-born males of Mexican descent. Foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men had an incarceration rate of 0.5 percent, compared to 3.0 percent of native-born males of Salvadoran and Guatemalan descent.

    Granted, these stats cover all immigrants, but at least according to this data, hispanic immigrants (that is of course all we care about when talking about immigration these days) in general have much lower crime rates than those of us born here.

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    I'm in the middle on this issue... if you commit a felony and are here illegally, then you should be deported... but if you are here illegally, but you work, pay taxes and lead a legal life, then as far as I'm concerned, you can stay.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    he clearly showed statistics.

    nice Indian comment btw :rolleyes:

    I got a statistic...

    the 'illegal immigration' issue is a 100% bullshit...

    It's something 100% solvable...

    As I've said before...make them "legal", therefore they pay into the system via taxes...and presto! chango! no more issue...

    well, one issue with remain...who to hate and blame for the ills of the US...I guess we'll still have tar-or-ists to be 'fraid of...
  • • In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

    • A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

    • The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.


    The open borders crowd wants this entire country to look like Los Angeles.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    I got a statistic...

    the 'illegal immigration' issue is a 100% bullshit...

    It's something 100% solvable...

    As I've said before...make them "legal", therefore they pay into the system via taxes...and presto! chango! no more issue...

    well, one issue with remain...who to hate and blame for the ills of the US...I guess we'll still have tar-or-ists to be 'fraid of...

    you have such a boy hitting puberty way with words. i'm sure you think its cute
  • my father came here ilegally at the age of 16.... he never killed anyone. of course, he's here legally now and has been for the last 35-40 years.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • • In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

    • A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

    • The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.


    The open borders crowd wants this entire country to look like Los Angeles.
    you epitomize everything that a liberal hates about a conservative...
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you have such a boy hitting puberty way with words. i'm sure you think its cute

    so, you agree with my point...?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    so, you agree with my point...?

    sure but its not so cut and dry. do they get criminal background checks? are they working? file citizenship papers? there has to some sort of protocol.

    we cant just stamp there hand with "US Citizen" and presto they are legal.

    personally I like bush's guest worker program. but since it bush i'm sure you wont bother discussing that.
  • cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    my father came here ilegally at the age of 16.... he never killed anyone. of course, he's here legally now and has been for the last 35-40 years.

    Good, I work with people like your father. I doubt they ever felt they had a 'right' to this or that. They EARNED what they had, and didn't ask or demand anything from anyone. I bet it makes him sick to his stomach the way certain people who've illegally immigrated here feel entitled to so much.
  • cc10106 wrote:
    Good, I work with people like your father. I doubt they ever felt they had a 'right' to this or that. They EARNED what they had, and didn't ask or demand anything from anyone. I bet it makes him sick to his stomach the way certain people who've illegally immigrated here feel entitled to so much.
    i don't care dude.... i'm just saying just cause my father was illegal it doesn't mean he killed people or broke any laws.... except of course coming here ilegally ;)

    but even still, no nation in itself has the right to take away or give you or rule what is or isn't your rights.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
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